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Old 2008-07-22, 07:05
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Would you have a problem with every humans mind being scanned & copied to a database. The computer would then use the combined knowledge to figure shit out. What exactly, I don't know. But I believe this is the only direction we humans can take. Sometime, whether its now, 100 years, 10,000 years in the future we must created something more than us. It will be done through science, not superstition, myths, religion.
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Old 2008-07-22, 07:57
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There are already computer databases with more data than any human mind can ever store, not that they can do anything exciting with it though.

Humans will never be able to replicate God's work in creating life or intelligence, it's a lose cause.
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Old 2008-07-22, 07:59
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There are already computer databases with more data than any human mind can ever store, not that they can do anything exciting with it though.

Humans will never be able to replicate God's work in creating life or intelligence, it's a lose cause.
AI should come around within the next 100 years. A AI machine with that database and ability to create would forward the human race astronomically.
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Old 2008-07-22, 21:06
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There are already computer databases with more data than any human mind can ever store, not that they can do anything exciting with it though.

Humans will never be able to replicate God's work in creating life or intelligence, it's a lose cause.
Now, by "God's work," do you mean evolution? you fucking moron.

Computers may not be capable of thinking like humans considering that humans use non-representational memory, while computers use representational memory.
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Old 2008-07-22, 21:08
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every humans mind being scanned & copied to a database.
finally!
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Old 2008-07-23, 04:12
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Might as well hook them up to machines like in the Matrix.
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Old 2008-07-23, 14:22
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Even if you could scan and copy every humans brain how would you deal with people being mostly retarded? The brains would all try to kill each other, and conflicting information would slow shit down allot (all the morons who are wrong but will fight to the death for something they half overheard in a bar), and some information is based conflicting information(IE: god exists>god loves you>pray for soul = gods fake>you reproduce>fight for you genome). Some people minds can overcome confliction and happily take in paradoxes, but other are brittle and can hold only one truth.
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Old 2008-07-24, 01:56
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Even if you could scan and copy every humans brain how would you deal with people being mostly retarded? The brains would all try to kill each other, and conflicting information would slow shit down allot (all the morons who are wrong but will fight to the death for something they half overheard in a bar),
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That is the problem. So many people have heads full of bullshit.

Why do you think a computer could sort it out?

DT
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Old 2008-07-24, 04:53
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AI should come around within the next 100 years. A AI machine with that database and ability to create would forward the human race astronomically.
until they become self-aware...
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Old 2008-07-24, 12:13
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until they become self-aware...
How could AI not be self-aware.

The computers are just symbol manipulating machines. They manipulate the symbols according to programs. People have to decide upon and program the manipulations. Once that is done computers can do it faster than people but they still don't understand the symbols.

Do the computers care whether they win or lose a chess game?

We are just making faster von Neumann machines. AI is fantasy.

DT
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Old 2008-07-25, 15:49
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How could AI not be self-aware.

The computers are just symbol manipulating machines. They manipulate the symbols according to programs. People have to decide upon and program the manipulations. Once that is done computers can do it faster than people but they still don't understand the symbols.

Do the computers care whether they win or lose a chess game?

We are just making faster von Neumann machines. AI is fantasy.

DT

Great analogy.

AI is stupid, haven't you ever seen I robot or better yet 2001: A Space Odyssey?

AI causes some major headaches, then Will Smith or Dave Bowman stop it.
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Old 2008-07-25, 18:04
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Single cell organism---->Evolution----->Humans----->Create Robots------>The humans are dead
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Old 2008-07-25, 19:18
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this is more realistic

http://www.thetripods.org/media/images/fan/capreplica.jpg
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Old 2008-07-28, 22:58
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Now, by "God's work," do you mean evolution? you fucking moron.

Computers may not be capable of thinking like humans considering that humans use non-representational memory, while computers use representational memory.

The human brain is nothing more than an incredibly complex machine that receives sensory information from several inputs, uses it in conjunction with stored information, processes it according to a ridiculous amount of interrelated rules learnt over a lifetime and outputs the results in a myriad of ways, both internal and external. The principle is that of a computer.

If an exact replica of a human brain could be built (and there's no reason it couldn't, given sufficient miniaturisation; we know the structure and we know the mechanisms) that functioned in the exact same way as our brains and was given twenty years of experience with the world, what possible argument could you have for that replica not being sentient?
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Old 2008-07-29, 12:44
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What are you doing, Dave?
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Old 2008-07-30, 14:35
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What are you doing, Dave?


Hey! you wouldnt like it if i were staring at YOU masturbate!
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Old 2008-07-30, 16:57
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Hey! you wouldnt like it if i were staring at YOU masturbate!

Not true.
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