my buddy was thinking about getting like 5 sixty mg morphine pills for 90 bucks. he was wondering first off if he is getting ripped off, and second off he has never done any opiates before and was wondering how many to take. He weighs about 150lbs....

By he you mean you.

Well that's not exactly a rip off, but i can get it a lot cheaper. Morphine is generally pretty worthless orally and nasally, and i doubt you would inject it, maybe you could take it up the ass (no joke, it has a much higher bioavail).

pretty much worthless orally??? are u serious? it has to have some rec value, it's morphine for gods sake

It's Morphine Sulfate.

You're an idiot if you pay that much for morphine.

yeah, seriously consider IVing it. Or get over the gay stigma, and inject it in your ass (without the needle, of course)

Thats a fucking outrageous price for morphines, you would be a fucking idiot for picking that up at that price. Now maybe if it was 5-60mg oxys for $90, then it would be feasible.

But in general, unless your into plugging or shooting up, morphine pretty much sucks balls. It has shit bioavaibility rates for oral/nasal. Id rather pop hydrocodone to be honest

what do i have to do to make it capable of being used with a needle or "plug" it?

dissolve it in water you stupid fucking retard! what a ridiculously stupid question.

These?

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Man, I have shit loads of these, a friend brings them back from Arizona. I had 500 about a week ago, I've sold lots of them though (nowhere near the price you paid, more like 10 dollars a piece), and I can take 1 orally and feel great. 2 would have me fucked up/puking. And I weigh about 170 with a high opiate tolerance (pretty high).

Edit: And yes, that is a rip off. But they're still good even orally. I wouldn't waste them plugging, snorting or whatever you can take 1 and be ripped. They last for 12 hours and you seem to just keep getting more fucked up as time goes on :p I made the mistake of taking 2 right off the bat and I couldn't stop puking everything up.

Yes that is exactly the ones.... Well i'm glad someone finally has a decent answer about taking them orally. I only asked about how they would be prepped to be used IV because i know some pills have fillers and shit that u don't want to be injecting. Well i'm glad that they will atleast fuck me up a little. I have little opiate experience so i might consider breaking one in half and giving it a try... maybe potentiating a bit somehow as well..

On a total side note:

is 30 bucks for four oxy (20mgs) a fair deal, or am i once again getting ripped the fuck off.

Depends on where you live I guess, but that sounds to me like a huge rip off. I certainly wouldn't pay 30 fucking dollars (more than a dollar a MG) for oxycontin.

not just one, he is giving me (4 (20mgs) for 30...... (if it was 1 dollar a mg that would be 80 bucks.)

even I know that 30 dollars for one would be a ripoff, i was just wondering if 4 is fair for that price.

That's a good price.

Yeah get those rather than those morphs.

I agree that Morphine isn't generally as good when used for recreation as other Opiates. It's excellent for pain but who cares right? People often have high hopes/expectations for morphine because it's....fucking morphine. Your best bet is definitely IV...just make sure you know what you're doing.

Morphine is a shit pain killer. And don't IV it, you're a fucking idiot. He's clearly new to opiates and you're telling him to IV it?

Morphine is a shit pain killer. And don't IV it, you're a fucking idiot. He's clearly new to opiates and you're telling him to IV it?

I said it was his best bet you fucking douche...and I told him to know what he was doing first. If he wants to just jam a needle in his arm without learning how to properly do it first then that makes him a moron. Also, I fail to see how it's a shit painkiller when I've had broken bones and used percs and Tab-10s with little result beyond just feeling happier and then used morphine and the pain was virtually gone. Ease up off my nuts kid.

I said it was his best bet you fucking douche...and I told him to know what he was doing first. If he wants to just jam a needle in his arm without learning how to properly do it first then that makes him a moron. Also, I fail to see how it's a shit painkiller when I've had broken bones and used percs and Tab-10s with little result beyond just feeling happier and then used morphine and the pain was virtually gone. Ease up off my nuts kid.

Douche?? I was unaware that this was a high school popularity contest .


You can take my advice or leave it dirtythongpuller, but then again I probably know shit

Take the 60 MG MS contin orally, 1-1.5 or 2 will light you on fire for real, AND IT WILL LAST FOR AT LEAST 12 HOURS. Those pills are fucking big, and I can't see how anyone could snort it let alone dissolve it all in the amount of water needed to IV it. I've never shot any amount of anything even half the size of it.

