The specifications came out yesterday and tell a different story, so if the inconsistencies are mistakes, errors or oversights (and that's what it looks like) then this post should set them straight. If they're legitimate, tell me.
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/...ifications.pdf[/b]
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Originally Posted by ArgonPlasma2000
So far, it will only come with the Alloytec 3.6 and the LS3 engine, with 306 and 396 hp, respectively.
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Actually the peak figures*/** (which might or might not be conservatively rated) of the
three currently available engine options are the following:
1) 300hp & 273ft lbs for the direct injected version of the
3.6L HFV6
2) 422hp & 408ft lbs for the
6.2L LS3 V8 (It's rival, the Challenger, is claimed to be 425hp - but is also much heavier)
3) 400hp & 395ft lbs for the
6.2L L99 V8
I want them to drop in the LS9 in either 550hp Cadillac, or 638hp ZR1 trim, because
it has been confirmed that it will be offered for sale Down Under, and 422hp just doesn't cut it down here..
..unless it's offered at less than $45,000 AUD, which is very possible for GM to do though I very much doubt they will. It will sell down here regardless of price though, and of that I am sure. It could be (and likely will be) double that and it would still sell alright.
*No, I don't like comparing cars using peak figures either, but for this purpose it's the best method we have, and the statistics are always available. It's rare that a manufacturer will give you dyno graphs of their cars.
** These aren't third party SAE certified figures as of yet, but I doubt that what you posted were - it's way too early to be seeing SAE numbers.
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Originally Posted by AP2k
Style-wise, I don't think it looks quite agressive enough to be persuasive, being that the car is so large and tall. It looks similar to the RX8 from the front, but the looks just don't cut it from a side shot.
The gauges and interior from afar look decent, although nothing to scream about.
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I'm not really the biggest fan of the interior either, but it's not horrible - and it is an American car..
..so it exceeds expectations. At least it does in photos, as for quality we'll have to see.
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Originally Posted by Argonz
I see that GM is still in love with that damn plastic, though. Jeez, can't we get some rubbery plastic instead of the hard stuff? At least I don't hurt my elbow when I rest in my Fiero.
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1) Rubbery plastic is poor. Even in the base model Commodore there's none of it - the closest thing is the actual rubber used for the non slip surfaces (i.e. that confortable but odd centre console lid).
2) Comments on using plastic in interiors is retarded. The only cars that haven't had plastic interiors, were made long before you or I were born. All Audis, BMWs, Hondas, Porsches, or whatever else you could cite have plastic interiors. It's only the
quality of the plastic that matters (and this isn't much of an issue anymore with modern GM cars, because the plastic quality has taken a dramatic step up in recent years).
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Originally Posted by Argonplasma2000whooncethoughtIwasagirlposterandhit onmelol
Performance sounds pretty good, and almost on par with the Charger SRT-8.
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Really though, it sounds a bit underpowered to me, in regards to what kind of numbers all of its brethren and competitors are running.
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Originally Posted by Argon
..I wouldn't look down much on the 3.6L since it should have VVT when it makes its way into the Camaro..
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You mean Direct Injection, right? VVT has been on the Alloytecs since the beginning.
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Originally Posted by Argon
..and GM has already got the block over the 1000 pony milestone. I really, really hope GM doesn't try to sell the Camaro with the Ecotec in it unless they are going with a twin-charge setup. Even then the car weighs too damn much.
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They've been considering it, but I agree. It's a great engine, and might even be powerful enough in TT form to pull this car, but it wouldn't suit it. I'd rather see GM fund Holden to develop another (smaller & lighter sports) platform for a Torana, and use it in that and other variants of the platform. Don't get me started on what i want to see on a Torana
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Originally Posted by AP2k
Although it is nice to see that the Alloytec and LS3 has fuel economy measures built it, I am saddened greatly that there is no focus on smaller and faster cars. In the 70s and 80s when we had fuel crises the automotive manufacturers buckled down and started producing minimalist cars. The Fiero was quite sporty for its time, got almost 40 mpg, was quite cheap to build and to buy, and had the cleanest emmisions of any American-made car in 1984. Even in the early 90's, Oldsmobile's 4-cylinder rocket was able to get nearly that much milage and had far more power than the stock Ecotecs that GM uses today.
I suspect that we won't see any neo-Metros (lol pun) until after the Volt is firmly established as either a winner or loser. There won't be any ultra-efficient cars to come from GM for another year or so because they aren't going to give the Volt a few months from the factory before there are announcements for a more efficient car, especially with consumers clamoring for milage. GM probably already have plans to make small cars to American standards, and hopefully even import smaller Opel engines with turbos slapped on them. Jeez, just give me a sporty, RWD car that has great gas milage and good performance.
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Eurgh, yeah.
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