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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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2008-07-20, 03:54
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Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
I want to know if anyone here has tried it. Everywhere I looked has had mixed results some say yes some say no.I dont see what the difference would be getting it from dried pods, except for more work.I'm thinking about a simple ethanol or water extraction for some smokable O, any help out there?
Last edited by Not a drug user; 2008-07-20 at 04:05.
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2008-07-20, 04:10
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
You could save your self alot of time by searching google. Also i know somewhere on opiophile there are a plentiful amount of guides teaching the extraction of opes from pods and seeds. Other then this i am of no help. 
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2008-07-20, 04:17
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Tried google but most sites ive seen so far have said that you cant smoke the resulting goo from the extraction because to much plant starch is in it.still looking
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2008-07-20, 04:32
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Go read Otto Snows "Oxy".
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2008-07-20, 06:18
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Yeah, you can make a "smokable" extract from pod tea, but it is far from smokable opium. The best you can do is an A/B extraction, and it is NOT smokable. Well, actually it is, hell you can smoke mashed potatos if you want to, but you will get nothing from it.
I was the biggest skeptic there ever was about poppy pod tea, until I tried a 10 medium pod batch of tea and was fucking blasted out. After that, I tried finding a method for producing "smokable opium" from the tea. I spent 6-8 years, 2000 or so pods, and countless hundreds of dollars trying this. I am trained in pharmocology and chemistry. The only help that knowledge got me was to realise it's not possible. If you want smokable opium, you got to grow and scrape.
At one point I thought I was onto a breakthrough using steam distillation and a certain acid (this was before the proliferation of the internet), but it turned out to be completely inactive, at least smokably, I never had the balls to try it orally.
Last edited by CephaloCrackus; 2008-07-20 at 06:26.
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2008-07-20, 06:46
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
So from what your saying its not posible,dam,oh well.The only reason I was trying to stay away from the tea is that my stomach is fairly sensitive to opiates(puking isn't fun)so im probably going to get some dry pods off ebay,try the tea and then im going to plant this fall and get some smokable O.Or I could try an indoor grow.hmmmm
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# 7

2008-07-20, 09:04
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
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Originally Posted by Not a drug user
So from what your saying its not posible,dam,oh well.The only reason I was trying to stay away from the tea is that my stomach is fairly sensitive to opiates(puking isn't fun)so im probably going to get some dry pods off ebay,try the tea and then im going to plant this fall and get some smokable O.Or I could try an indoor grow.hmmmm
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If your stomach is sensitive to opiates (or anything at all), you may want to forgo the pod tea method. I have a very strong stomach, but this pod tea brings it to its knees. It tastes VERY bad. I could probably drink a black mans diarrhea from the source without much problem, but the tea makes me gag big time. And there really isn't much point in sipping it as it would take to long to get into the bloodstream. Plus it would taste just as bad, but for longer.
If you're gonna do it, brew a "10 golfball-sized pod" tea. Use one quart of water. This is how I do it:
- Put the pods (minus seeds, you can plant them later) into the blender and use whatever setting to grind them to powder.
- Pour the "almost boiling temp" water into the blender, onto the powdered pods. Hit the mix button for just a sec to mix it up.
- Let sit for 5 minutes, hit the pulse button again a few times.
- After 5-10 mins, hit the pulse button again a couple times.
- Repeat the pulse button procedure until the mix has sat for about 30-40 mins.
- Use a t-shirt or something similar to filter the whole nasty mess into another container. Use a container that will handle the entire quart of liquid. You don't want to do multiple filtrations.
- Squeeze as much liquid as you can out of the filtered pulp ball into the container.
- First time, drink half the liquid (you can have more later + you need to gauge the strength of the pods). Second time, or hard headed, drink it all. You can try to flavour it if you want, but nothing will help and will only add to the amount of liquid you have to drink. It's so bad, I'm gagging just typing this and I haven't drank this shit in a year or so.
I always downed the quart in 10 mins or less. About 20 mins later you will feel a "pressure" in your head. That feeling subsides within another 10 mins into a very nice opiate buzz. That buzz grows for another 30-40 mins into a very beautiful buzz that lasts for 3-5 hours. The really good effects only last 1.5-2.5 hours.
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2008-07-20, 09:11
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Hey thanks for the info CephaloCrackus for a new member your more helpful than most of the "others".Who would of thunk that you could get drugs from   Do you have any experince with research chems?Lookin into getting some soon.Im thinkin of using either water or relatively pure ethanol for the solvent then evap the alchy or water and putting the resulting extracted liquid in some strong tasting juice.Idk im ordering the pods tomorrow well have to see how this goes
Last edited by Not a drug user; 2008-07-20 at 10:27.
Reason: covering my ass
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# 9

2008-07-20, 09:45
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Hey!, I'm a HUGE fan of 'LOST'. Are there really "Others" here?