Snort the oxycontin. They're small, very small and the euphoria is great. If you pop an oxycontin orally they're not as strong as an MS contin is orally at all, and they take longer to kick in.

I've paid 20 for 100's before but be aware that the shit will lock your bladder down and you will be buzzing for at least 6 hours so make some time.
Also DOME it, great buzz.

Douche?? I was unaware that this was a high school popularity contest .


You can take my advice or leave it dirtythongpuller, but then again I probably know shit

Take the 60 MG MS contin orally, 1-1.5 or 2 will light you on fire for real, AND IT WILL LAST FOR AT LEAST 12 HOURS. Those pills are fucking big, and I can't see how anyone could snort it let alone dissolve it all in the amount of water needed to IV it. I've never shot any amount of anything even half the size of it.

Snort the oxycontin. They're small, very small and the euphoria is great. If you pop an oxycontin orally they're not as strong as an MS contin is orally at all, and they take longer to kick in.

Its about as orally bioavailable as my cum in your mouth.

Its about as orally bioavailable as my cum in your mouth.

I don't really give a shit about bioavailabilty or researching the best way to get high including stick something up my ass. I've got tons of these MS contins and I've been eating them for over a week straight. 2 will still make me puke. I'm also a recovering heroin addict. So please just fuck off with your scientific bullshit mumbo jumbo.

I don't really give a shit about bioavailabilty or researching the best way to get high including stick something up my ass. I've got tons of these MS contins and I've been eating them for over a week straight. 2 will still make me puke. I'm also a recovering heroin addict. So please just fuck off with your scientific bullshit mumbo jumbo.

Because the crack head said so.

I don't really give a shit about bioavailabilty or researching the best way to get high including stick something up my ass. I've got tons of these MS contins and I've been eating them for over a week straight. 2 will still make me puke. I'm also a recovering heroin addict. So please just fuck off with your scientific bullshit mumbo jumbo.

If you don't care to research the best method then you don't exactly sound like a credible source that should be handing out advice. Thanks.

If you don't care to research the best method then you don't exactly sound like a credible source that should be handing out advice. Thanks.

I'm advising him based on experience, not what I read on wiki/erowid.

I'm advising him based on experience, not what I read on wiki/erowid.

Experience that would have been more profitable if you would have researched it first.

The bioavailibility is not higher rectally. Not high enough to be worth it. Your best bet would be to take tagmet a few hours before.\

Morphine ~30% oral/rectal, insuffulated- 15-20%, Chitosan(a linear polysaccharide that helps absorb drugs better) has been shown to increase nasal bioavailability of morphine from around 10-20% to over 60%, SC-60%, protein binding 30-40%, half-life is 2-3 hours

nice job thumbing your poop shoot for nothing.

"Summary Sustained-release morphine (MST) given by the rectal route was compared with oral MST in an open randomised cross-over trial in ten patients with cancer who received stable doses of MST. No significant difference was found in the areas under the curve of the concentration-time profiles (AUC) following oral or rectal administration for parent morphine. The AUCs determine for morphine-6-glucuronide (M6G) and morphine-3-glucuronide (M3G) after oral administration were approximately twice those obtained following rectal administration. The maximal concentration achieved was lower and the time to maximal concentration was longer following rectal administration for morphine, M6G and M3G. The relative mean arrival times following rectal administration were significantly longer for morphine and M3G but not for M6G. These findings suggest slower absorption but less first-pass metabolism of MST after rectal administration. NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE was noted BETWEEN the ORAL and the RECTAL route in measurements on visual-analogue scales for pain or side effects. We recommend the rectal route as being suitable for MST administration when the ORAL ROUTE IS NO LONGER AVAILIBLE . In changing from oral to rectal administration, the same dose and dose interval may be used, but dose adjustment may be needed."
www.springerlink.com/content/v0h25846756r46v1/

The only benefit is less first pass metabolism.


Experience that would have been more profitable if you would have researched it first.

I agree. All info posted by kreig whatever should be disregarded.

Acetylate them.

Acetylate them.

He better if he's paying that goddamn much for them.

Don't you know better than asking that kinda question around here by now? You'll rarely get a straight answer.

Everyone here seems to have a "ball showing" complex when it comes to drugs. They all have a superhuman tolerance, and better hook ups than god.

