http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c


Obviously McCain is a sleazy lying sack of shit with anger problems. That's just one video, one example, youtube has a lot more videos exposing McCain. Watch the rest if you're interested.


Son of a top admiral, he got special treatment, he was never actually tortured. He's a traitor. If you try to tell me any of that was taken out of context then you're an idiot.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g
Bush has fucked up the economy and McCain supports most of Bush's political positions, so he'll fuck it up even further.


All the bad things anyone could say about McCain are almost always true, these videos are evidence, you can google for more evidence. What bad things do people say about Obama? That he flip flops? Look at McCain, idiot. That he said "typical white person"? LOL. He wasn't saying his grandmother is racist, he was making a very good point, she is a typical white person. Ever watched UFC? Did you see when Rampage beat Liddell and the crowd was booing him? 99% of that crowd was caucasian and when Rampage looked into the camera and said "WHAT?!" with an angry face, they all got quiet. White people do typically fear black people. It's very common for them to react that way.


And as Ron Paul said, it isn't unreasonable to fear them. They're angry and disadvantaged and they blame white people for their problems. At the same time, a lot of black people fear white people and feel uneasy around them, with good reasons.

It's an issue people don't want to talk about. Obama addressed it..



Obama would be a better military commander, and it's sad that opinion polls suggest americans think McCain would be a better commander. It's sad that americans are so ignorant and lazy and pathetic. They're just going to keep letting republicans fuck them in the ass. I'm going to laugh hard if McCain is elected, because this time you idiots will really understand you were wrong.


And McCain divorcing his wife because she was disfigured? WTF? What a sleazy piece of shit. Funny that his new wife is a BEER HEIRESS. Mindless republican drones are always bitching about how Obama is going to raise taxes. You idiots could not be more wrong. LOL. McCain is going to fuck this country up so bad if he's elected.

Is the drug war doing a lot of good for lowering taxes?


Obama would end DEA raids on medical cannabis facilities, McCain would just make the whole problem even worse...


It'd be nice if someone would show these videos to all the red states, hopefully those fucking retards would be able to pay attention.

