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2008-07-21, 22:44
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IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
I was wondering if it was possible to IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids. I would filter it many times it is 150g of leaf made into the most pure tincture. Sherm always talked about it but I was wondering if it could be done safely. I have 1/2cc rigs I would dilute with water to make a safe dose.
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2008-07-21, 22:47
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
You are too scared to use a needle any way you little bitch. Stop spamming.
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# 3

2008-07-21, 23:09
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
I would do it if I knew a safe way to do it. Im not scared
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2008-07-21, 23:11
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
I would do it if I knew a safe way to do it. Im not scared
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You couldn't even bang pharms, which are CLEAN, what makes you think you have the balls to bang something some random jackass sent you in the mail?
You have no balls.
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2008-07-21, 23:16
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
You couldn't even bang pharms, which are CLEAN, what makes you think you have the balls to bang something some random jackass sent you in the mail?
You have no balls.
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It doesn't take balls to IV something that some random jackass mailed to him. He'd just have to be stupid.
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# 6

2008-07-21, 23:17
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
You couldn't even bang pharms, which are CLEAN, what makes you think you have the balls to bang something some random jackass sent you in the mail?
You have no balls.
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Its not a random jackass its a company that makes the shit.
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2008-07-21, 23:27
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Source wizard!!!!!!!
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# 8

2008-07-21, 23:28
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
You know, kratom is not recreational at high doses, and makes you sick the more you take. At a certain sweet spot, the toxic effects are outweighed by the recreational side-effects. Then as you continue to take up the dose, the toxic effects become more prominent and out weight these recreation effects.
Just like with many other drugs such as: caffeine and nicotine. (about as smart IV'ing the chemicals mentioned above, compared to what you claim)
They are pleasurable, and some more pleasurable then others, but getting high, particularly if you are looking for something as an opiate substitute.... IS NOT something that is possible with the plant in question.
Why dont you fucking reserch and learn about what you are putting into your body.
It is indeed possible to try out iv administration of a full spectrum, or select alkaloid administration, but you sir are just a fucking idiot.
Stupidity is acceptable in the name of science (so to say), but you are too stupid and are only making this claim in a pathetic attempt for some attention.
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2008-07-21, 23:31
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by Aerogone
but you sir are just a fucking idiot.
Stupidity is acceptable in the name of science (so to say), but you are too stupid and are only making this claim in a pathetic attempt for some attention.
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^^^
Common knowledge.
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# 10

2008-07-21, 23:31
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
I'm sure it would be pretty active oral.
You should just put some under your tongue and try it out.
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#11
 2008-07-21, 23:32
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Its not a random jackass its a company that makes the shit.
Because speciosa.com, has your best interest in mind.
Particularly, the stickers on their products that reed: "not for human consumption" Clearly mean that the stuff must be IV'ed and not administered via an oral route.
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# 12

2008-07-22, 00:36
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
I was wondering if it was possible to IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids. I would filter it many times it is 150g of leaf made into the most pure tincture. Sherm always talked about it but I was wondering if it could be done safely. I have 1/2cc rigs I would dilute with water to make a safe dose.
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Why would you want to shoot something that not only is not clear but yellowish liquid in appearance but also almost def. has both an organic odor as well as organic particles in a alcohol+whoknowswhatkind of solvent? Thats just asking for something bed to happen to you. Besides, you really think you could get that high off of it? You think it would feel like, what, a shot of oxy or heroin, a STRONG opiate rush? I'm sure someone in Thailand (Kratom's "nation of origin") has already thought of and tried something like this, at least you could try to look up something related to that. But I doubt youd do it anyway even if you found out it was "supposedly" safe and could supposedly get you high...
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# 13