Anyway. Use water (distilled if possible). No advantage to using Ethyl. It costs about 1000x more, and may/will extract other components you don't want from plant material.
I don't have any expeirence with research chems. Not sure I want to turn my mind over to "those guys on the web with the cool chems." They may be real, but what happens if these people that sell these chems (unregulated) accidently give me 2-c-e instead of 2-c-i, 20-40 mg's of 2-c-e? might have a hard time with that dose. I haven't done real drugs in a long time, and I really don't miss them. They actually kinda scare me these days. I'm fine with fantasizing and "one day" wishing. 'Til then (and there will be a then), I'll enjoy soaking my brain with alcohol and driving my Cadillac at very high speeds.
Last edited by CephaloCrackus; 2008-07-20 at 18:24.
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2008-07-20, 10:06
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Can you use fresh pods to make poppy pod tea?
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 2008-07-20, 10:13
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CephaloCrackus 
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
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Can you use fresh pods to make poppy pod tea?
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Yeah, just use a couple less. Instead of 10, use 8. Also, to get nasty stains out of your carpet, try a little hairspray.
Sorry, just starting to feel like the god damn Martha Stewart of poppy tea.
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 2008-07-20, 10:21
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Yeah, just use a couple less. Instead of 10, use 8.
Haha awesome, cheers.
Does fresh pod tea taste nicer than dry pod tea? Dry pod tea was pretty bad.
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#13
 2008-07-20, 10:30
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Hey CephaloCrackus thinkingtohard@aol.com Ive also been thinking about making the tea as described before reducing it sa far as it will go without burning it and putting that in brownies.man my back hurts I need a brownie, hehe.Well Ill be back on later gotta go put the motor in my truck now that the suns coming up.
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 2008-07-20, 11:19
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
reducing it sa far as it will go without burning it and putting that in brownies.
But the thing is, if you reduce it down from a quart, or even say a pint, when you rehydrate it back to the standardized amount, it will taste the same as(s) it did before you reduced it.
Take for instance, hot sauce. If a teaspoon of the hot sauce is 'hot as hell' , no matter how much you reduce it, if you add it back to something - it will be 'hot as hell'. I see your point with the "do it in one shot method", but I just don't have any info on that deal. Also, I would be careful with the "boil down" method. You WILL lose alot of the more "pretty" alkaloids present in your concoction. All of the methods you are proposing have been tried and failed throughout the years. If there really was a good way, other than grow and scrape, or crush and drink, it would be well documented. It would not be some obscure method you'd have to search for on the web.
Poppy tea be a harsh mistress. Opium on the other hand is a little whore. Just like Jenkins momma.
I'll hit you up on the mail.
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#15
 2008-07-20, 12:17
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Bullshit. You dumbass. It is totally possible, like I said, go read Oxy.
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 2008-07-20, 13:30
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Bullshit. You dumbass. It is totally possible, like I said, go read Oxy.
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If I could find a free version of it I would, havent had any luck yet,can you help?
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#17
 2008-07-20, 18:26
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CephaloCrackus 
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
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Bullshit. You dumbass. It is totally possible, like I said, go read Oxy.
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Wow! stupid noob really is stoopid. Like I said, go read the first six words of this post.
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 2008-07-20, 21:54
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
There IS a free version floating around. I'm not your fucking research monkey. I have DONE IT MYSELF. I've made OTC heroin, so, until you can somehow disprove him, and me, then you need to shut your fucking cockhole. I don't give a fuck WHO you are, do not fucking contradict me you dumb little cunt.
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 2008-07-20, 23:03
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
not a drug user, check your email. i sent you a present.
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#20
 2008-07-21, 00:02
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
There IS a free version floating around. I'm not your fucking research monkey. I have DONE IT MYSELF. I've made OTC heroin, so, until you can somehow disprove him, and me, then you need to shut your fucking cockhole. I don't give a fuck WHO you are, do not fucking contradict me you dumb little cunt.
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I've read a recipe for making heroin out of morphine pills. To make heroin, you'd just need to extract morphine from the pods then follow the other recipe, right?
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#21
 2008-07-21, 03:37
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
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Originally Posted by Choking Victim
not a drug user, check your email. i sent you a present.
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Man and I didn't get you anything :D Thanks a bunch, looks like I have some reading to do.You sir deserve a cookie for this
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#22
 2008-07-21, 03:50
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
Yeah, I want to know what that other guy asked, is it possible to extract the morphine from the pods and create a snortable/smokeable form of heroin from the pods?
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#23
 2008-07-21, 04:32
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Re: Extracting the goods from dried poppy pods?(no tea)
is it possible to extract the morphine from the pods and create a snortable/smokeable form of heroin from the pods?
Yes it is
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