oh wow, he said with no body armor and he had on a bullet proof vest. My friend this isn't nearly as bad as hillary clinton's snipers comment. It's a humvee and up armored and unarmored are very close words, but he still isn't in an MRAP, which would have made what McCain said a total lie. WELL is Al Quieda not a group of extremists? from the Wahhib sect? He's human, he makes mistakes, I'd bet Obama is the same way, he just doesn't show it because he choreographs his events to a stricter degree. Well McCain wasn't the president, he said "if I was the president", it's hypothetical.
The education thing is up to his vice president, I'd say that based on Obama's decision he can only make a lock tight agreement, and I'd doubt he knows much about the economy either. Maybe McCain is lying but they're the little lies we can tolerate, not big ones about snipers or about being a Muslim (he went to a christian church, either he can't choose, he converted or he's one or the other -> he should stop being so god damned ambiguous).
Well he said you could argue that. the word could denotes that he's unsure on the topic. it's a grammar and word choice error or you're saying that we shouldn't elect real people to the presidency. Tax policy is always a very hard topic, with mccain's experience in politics of course he will flip flop over time (something that when you're a senator for more than 3/4 of a term before running for president happens all the time -> look at John Kerry).
NOW on to the second video: it reminds me of the calls pollsters made for Bush in McCain's 2000 campaign. Another thing it reminds me of is Swiftboat veterans against John Kerry. Wow, I bet you called them immoral liars, and a host of other words. But when that type of campaign is for a candidate you like, you call it fact. And besides, McCain was a POW in vietnam, he'd have an idea of people being left behind, maybe not a perfect one, but better than that of Barack Obama.
that he's arrogant enough to think that after barely a full senate term, he thinks he could run for president without a single major policy that he penned by himself. He's no John F. Kennedy, not by far, and I think making himself up to be the next JFK (even with his own brandenburg gate speech), he's by far the most arrogant snob I've heard of. At least with McCain's experience he has a valid excuse.
well by saying something and drawing people's attention to it are McCain and Ron Paul not addressing it? maybe they feel that black racial issues aren't a good issue to deal with when you're a white man, so that's all they feel they can do. Are you white? I doubt you wouldn't feel even the least bit awkward talking about the issues of other races, and if you say no you're a liar, it's genetically hardwired into people.
he stayed on good terms with her and even helps pay her medical bills. I don't see any animosity that would be common in a messy divorce over physique.
how is it sad that the American public believes that a man who spent most of his adult life in the Navy and even went through the Naval academy (like his family had been doing long before him), would be a lesser military commander than someone with no military experience and a less than colorful senate term. In fact that makes a lot more sense, I don't even think the best Harvard Law review and war analogy could make up for your misconception.
Yeah Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Richard Nixon (with the exception of Watergate), Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush (president #41) have really went and fucked the nation in the ass, that's why people keep voting for them and that's why there wasn't a democrat re elect from Harry Truman's presidency to Bill Clinton's right. I mean clearly if they were fucking the nation as you said, people would have caught on.....
Obama wouldn't oppose the war on drugs, he's too concerned with getting the vote of families, especially black inner city families who are hurt by the drug problem, as opposed to suburban white kids who believe that drugs don't hurt anyone. Do you know what kind of people deal in the drug trade -> the Russian Mob (they tried to buy a fucking submarine to smuggle cocaine, drug trafficking and the cocaine industry supports FARC you know, they took hostages for several years right and that they threaten the stability of Columbia and several other Latin American Nations right.
Well whether the DEA's raids are constitutional or not then the Supreme court would deal with it. But it would need a libertarian, not a social liberal like Obama. But because of the fact that libertarians aren't a major party they have a snowball's chance in hell at getting on the supreme court. In fact with a republican in office they have a better chance because even though the republicans aren't with them on social issues, they're with the libertarians on gun issues and economic issues. Besides Obama was the head of the Harvard law review -> he's a social Liberal (there's no way in hell he'd let a libertarian get anywhere).
retards in red states? Newt Gingrich teaches at American university, I don't think they let retards teach there. Bob Dole is pretty successful and according to social darwinism retards aren't supposed to get that far. Teddy Roosevelt wasn't retarded either, he didn't fuck the country too.
Listen I'm not saying republicans are perfect and that all democrats are evil, but do us all a favor and look at McCain's senate record (it's a good one). I'd bet he'd get a lot of the Blue dog democrats that I like to vote for him on his conservative economic policies which are generally a little more grounded in common sense than a lot that I've heard recently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Democrats. perhaps it's the conservative type of democrat who can get elected more than once as opposed to the social liberals who they try to run now who (aside from john Kerry) are horrible as candidates and reek of elitism.

If you'd bother to do your research, you would notice he's christian, both his step father and biological father were muslim, he learned about Islam in a school in Indonesia, a school which taught Islam, Christianity and Catholicism.

This isn't important though, I'm only correcting you cause you're spewing the same idiotic horse shit so many republicans spew in hopes of putting Obama down and boosting McSleazball.


Maybe because he's old, senile and too angry/unstable to do the job correctly, and more interested in profiteering/warmongering? Wanna google that too?

That's in the past, the republican party isn't what it used to be. Now it's just corporatist shitbags, they're the only ones with a chance of winning.

You support the shitbags of today because of the greats of the past. Poor logic. Mindless drone.

Unless they're ignorant/lazy/stupid like I've been saying. It isn't hard to fool so many people when you have so many ways of doing it, such as fluoridating them, distracting them with stupid shit like gay rights and mtv, etc. Oh and if you're going to argue about fluoride, don't even bother, read up on the research in China on that and how it's banned in most of Europe.


Do you know they wouldn't get any money from the drug trade if drugs were legal? LOL


As for your whining about how dangerous drugs are, I'd have to say you're the suburban white kid, since you seem to think they're more dangerous than they really are. Fact: Drug Prohibition is more dangerous to people than drug use... You wouldn't know this cause you've lead a sheltered life.