2008-07-22, 02:34
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Well It is being done regardless tomarrow night In the name of science.
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Originally Posted by seanjohno69
Why would you want to shoot something that not only is not clear but yellowish liquid in appearance but also almost def. has both an organic odor as well as organic particles in a alcohol+whoknowswhatkind of solvent? Thats just asking for something bed to happen to you. Besides, you really think you could get that high off of it? You think it would feel like, what, a shot of oxy or heroin, a STRONG opiate rush? I'm sure someone in Thailand (Kratom's "nation of origin") has already thought of and tried something like this, at least you could try to look up something related to that. But I doubt youd do it anyway even if you found out it was "supposedly" safe and could supposedly get you high...
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 2008-07-22, 04:21
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
He's "clean" off opes, but trying to bang kratom? Good job hoppin.
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#15
 2008-07-22, 07:37
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Because speciosa.com, has your best interest in mind.
Particularly, the stickers on their products that reed: "not for human consumption" Clearly mean that the stuff must be IV'ed and not administered via an oral route.
I like you. I don't know if you are a multi, or an actual new user, but yeah, stick around.
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#16
 2008-07-22, 16:32
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
I like you. I don't know if you are a multi, or an actual new user, but yeah, stick around.
I have a feeling he is new. It is refreshing. I even enjoyed his spelling error of "reed". Makes it easier for h0ppin to sound it out.
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#17
 2008-07-22, 17:17
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
I even enjoyed his spelling error of "reed". Makes it easier for h0ppin to sound it out.
Hey buddy, fuck you!
I made that spelling error by accident, and flame me if you must, but please don't fucking bend over backwards for me.
I know, that might sound harsh, but i am not about to pick on h0ppin alone. You sir, as far as i have seen, are no less of an idiot then h0ppin himself.
And i don't need to go further then the front page to support the above statement.
https://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2144578
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#18
 2008-07-22, 17:28
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Hey buddy, fuck you!
I made that spelling error by accident, and flame me if you must, but please don't fucking bend over backwards for me.
I know, that might sound harsh, but i am not about to pick on h0ppin alone. You sir, as far as i have seen, are no less of an idiot then h0ppin himself.
And i don't need to go further then the front page to support the above statement.
https://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2144578
You obviously misunderstood my post. You also made a mistake with that link, but I will assume it was my best blunt wrap thread. You are inexperienced, so I will let your naive reaction from that thread slide. The quality of my threads coincide with the current state of bltc.
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#19
 2008-07-22, 17:55
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
You obviously misunderstood my post. You also made a mistake with that link, but I will assume it was my best blunt wrap thread. You are inexperienced, so I will let your naive reaction from that thread slide. The quality of my threads coincide with the current state of bltc.
Aerogone > Cowboy
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#20
 2008-07-23, 00:26
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Why must junkies seek to IV every drug they encounter?
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 2008-07-23, 00:37
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by Piles Of Crack
Why must junkies seek to IV every drug they encounter?
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Because we are willing to do almost anything that remotely promises a high.
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#22
 2008-07-23, 01:55
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
uh, full spectrum poppy alkaloids?
dude, theres gonna be some codeine in there, and things are gonna get ugly.
POC is right, why must junkies try to boot every damn thing under the sun, and understand that theres just a few things worth the fucking risk..
and SN is right as well, if your not gonna boot a pill, what the fuck makes you think your gonna boot this shit?
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#23
 2008-07-23, 14:57
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by vilbe
uh, full spectrum poppy alkaloids?
dude, theres gonna be some codeine in there, and things are gonna get ugly.
POC is right, why must junkies try to boot every damn thing under the sun, and understand that theres just a few things worth the fucking risk..
and SN is right as well, if your not gonna boot a pill, what the fuck makes you think your gonna boot this shit?
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Not poppy, kratom. He wants to inject some random solution of so called "kratom alkaloids". Who the fuck knows if that's what he actually has though.
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# 24

