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Old 2008-07-20, 19:02
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Default Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

Before I ask my questiong, I just wanted to say that after about 15 straight minutes of searching BLTC, I couldn't find anything. On top of that, I hope that most of you know by now that Erowid is absolutely terrible when it comes to citing recreational dosages.

Now that we've got that out of the way, I need to ask: What is an ideal recreational dose of Adderall, or - more pretentiously specific - racemic amphetamine?

Fuck, this is almost embarrassing.
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Old 2008-07-20, 19:18
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

Everybody's different esp. with regard to how much they enjoy uppers. Tolerance matters too. If you havent done any uppers in a week or so then start with something like 20 mg (snorted I assume? If not make it so, way more euphoric then oral..). Thats probably not enough in some peoples opinions but for a starting dose not too bad. Maybe start w/30 mg. Do 10-15 mg more every 20-30 minutes till you are in a good place, but dont overdo it or the comedown will suck.
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Old 2008-07-20, 19:28
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Everybody's different esp. with regard to how much they enjoy uppers. Tolerance matters too. If you havent done any uppers in a week or so then start with something like 20 mg (snorted I assume? If not make it so, way more euphoric then oral..). Thats probably not enough in some peoples opinions but for a starting dose not too bad. Maybe start w/30 mg. Do 10-15 mg more every 20-30 minutes till you are in a good place, but dont overdo it or the comedown will suck.
No tolerance here, but I'm not asking about something that most people would ever consider "too little".

I guess what I'm asking for is just below whatever would make me feel uncomfortable.

I'm about 6' tall and weigh around 130 pounds if that matters at all.
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Old 2008-07-20, 19:40
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

Eat some food, then sniff 30 mg. If you want more and are feeling ok after 20 minutes do 20 mg more.
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Old 2008-07-20, 19:49
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

You should snort 30 mgs to start with, then maybe another 30 mgs later if the first dose isn't doing much. I usually do around 90 mgs, my dose two days ago was 120 mgs. I don't have a tolerance either, its usually a few weeks at the least between times I get Adderall. Try to get the IR, imo the XR sucks and its a bitch to crush up those beads.
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Old 2008-07-20, 19:52
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

If you're not experienced with stimulants, 40mg orally along with a few 10 or 20mg lines insufflated whenever you feel it's appropriate will probably be a good fucking time.
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Old 2008-07-20, 20:38
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

What if there's only, say, 35 mg? Oral or nasal?
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Old 2008-07-20, 20:45
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

Def. nasal IMO more euphoric, lasts less though. If you want it for recreation rather than energy for a long time snort it for sure. Snort it all at once I guess since you only have that, after you've eaten though, and take a couple multivitamins or B vitamin tabs too like 45-60 minutes before you snort it.
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Old 2008-07-20, 21:17
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

Take some anti acids, have any empty stomach, and pop 60-90mg, depending on what you think is safe for yourself. If they aren't IR, make sure the crush the beads and parachute. Taking them nasally just clogs your nostrils with nasty fillers, isn't nearly as effective as orally, I never feel as much of a high as oral, I prefer not to do them this way. Trust me, a larger amount orally is the best most efficient way to do it, just don't expect to sleep that night.
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Old 2008-07-20, 21:25
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

This actually brings up a good point: Anybody have any links comparing the bioavailbity rates of amphetamine? I've always wondered whether it was better to snort or parachute, and google isnt any help.
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Old 2008-07-20, 21:35
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What if there's only, say, 35 mg? Oral or nasal?


Personally, I usually prefer taking it orally because it lasts longer and is probably better for you, but I'll admit insufflation is more euphoric. The comedown always seemed a bit worse though. Also, if it's Adderall you've got a mixture of amphetamine salts, levo and dextro amphetamine. Levo-amphetamine is metabolized slower, so it lasts longer. I found that taking 40mg or so of adderall orally usually ment not being able to sleep for at least 10 hours, usually more. Internasally a dose like that would probably make it impossible to sleep for 6 hours, which would be easier to plan around. Keep in mind you may react differently than me, so give yourself plenty of time between when you take it, however you choose to, and when you usually go to sleep.
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Old 2008-07-20, 22:20
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This actually brings up a good point: Anybody have any links comparing the bioavailbity rates of amphetamine? I've always wondered whether it was better to snort or parachute, and google isnt any help.
http://www.chemeurope.com/lexikon/e/Amphetamine

Oral 20-25%
Intranasal 75%
Rectal 95-99%
Intravenous 100%

Wow look at that rectal bioavailability. You should butt plug that shit, it'll be like you injected it.
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Old 2008-07-21, 00:33
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

Taking them nasally just clogs your nostrils with nasty fillers, isn't nearly as effective as orally...

Why do people believe this? Confused

Read the last guy's post. It's been proven in more than a few different studies that intranasal use of amphetamines is more efficient than oral.

And for the record, I didn't know rectal was that high; interesting. Not interesting enough for me to start plugging my IR script, but interesting, nonetheless.
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Old 2008-07-21, 02:06
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

you wanna get fucking spun dude? 90 mgs...


blow 30, pop 30, fuckin have a smoke, toke up, and cut up another 30. you'll clean the shit out of your room, and be wired..


the best way to get high off amps, and meth as well is to mix and match your methods of intake...
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Old 2008-07-21, 03:08
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Default Re: Another one of my generic bullshit threads about dosages (amps)

the best way to get high off amps, and meth as well is to mix and match your methods of intake...

I'd have to agree with this. Never done (rather, never gotten my hands on) meth but it proves true for regular l-/d- amphetamines as well.
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