I was referring to most of the voters in those states, being redneck/retards, voting bush in twice. Newt isn't stupid, but my comment had nothing to do with him, he isn't the common red state voter, he's just an evil piece of shit.

it was predominately muslim at the time. And based on the sources he went to church with reverend wright, saw his biological father in somalia wearing traditional Muslim garb, I'd still say it is very ambiguous.
that's what they said about Patton, and he was a very successful commander in Europe and North Africa.
It's funny because in the 2008 cycle the center for responsive politics doesn't rank defense as one of the top 25 industries contributing to the republican party in congress, I'd assume it's the same for the senate and presidential race.
well it's better than getting the support and money of trial lawyers like Barack Obama (who is the top recipient of funds from trial lawyers). these are the geniuses who decided to sue McDonalds because someone spilled coffee on themselves, regardless of how hot it was it's not the company's fault you spill something on yourself.
well the party repetitively produced greats because of the values of individualism to the party. Besides every democrat candidate to date has been kinda lame (with the exception of John Kerry -> he is a dignified war hero), there's nobody to write home about anymore in the democratic party, they pretty much shun the fiscal conservatives that were popular in Truman's day, and who would be a breath of fresh air compared to today's group of activists with less budgeting sense. Besides who said John McCain isn't the type of tough individual who's name could end up among those of the great republicans.
Maybe if the democrats put a blue dog in the presidential race instead of a near socialist I wouldn't be so livid and maybe they'd have a better chance at winning, they should run Steve Isreal -> he's a fiscal conservative (it makes sense) and his type of democrat is being choked blue by the Northeastern liberal that makes me sick.
which is why we have the electoral college.....I mean these ignorant lazy morons couldn't have penetrated the ranks of those actually able to vote for presidents? But the majority of people voted democrat during the last senate race....... so are you saying that the majority of people are stupid even though they voted democrat OK.
well Gay rights have to do with the values which the country was founded on, it's a very important issue it has to do with the rights to Life, Liberty and Property, which is in the Constitution. Who gives a fuck about flouride anyway, if you don't like it buy a god damned filter and get a life.
no they'd get more because the government doesn't sell the drugs, these people do because they can move it across borders and control the dealing of drugs. besides, do you even care that illegal drugs have destroyed inner city families......oh wait, of the top 10 poorest cities, 7 have not had a republican mayor since 1960.
I don't think you'd know about this lie, most narcotics lead to physical addiction (the bad kind), even though I'm a libertarian I say a few drugs are OK, but I'd prefer most to be illegal (cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine..etc.)
well these are some of the same people who voted for democrats faithfully for around a hundred years (in the south), and who also voted for Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, if they are stupid rednecks, it shows in their tireless devotion to the democratic party. But anyhow the popular vote doesn't count in a presidential election, it's the electoral college which will occasionally differ from the popular vote. I hope you won't make me quote the constitution on this one.
Anyhow if corporatist shitbag is the phrase referring to those who would like a free capitalist economy then I guess you could say that about John Locke and Adam Smith too. But I don't think John McCain is taking a whole lot of money from these industries (the center for responsive politics states he's getting 1% from Political Action committees about the same as Barack Obama).
Anyways I don't like Obama he lied, he signed a bill stating that phone companies would not be punished for illegal wiretapping which is invasive of my individual rights, even though he said he would not. I don't like that kind of big lie and even if my rights are being violated I'd like it if people would be honest about it (John McCain supported it, but at least he said he would beforehand).

So gays can have rights but we don't have the right to use an herbal medicine and we're forced to use pharmaceutical garbage that has horrible side effects. Brilliant.


Filters are very ineffective and expensive. We shouldn't have to buy a filter for our entire houses to prevent damage from a chemical so the aluminum industry can get richer. Most people will give a fuck when they learn the truth about it.



Wrong. If illicit drugs were legal they'd be regulated and taxed, there would be less people over dosing because they'd be able to know the dose they're getting, there would be no danger of contamination, more people would choose to use cannabis and other natural drugs, because it would be more available, it would be better, and they wouldn't have to be around people selling other drugs. People would grow their own. This would cripple the market for these drugs.



Prohibition has destroyed inner city families, not the drugs themselves. This is due to the fact that when people realize they were lied to about cannabis and other mild drugs, they tend to think all those other drugs are completely safe too.




......oh wait, we're setting child rapists and molesters free to make room for the over 750,000 people a year that are arrested for cannabis. oh wait, there's a disturbing trend with republicans being child molesters. http://www.armchairsubversive.org/


With over 60 billion dollars being spent every year against marijuana alone, all the money being wasted on the drug war could do great things for this country if the war on drugs ended.

The war on drugs was created by republicans, remember?

Oh and it sure is doing a lot of good for the american people http://reason.com/blog/show/126284.html


http://www.ajc.com/services/content/..._0509_web.html


http://sev.prnewswire.com/computer-e...8052008-1.html


I guess the countless victims of the drug war and their families won't care that they've been victimized as long as we're getting rid of the evil drugs.