2008-07-23, 20:40
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
I was wondering if it was possible to IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture
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The full spectrum of alkaloids FROM WHAT FUCKING ANIMAL, PLANT, FUNGUS, OR BACTERIUM, DAMN YOU!?!?!?!?!?
Anyways... yes, it is possible to IV the alkaloids from anything. If it's pufferfish, you will die. If it's pavaper somniferum, whether or not you will die depends on how much you inject. Etc.
'n if you inject alcohol, you will risk poisoning from whatever sort of alcohol this is.
I will facepalm repeatedly now.
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2008-07-24, 02:56
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Twenty dollars says this is setup for a fake death thread so h0ppin will finally get some sort of sympathy on this board.
However he will come back under another username and it will be obvious who it is...
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# 26

2008-07-24, 03:07
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Yes do it. Completely safe and I have done it for the past couple months.
Remember to rotate injection sites!
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2008-07-24, 05:36
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by Puck
Twenty dollars says this is setup for a fake death thread so h0ppin will finally get some sort of sympathy on this board.
However he will come back under another username and it will be obvious who it is...
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His new one is Loriset.
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# 28

2008-07-24, 08:52
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
He also goes by peeka.
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# 29

2008-07-24, 16:06
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
I was wondering if it was possible to IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids. I would filter it many times it is 150g of leaf made into the most pure tincture. Sherm always talked about it but I was wondering if it could be done safely. I have 1/2cc rigs I would dilute with water to make a safe dose.
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Didn't you scam a bunch of people on RTS?
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#30
 2008-07-24, 16:08
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
He also goes by peeka.
I also hear he goes by Lucy, but only in the bedroom.
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#31
 2008-07-24, 17:12
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
lol i dont know why hoppin even tries posting under his current handle still... nobody is going to help his bitch ass
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#32
 2008-07-25, 01:44
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
here's some food for though, junkies take not. if something works, the grass isn't always brighter over there. so your kratom gets you high orally, doesn't mean its gonna be a times 10 in the arm, ya dig?
jesus you woulda thought that scene in requerium for a dream would scare people off sticking unknowns into themselves..
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#33
 2008-07-25, 03:17
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by vilbe
here's some food for though, junkies take not. if something works, the grass isn't always brighter over there. so your kratom gets you high orally, doesn't mean its gonna be a times 10 in the arm, ya dig?
jesus you woulda thought that scene in requerium for a dream would scare people off sticking unknowns into themselves..
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But that's just a movie. That could never happen to hoppin right? RIGHT? We can only hope.
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2008-07-25, 06:28
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by consciouscowboy
His new one is Loriset.
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I promise you sir, that, this is not hoppin, greg, or whatever he calls himself. please dont mistake me for him, I am just the new guy, learning from my mistakes,
but fuck i dont care if u believe me
Last edited by Lori Set; 2008-07-25 at 06:29.
Reason: typo
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# 35

2008-07-25, 06:39
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
.......goddamnit
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 2008-07-25, 07:05
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
I promise you sir, that, this is not hoppin, greg, or whatever he calls himself. please dont mistake me for him, I am just the new guy, learning from my mistakes,
but fuck i dont care if u believe me
This is me
Stop lying me
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#37
 2008-07-25, 12:49
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Not him, yet knows his name. Hoppin, you are one of the most retarded motherfuckers I've ever seen.
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 2008-07-25, 15:26
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Not him, yet knows his name. Hoppin, you are one of the most retarded motherfuckers I've ever seen.
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come on stupid noob, i know u r smart enough, even you could see that we have different IPs, in IRC.
Now I am gonna have this hangin over my head well... forever
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#39
 2008-07-25, 15:31
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
come on stupid noob, i know u r smart enough, even you could see that we have different IPs, in IRC.
Now I am gonna have this hangin over my head well... forever
Better scratch this name and make a new one then.
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 2008-07-25, 17:23
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Better scratch this name and make a new one then.
yup fucking hoppinfaggot
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 2008-07-25, 18:08
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
come on stupid noob, i know u r smart enough, even you could see that we have different IPs, in IRC.
Now I am gonna have this hangin over my head well... forever
Proxy, h0ppin has like 939384884 of them.
Lol, it only took h0ppin 30 minutes to post after loriset (himself).
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#42
 2008-07-26, 02:47
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Proxy, h0ppin has like 939384884 of them.
Lol, it only took h0ppin 30 minutes to post after loriset (himself).
Goddammit
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 2008-07-26, 02:56
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Goddammit
So you gonna shoot this shit or what?
Fuckin pussy mutherfucker course youre too much of a wimp to shoot up.
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 2008-07-26, 03:08
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Not to hijack this thread but anyone got advice on booting 5 Hour Energy?
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2008-07-26, 03:16
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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didn't you scam a bunch of people on rts?
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2008-07-26, 03:17
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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His new one is Loriset.
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I can personally vouch that loriset is not H0ppin.
It is only coincidence they are both located in flordia and are chefs.
The_Messiah
P.S We are even now Loriset......(ha, you clown) 
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#47
 2008-07-26, 03:51
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
I can personally vouch that loriset is not H0ppin.
It is only coincidence they are both located in flordia and are chefs.
The_Messiah
P.S We are even now Loriset......(ha, you clown) ;)
thank you,
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# 48