"Dude, 1000 mg's of morphine?? Pssh I have to eat 10,000 mg's just to barely feel it. Most of the time it's like a million. Pussy"

And

"OMG! you're a fucking idiot if you get them for free. I get them WAAAAAYYYY cheaper than that".

Kinda like the way EVERYONE here gets the 2mg Xanax bars, the rarest form prescribed, yet EVERYONE gets THEM and not the 0.5 or 1mg pills. And they only paid 5 cents for them because "they are so worthless. I ate 10 of em and didn't feel shit man", when in reality 1 or 2 would put them on their ass.

"Dude, 1000 mg's of morphine?? Pssh I have to eat 10,000 mg's just to barely feel it. Most of the time it's like a million. Pussy"


FACT: Morphine just happens to have a really shitty oral bioavailability.


Kinda like the way EVERYONE here gets the 2mg Xanax bars, the rarest form prescribed,

And most commonly sold form, esp. on the internet.

So fuck off acolyte, and **CLOSE REGISTRATION**

Acetylate them.

I really want to try it, but don't want to risk messing up a month's worth of pills as it could leave me in a pretty bad position.

I mean I already have access to everything I need too, theoretically.

I don't really give a shit about bioavailabilty or researching the best way to get high including stick something up my ass. I've got tons of these MS contins and I've been eating them for over a week straight. 2 will still make me puke. I'm also a recovering heroin addict. So please just fuck off with your scientific bullshit mumbo jumbo.

so you switched from from herion to morphine good job

so you switched from from herion to morphine good job

Gotta start somewhere, amirite?

Gotta start somewhere, amirite?

urrite

...............

Uh, then leave? And no, not everyone has a balls showing complex when it comes to drugs around here...it's just that all of the oldsters are getting sick and tired of the new wave of retards that has splashed in and just don't care anymore. Good threads still get coherent and useful replies..it's just that they're few and far between.

Morphine is a shit pain killer.

You sir, need to read up on your pills.

I really want to try it, but don't want to risk messing up a month's worth of pills as it could leave me in a pretty bad position.

I mean I already have access to everything I need too, theoretically.
That's the great thing man, you can't fuck it up. The worst case scenario, you end up with monoactetylmorphine instead, which is still better than morphine.


I'd be more than happy to help you, catch me in IRC or something if need be.

The bioavailibility is not higher rectally. Not high enough to be worth it. Your best bet would be to take tagmet a few hours before.\

Morphine ~30% oral/rectal, insuffulated- 15-20%, Chitosan(a linear polysaccharide that helps absorb drugs better) has been shown to increase nasal bioavailability of morphine from around 10-20% to over 60%, SC-60%, protein binding 30-40%, half-life is 2-3 hours

nice job thumbing your poop shoot for nothing.

"Summary Sustained-release morphine (MST) given by the rectal route was compared with oral MST in an open randomised cross-over trial in ten patients with cancer who received stable doses of MST. No significant difference was found in the areas under the curve of the concentration-time profiles (AUC) following oral or rectal administration for parent morphine. The AUCs determine for morphine-6-glucuronide (M6G) and morphine-3-glucuronide (M3G) after oral administration were approximately twice those obtained following rectal administration. The maximal concentration achieved was lower and the time to maximal concentration was longer following rectal administration for morphine, M6G and M3G. The relative mean arrival times following rectal administration were significantly longer for morphine and M3G but not for M6G. These findings suggest slower absorption but less first-pass metabolism of MST after rectal administration. NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE was noted BETWEEN the ORAL and the RECTAL route in measurements on visual-analogue scales for pain or side effects. We recommend the rectal route as being suitable for MST administration when the ORAL ROUTE IS NOLONGER . In changing from oral to rectal administration, the same dose and dose interval may be used, but dose adjustment may be needed."
www.springerlink.com/content/v0h25846756r46v1/

The only benefit is less first pass metabolism.


This is true, unless you adjust the pH of your rectal morphine solution to between 7 and 8. A rectally administered morphine solution at this pH results in peak plasma morphine concentrations 1.5 - 2 times grater than normal rectal or oral administration. Though after the peak the concentrations are less dramatically different, rectal morphine (pH 7-8) is still significantly higher.

SOURCE: Moolenaar, F., Yska, J.P., Visser, J., & Meijer, D.K.F., (1985) Drastic Imporevent in the Rectal Absorbtion Profile of Morphine in Man. European Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, 29: 119-121