I happen to have a lot of experience with drug addicts in real life. I also happen to know that for many of them, cannabis helps them quit using the dangerous addictive drugs, so if it were legal, that would be very useful for addicts.


Cocaine and methamphetamine are also much less addictive than people think. The addictions would be very easy to treat if cannabis were legal. Most of these addicts have already had some kind of issue which caused them to use the drug in the first place. They often relapse after detox because of stress and whatever was making them want to use it to begin with. Cannabis has been used effectively to treat addiction, psilocybin mushrooms and mescaline are very effective as well.

Methamphetamine is also not physically addictive, it is a psychological addiction. So you clearly do not have much experience with this and you are in no position to discuss it with me, let alone pretending you know about it.


I think you're a republican. There's a lot of closet republicans that claim to be with another party. By voting for someone that isn't a republican or democrat, you're basically just supporting republicans anyway. That's how Texas Governor Rick Perry was elected, because they split up the votes.

They'll rig the election again so mccain can win.


Really? "While each elector is technically free to vote for anyone eligible to be President, in practice each elector votes for the specific candidate to whom that elector is pledged. In the overwhelmingly majority of cases they do vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged.[1] Thus, voters indirectly vote for Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates by voting for correspondingly pledged electors."


Nice way of contradicting yourself.



Kind of like how mccain has been lying constantly http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...5/131758.shtml


http://mccain-mccant.blogspot.com/20...migration.html



What's really funny is there's so many republican rednecks using the word "nigger" constantly on youtube and other sites bitching about how Obama will give amnesty to illegals, when they don't realize McCain supports it and lied about it the whole time.


As for the wiretapping, that's not something I'm happy about. But it's no worse than the shit republicans have been doing for so long. http://www.republicancorruption.com/

I'd rather Ron Paul be president but that isn't possible and I think Obama is a much better choice than McCain.

By the way, you've spewed way too much republican propaganda, so I won't be responding to you anymore.

well that pharmaceutical garbage goes through the FDA and the Pure food and drug acts (both created by republicans). There is an important thing people don't hear about marijuana smoke, it actually has more carcinogens than that of cigarettes which are hailed as little cancer factories by everyone. Perhaps in pill form medical marijuana has a better chance than as a smokeable product.
1955's Kraus v. City of Cleveland, said, "Plaintiff's argument that fluoridation constitutes mass medication, the unlawful practice of medicine and adulteration may be answered as a whole. Clearly, the addition of fluorides to the water supply does not violate such principles any more than the chlorination of water, which has been held valid many times."
In 1973's Beck v. City Council of Beverly Hills, the California Court of Appeal, Second District, said, "Courts through the United States have uniformly held that fluoridation of water is a reasonable and proper exercise of the police power in the interest of public health."
http://www.filterwater.com/s-4-fluoride-filters.aspx
reduces fluoride to levels below 0.5ppm for $51 a year, you probably pay more for un necessary shit, but when it comes to which chemicals are in your drinking water (even if you can have a degree of control on it yourself), you choose to piss and moan. Besides the aluminum industry makes 5 cents whenever you throw out a can as opposed to recycling it. In fact it just sounds like you don't support anything other than trial lawyers, and they can be ambulance chasing scumbags.
how do you regulate and tax something you don't know is coming in or out of the country? trick question you can't.
I don't think so, I think it might go something like this: the unmitigated use of drugs would create habits supporting mindless self indulgence and doing whatever it takes to get to a bigger high (doing harder drugs) and people would be worse off than they were before and the legalization of drugs would be repealed.
lied to? maybe in the days of reefer madness and dragnet but not today. Um crack has hurt more people in more ways than you could imagine.
Well marijuana has the same affect on society as methamphetamine (http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retri...40673607604644)
"[the] biochemical changes induced by marijuana in the brain result in drug-seeking, drug taking behavior, which in many instances will lead the user to experiment with other pleasurable substances. The risk of progression from marijuana to cocaine to heroin is now well documented." Gabriel G. Nahas
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/demand/speakout/09so.htm
this is DEA it's their job to know about this shit.
long term use of marijuana promotes psychosis and depression.(^ Henquet, C., Krabbendam, L., Spauwen, J., Kaplan, C., Lieb, R., Wittchen, H.-U., and van Os, J. 2005. Prospective cohort study of cannabis use, predisposition for psychosis, and psychotic symptoms in young people. BMJ 330(7481)
yeah marijuana doesn't hurt anyone.
Oh and those top 10 poorest cities all have terrible crime problems (just thought I'd let you know), caused by none other than drugs, less drugs on the market = less users= less dealers = less violent crime.
that's also what they said about codeine and methadone.
also amphetamines (meth is included in this category) create physical dependency in the user, which is worse than addiction. This is what seperates "hard" and "soft" drugs. And just because you can climb a ladder one way (from soft drugs to heavy drugs) doesn't mean you can go back down, that's what dependency is and the only way to overcome it is through a 12 step program (the first step to fixing a problem is knowing you have one).
I don't think so, he was pretty frowned upon in the republican party for a long time for his "liberal slant". And just because a voter votes for the elector, doesn't mean he'll do what they want.
ADD MOMENT: fluoridated water doesn't have a psychological affect like THC (what gets you high in Marijuana) does, THC was once used as a truth serum by the OSS (the predecessor to the CIA).
indirect, their votes can still be tampered with, because Gore may have won the popular vote, but he lost the Electoral vote (which is what counts).