2008-07-26, 04:43
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
h0ppin has no friends
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#49
 2008-07-26, 04:48
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
I couldn't give a fuck if hoppin shoots that shit; I just want to know: is the tincture any good? I've had bad luck with kratom tinctures in the past (store bought and personal preparation) and would love the convenience that the 150 mg alkaloid/2 mL alcohol solution offers, but that dubious ratio warrants skepticism.
20-30 mg of full spectrum alkaloids should get one loaded via any MOA; with 20-30 drops per milli, that should break down to 3-4 milligrams per drop and no more than ten drops sublingually to produce a desirable intoxication for a familiar user with little tolerance.
I would pay for some of that.
So, hoppin, whatever you do (and shooting a crude plant extract should be the last among your options) let us know how it is.
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 2008-07-26, 04:53
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
^ tincture is cool, but it's just as convenient to cap the powder and gulp about 10 or 15 of them. plus money is saved.
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# 51

2008-07-26, 05:08
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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h0ppin has no friends
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h0ppin is a BITCH
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# 52

2008-07-26, 07:15
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
He pussied out didnt he?
Or maybe... just maybe he killed himself to better human kind
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#53
 2008-07-26, 07:27
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
This thread made me facepalm.
Why must h0ppin inject random things into his arm? For fucks sake.
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#54
 2008-07-26, 21:36
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
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Originally Posted by Chemical Eudaemonia
^ tincture is cool, but it's just as convenient to cap the powder and gulp about 10 or 15 of them. plus money is saved.
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Yeah that's true, but gobbling handfuls of gelcaps gets old and I like the novelty of the tincture. Plus, it's easier to titrate dose because it comes on so fast.
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#55
 2008-07-27, 01:04
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
I can personally vouch that loriset is not H0ppin.
It is only coincidence they are both located in flordia and are chefs.
The_Messiah
P.S We are even now Loriset......(ha, you clown) ;)
Who are you? Your voucher doesn't mean shit. For all I know you are h0ppin.
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#56
 2008-07-27, 02:46
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Who are you? Your voucher doesn't mean shit. For all I know you are h0ppin.
Damn Cought Again...First Loriset now S_W_I_M
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#57
 2008-07-27, 05:30
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Damn Cought Again...First Loriset now S_W_I_M
you're a bitch!
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#58
 2008-07-27, 14:56
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Who are you? Your voucher doesn't mean shit. For all I know you are h0ppin.
Fuck you Brokeback cowboy, im the one that keeps auryn from perma banning your ass in #chemphoria
notice the signature
-The_Messiah
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#59
 2008-07-27, 16:09
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Re: IV Full Spectrum Alkaloid Tincture - 150 mg alkaloids
Fuck you Brokeback cowboy, im the one that keeps auryn from perma banning your ass in #chemphoria
notice the signature
-The_Messiah
oh haha
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