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2008-07-19, 23:00
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Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,386643,00.html
Well the democrats are showing their true colors again. Instead of cutting all the wasteful spending they want to raise the gas tax.. Gas is already high enough you pricks!
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# 2

2008-07-19, 23:44
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Re: Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
Saw the link was Fox news...did not even bother clicking on it.
I pay attention to Fox for entertainment only. I do not get informed from Fox. Informing people is not their business.
Please repost with this story done by a news ogranization and not a sensationalist right wing mouth peice please.
Or if you wanted to turn this into a discussion...you could find the democratic side of the argument and post it as well...then we could discuss it.
I do not accept information from msnbc as unbiased either.
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# 3

2008-07-20, 00:11
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Re: Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
I wish news sources would post links (or even the damn bill number) when they discuss legislation. It'd make everything much easier.
That said... "to enable construction of more roads, so that we can keep shipping shit in trucks" (what they mean, I think, by "continued economic advancement".
LOL. Idiots.
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The fox news posting is essentially the AP release. Nothing exciting. Googling reveals a shitload of sites quoting the damn shit.
Last edited by BoilingLeadBath; 2008-07-20 at 00:13.
Reason: + second part
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# 4

2008-07-20, 00:18
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Re: Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
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Originally Posted by BrokeProphet
Saw the link was Fox news...did not even bother clicking on it.
I pay attention to Fox for entertainment only. I do not get informed from Fox. Informing people is not their business.
Please repost with this story done by a news ogranization and not a sensationalist right wing mouth peice please.
Or if you wanted to turn this into a discussion...you could find the democratic side of the argument and post it as well...then we could discuss it.
I do not accept information from msnbc as unbiased either.
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
Here it is from the AP. "Now, lawmakers quietly are talking about raising fuel taxes by a dime from the current 18.4 cents a gallon on gasoline and 24.3 cents on diesel fuel."
There goes your weak attempt at blowing off the question. ITS FOX THEY"RE LYING!
I can't imagine what they're going to do with Obama in there. Certainly not make gas cheaper.
Oh, well. If Obama does win, he will destroy the Democratic Party.
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# 5

2008-07-20, 02:07
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Re: Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
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Originally Posted by BrokeProphet
I do not accept information from msnbc as unbiased either.
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So then what biased news sources do you accept?
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# 6

2008-07-20, 19:50
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Re: Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
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Originally Posted by Zman
[url]There goes your weak attempt at blowing off the question. ITS FOX THEY"RE LYING!
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Not blowing off the question. I simply don't care what Fox News says about anything, as they are not a real news organization, and I refuse to take them seriously. I did want to participate in the discussion, but their is no discussion when someone presents tabloid jounralism as the source for the topic.
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I am thinking that as unpopular an idea it is to raise the gas tax right now, there MUST be a growing need to do so.
Just three years ago, that trust fund ( 52-year-old Highway Trust Fund) enjoyed a surplus of $10 billion. Even without a tax freeze, the fund is projected to finish 2009 with a deficit of $3 billion. That that could grow as Americans drive less and buy less gas because of higher pump prices.
The consequence is that only about $27 billion in federal money will be available next year to states and local governments for new infrastructure investment even though the current highway act calls for spending $41 billion a year. For many, the solution is to raise rather than suspend or cut federal fuel taxes, which haven't changed since 1993.
The Transportation Construction Coalition, a group of industry companies and unions, said that if Congress does not do something about the shortfall, states will lose about one-third of their road and bridge money in the budget year starting Oct. 1. That would put 485,000 more jobs at risk.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
Federal fuel taxes have not changed since '93.
May be a bad time for the change, but that does nothing to diminish the fact that it is time for them to change, increase with our inflation.
The fact that Dems are the bearer of bad news, the attacks it opens them up to from GOP smear machinations, shows more responsibility to the people of this country than the Bush regime has shown in 8 years.
Last edited by BrokeProphet; 2008-07-20 at 19:58.
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2008-07-20, 19:54
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Reading Pa USA
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Re: Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
you want to cut military spending by half? That's ridiculous. 10-20% that's fine, but where are you cutting it from? R&D? You're killing our soldiers if you cut it there...where do you suggest?
CIA-Umm..unless you want this country to be destroyed, feel free to cut this department. If you enjoy living here, you need them
FBI-Same
NSA-Same, to a lesser extent
ATF- They're a bunch of fuckwads
DEA-I agree wholeheartedly
Homeland Security-DESTROY IT...sounds almost fascist.
Anyway, the point is you can't cut the military budget by 50%, its just way too fucking much
Last edited by vazilizaitsev89; 2008-07-20 at 19:56.
Reason: Forgot one
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# 8

2008-07-20, 20:44
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Re: Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
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Originally Posted by BrokeProphet
Not blowing off the question. I simply don't care what Fox News says about anything, as they are not a real news organization, and I refuse to take them seriously. .
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So then what is a real news organization? Fox is watched by more people than any other station. More people trust Fox than the other stations. Fox get all their stories from the same place as other stations. Reuters, Ap, etc..If Fox isn't real.. then NONE of the networks are real.
Maybe it's because Fox reports REAL news, not twisted to fit YOUR views. So you discount it as "fake" because you can't accept the truth. You are scared of Fox because they prove that your views are wrong.
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# 9

2008-07-20, 21:02
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The Milky Way
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Re: Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
You're right. They want us to become poor and fuck the country over. The Republicans however, want to make everything very cheap and have a great country. How could I have not seen this before...
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# 10

2008-07-20, 21:03
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The Milky Way
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Re: Democrats want to make gas even more expensive
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Originally Posted by vazilizaitsev89
you want to cut military spending by half? That's ridiculous. 10-20% that's fine, but where are you cutting it from? R&D? You're killing our soldiers if you cut it there...where do you suggest?
CIA-Umm..unless you want this country to be destroyed, feel free to cut this department. If you enjoy living here, you need them
FBI-Same
NSA-Same, to a lesser extent
ATF- They're a bunch of fuckwads
DEA-I agree wholeheartedly
Homeland Security-DESTROY IT...sounds almost fascist.
Anyway, the point is you can't cut the military budget by 50%, its just way too fucking much
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well we easily could if we stopped invading countries, staging coups and trying to take over the world. But that would be reasonable...
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