nope just showing that the popular vote and electoral vote may be close throughout most of America's elections, but really aren't strictly held together (2000 election.
Also, even though it is called the McCain AMNESTY plan, the illegal aliens still have to APPLY FOR CITIZENSHIP. It's not just handed to them on a silver platter (like most people use the word amnesty). And this is the issue that won McCain the title of "liberal" among the other Republicans.
this is really only a few republicans, a lot of the others live pretty decent lives.
Gingrich: even though he cheated on his wife, he didn't lie to America about it (which is why they wanted to impeach Clinton in the first place- lying to the American public).
Ronald Reagan: AIDS wouldn't be as bad of a crisis if someone had stopped somewhere along the way and said 3 words "use a condom" and encouraged monogamous relationships.
no the investigation found out that it was SCOOTER LIBBY.
wow all of a sudden using my right to freedom of speech and thought, as well as my right to come to my own conclusions is some kind of crime, I guess the United States of America will be changing its name to the People Republic of America soon.

He has the freedom to ignore your childishness or 'Zmanism'.

Now that's not propaganda at all.
a flat out contradiction.
And this sounds educated right?
this sounds balanced right? It sounds mature and like something someone with some kind of higher education would say too.......
not exactly but it stops terrorists (the taliban traffics heroin and Al Qieda does hashish), criminals (the Russian Mafia) and FARC (they smuggle and grow Cocaine) from getting their hands on money to buy better guns.
And what I said was childish?
Oh okay now I'm getting it, he can say whatever he wants because he's on the other side of the river. but all those in the river or on the republican bank, are un educated, evil, rednecks, racists, etc.
only if there was a way to ensure that they are DOMESTICALLY GROWN (which the climate is no good for, and according to your point of view, corporations would probably fuck the whole matter up and pump shit into your drugs).
ok you're calling important issues like gay marriage (has to do with the declaration of independence and constitution) distractions? But then you bring up fluoride?!?! that has to do with City and State politics not Federal. The federal government only sets the limits, the local politicians decide to put the fluoride in your water.
ok he can just say whatever he wants and it won't be labeled as propaganda, why don't you look at that closely.


like a spoiled child, I'm taking my ball and I'm going home.
But with the amount of shit he spewed calling what I brought to the table "propaganda" is merely him admitting that he can't argue for shit, use neutral sources or bring anyone to his side of the river. In fact this is the type of elitism that has choked the "yellow dog" democrats blue and probably led to them becoming "reagan democrats".
Maybe at some points it deteriorated to that, but saying I'm the only one to blame is just ignorant. The Challenge he issued just in posting this crap was enough to draw me to it like flies to shit and he should be ready to make valid arguments for his points without belittling the opponent. that is the art of debate. His sheer lack of knowledge and willingness to fling insults like a child in a fight over a spot on the swingset is just plain ridiculous.
He does have a right not to respond, especially if he'll just make himself sound like a jackass. It took me two days to try and phrase a good response that was courteous, but I thought that if you all supported this shit you don't deserve a polite exchange.

McCain is going to die from his face tumour anyway.