totse.com | Absinthe and Thujone

Savin_Jesus · #1 2008-07-22, 22:44

So, In america the amount of Thujone is limited in absinthe.

Does this make it less effective?

krs-93 · #2 2008-07-22, 23:20

im not 100% sure but i believe thujone is not responsible for the intoxicating effects

Darkus · #3 2008-07-22, 23:26

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im not 100% sure but i believe thujone is not responsible for the intoxicating effects

Definitely plays a role.

From wikipedia:

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Thujone acts on the GABA receptors in the brain and exhibits slight, if any, psychoactive response. In many countries the amount of thujone allowed in food or drink products is regulated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone

In the Absinthes with higher thujone content will usually give you noticeable psychoactive effects, which is why it's regulated in a lot of countries. You can just buy your own though and add it, just look up proper methods online.

Wormwood is largely responsible too.

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The leaves and flowering tops are gathered when the plant is in full bloom, and dried naturally or with artificial heat. Its active substances include silica, two bitter elements (absinthine and anabsinthine), thujone, tannic and resinous substances, malic acid, and succinic acid. Its use has been claimed to remedy indigestion and gastric pain, it acts as an antiseptic, and as a febrifuge. For medicinal use, the herb is used to make a tea for helping pregnant women during pain of labor. A dried encapsulated form of the plant is used as an anthelmintic. A wine can also be made by macerating the herb. It is also available in powder form and as a tincture. The oil of the plant can be used as a cardiac stimulant to improve blood circulation. Pure wormwood oil is very poisonous, but with proper dosage poses little or no danger. Wormwood is mostly a stomach medicine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_absinthium

consciouscowboy · #4 2008-07-22, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Darkus View Post

Definitely plays a role.

From wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone

In the Absinthes with higher thujone content will usually give you noticeable psychoactive effects, which is why it's regulated in a lot of countries. You can just buy your own though and add it, just look up proper methods online.

Wormwood is largely responsible too.

From wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_absinthium

Don't waste your time. That guy is a fucking simpleton.

Transparent · #5 2008-07-22, 23:34

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Originally Posted by Savin_Jesus View Post

So, In america the amount of Thujone is limited in absinthe.

Does this make it less effective?

I don't know much about absinthe, but I thought it was illegal in the States. Perhaps I should buy some wormwood. And a spoon.

Darkus · #6 2008-07-22, 23:35

Be very careful when making your own, wormwood can be deadly. There are plenty of guides online to give you the correct measurements and methods of making it.

Lazarus · #7 2008-07-23, 00:04

to be honest, a lot of the time the stuff is so alcoholic that people get confused as to what they're supposed to be feeling anyway... like some of the 80% or so stuff, you take a few shots of that and you're well on your way, and that + the possible placebo effect could make you "see" some green fairies.

With genuine absinthe though, yes, I believe it does make quite a big difference. There is so much crap available though, that I think you really need to know your sources to get good stuff (I'm not claiming to know much, just that most stuff out there isn't really that great).

hallucinogenic Substance · #8 2008-07-23, 00:12

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I don't know much about absinthe, but I thought it was illegal in the States. Perhaps I should buy some wormwood. And a spoon.

You can't go out and buy absinthe from a liqueur store but you can buy absinthe kits because thujone is not illegal.

Aerogone · #9 2008-07-23, 00:17

FYI the "safe" wormwood used is the north-American one.
I definitely do not advise you to try making and consuming European wormwood based alcoholic beverage.

Finally, let me lay down some wisdom, to elucidate the over all psychology of this and many other topics in BLTC.

Most of the people lured in by this type of marketing, are the same people who trip balls on Adrenochrome.
They are still the same exact sheep, just on the other side of the fence.

your pixel army · #13 2008-07-23, 02:13

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Originally Posted by Darkus View Post

Definitely plays a role.

From wikipedia: Originally Posted by Article
Thujone acts on the GABA receptors in the brain and exhibits slight, if any, psychoactive response. In many countries the amount of thujone allowed in food or drink products is regulated.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone

Isn't that completely contradictory to "definitely plays a role"?

And by the way, absinthe isn't going to make you trip, k? It is, however, going to get you royally fucked because it has an awesome taste. I've tried authentic absinthe and also the recently reintroduced American absinthe and this is how I feel.

This isn't to say that there aren't absinthes that are psychoactive. I'm sure there's plenty of recipes (past and present) that actually include undisclosed ingredients which contribute to Absinthe's stigma. However, you're not seeing things from the thujone.

Menos El Oso · #14 2008-07-23, 03:25

does anyone know the legality of buying absinthe from overseas vendors and having it shipped to the states, I am very interested in getting some Czech Absinthe with a high thujone content.

Tehstfu · #15 2008-07-23, 05:28

^ I think its ok but email the vendor to be sure
I went to an absinthe lounge and had real absinthe and it had me feeling great. Not seeing shit and not like alcohol alone.