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 #1 
Old 2008-07-17, 23:30
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Default If a drug was made

That somehow changed your chemical composition to be 'high' as your normal state of mind permanently would you do it?

If so what drug would you like your high to be like?

I'd say either pot, shrooms or acid. Pot because I can function while being high. Shrooms and acid because you would live life completely free spirited, but you would likely end up dead relatively quickly, which isn't a bad thing in my case.

Use your imagination, you never know what crazy shit they'll find out how to make next.

So...

Which drug would you like to be permanently high on and why??
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Old 2008-07-17, 23:32
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ive thought about this before. id probly pick some kind of opiates. i can still semi-function on them if need be. and if the high never ever decreaed it would be ok...........


but isnt the point of getting high to escape? after awhile it would just become boring.
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Old 2008-07-17, 23:32
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Shrooms ftw.

If i could replace my weed smoking habit with shroom taking, i would be a very happy boy.
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Old 2008-07-18, 00:10
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ketamine
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Old 2008-07-18, 01:04
Naminator01 Naminator01 is offline
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ketamine

Yeah, if you enjoy horrible sickness.
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Old 2008-07-18, 02:39
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Coke, duh. The only bad thing about it is the comedown, and if that never comes, I'd do it.
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Old 2008-07-18, 02:45
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but would u even be high anymore? Since your permanetley like that then that would be like you in your sober state. So pretty quickly it wouldnt even matter. Then youd be trying to get "sober" for a new high.
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Old 2008-07-18, 02:48
GanjaGuru420 GanjaGuru420 is offline
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Definately would be the weed, and would be even better if you could control the stimulating and relaxing effects
 #9 
Old 2008-07-18, 02:48
thatcoolkid thatcoolkid is offline
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Irreversible enzyme inhibitors. Fuck your shit up, permanently. Cyanides one of 'em...
 #10 
Old 2008-07-18, 02:49
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Originally Posted by droppinds
but would u even be high anymore? Since your permanetley like that then that would be like you in your sober state. So pretty quickly it wouldnt even matter. Then youd be trying to get "sober" for a new high.


High in a sense of feeling the drug. Of course there are many vairables like tolerance, dose, the "sober" state and mental problems due to long term use.

But who gives a fuck :)
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:12
nothing special nothing special is offline
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sounds like substance D from A Scanner Darkly. which, btw, is an excellent movie to trip to.
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:19
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Opiates for sure, a solid 30mg oxy dose for the rest of my life would be amazing, though stimulants would also be very interesting. The opes would have to be potentiated tho.
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:21
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Opiates for sure, a solid 30mg oxy dose for the rest of my life would be amazing, though stimulantes would also be very interesting.

opiates>stims
 #14 
Old 2008-07-18, 03:26
RosettaStoned RosettaStoned is offline
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Eh, if anything probably opiates. Like if you were permanently tripping on acid, you'd probably stop liking it after a little while. And as far as weed goes, if you're high literally 24/7, then that just becomes the norm for you because you always feel like that, then it wouldn't be as much fun. I like drugs because it makes you feel different, why else would you want to do them? But opiates would probably be the best choice just because you'd always feel mad good.
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:29
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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I'd only do this if I never "Got used to it". No tolerance would develop and I was always at the peak of being high. Yeah, I think I'd do it.

Long as there was a drug to end it. I'd go for days and days and days, but I like to think clearly sometimes.
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:30
Captain Cannabis Captain Cannabis is offline
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MDMA you would live in paradise
 #17 
Old 2008-07-18, 03:31
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oh, itd also have to be undetected by all form of drug testing........
 #18 
Old 2008-07-18, 03:32
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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MDMA you would live in paradise


Yeah, I change my mind to this.

And I'd have to NEVER get used to it. I'd always feel like It was just kicking in.
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:38
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Yeah, I change my mind to this.

And I'd have to NEVER get used to it. I'd always feel like It was just kicking in.

would it be better if it always felt like it was at its climax?
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:41
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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would it be better if it always felt like it was at its climax?

Ah, now thats what I meant.
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It'd be great to be constantly happy, constantly feeling great, always swimming in pleasure.
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:43
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MDMA you would live in paradise


Beat me to it, if i could stay high on MDMA...I'd just be a better person (happier at least).
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:45
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Yeah, I change my mind to this.

And I'd have to NEVER get used to it. I'd always feel like It was just kicking in.

Yeah constantly peaking on mdma would make life fucking amazing.
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:46
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Yeah constantly peaking on mdma would make life fucking amazing.

only downside is the constant water drinking youd have to do.....and youd pretty much b unable to do any form of work....cept maybe porno's
 #24 
Old 2008-07-18, 03:48
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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only downside is the constant water drinking youd have to do.....and youd pretty much b unable to do any form of work....cept maybe porno's

WITHOUT any of the downsides, of course.
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Old 2008-07-18, 03:59
d4rk3 d4rk3 is offline
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Rolling 24/7 FTW!

I'd be throwing led's around everywhere I went lol...
 #26 
Old 2008-07-18, 04:11
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You are all like a bunch of kids wishing they could eat icecream for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Grow the fuck up.
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Old 2008-07-18, 04:11
Unseeen Unseeen is offline
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The last time I ate shrooms, my friends and I agreed that if we felt that way for the rest of our lives, we'd be insane.

But I could survive a nice dose of MDMA for the rest of my life. :) Minus the neurotoxicity.
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Old 2008-07-18, 04:29
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I would choose alcohol for sure, even though weed is my favorite drug.


Weed.. eh I dunno because I gotta finish school, I function fine when I'm high at school (nearly every day) but I would hate being high when it came time for: Job interviews, writing essays, taking tests, etc.. all the time. Plus I would permanently be unable to talk to chicks until I learned better!

Alcohol would be nice but I would like to permanently be on like 4 beers, elevated confidence, don't give too much of a fuck, but still on point. you know what i mean.

I guess my next choice would be coke.

BUT to be perfectly honest I wouldn't want to be high all the time on anything, I like the act of getting fucked up, it would be kinda lame, being high at work and shit.. but if someone offered me the chance to be buzzed forever I would take it.
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Old 2008-07-18, 04:47
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I would choose alcohol for sure, even though weed is my favorite drug.


Weed.. eh I dunno because I gotta finish school, I function fine when I'm high at school (nearly every day) but I would hate being high when it came time for: Job interviews, writing essays, taking tests, etc.. all the time. Plus I would permanently be unable to talk to chicks until I learned better!

Alcohol would be nice but I would like to permanently be on like 4 beers, elevated confidence, don't give too much of a fuck, but still on point. you know what i mean.

I guess my next choice would be coke.

BUT to be perfectly honest I wouldn't want to be high all the time on anything, I like the act of getting fucked up, it would be kinda lame, being high at work and shit.. but if someone offered me the chance to be buzzed forever I would take it.


I agree on the high part but I couldn't be buzzed forever I love alcohol but something about it feels like it numbs out life and I wouldn't want to live like that for the rest of my life.
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Old 2008-07-18, 04:57
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I wrote this big paper for a philosophy class once about whether or not it would be a good thing if through paradise engineering we were all overwhelmed by euphoria at all times.

Wish I remember what I did with it.

Pretty much the obvious thing to note is that whatever your baseline state is will become normal and mundane.

No matter how good that state is, it would be boring if you experienced it all the time.

QFMT whoever said it's like wanting to eat icecream for every meal, it's just not special anymore or logical when you do that.
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Old 2008-07-18, 05:04
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actually, i think a good nicotine buzz would be nice. youd still be able to do everything you wanted, could still mix it with drugs, youd still be in control, would enchance almost every aspect of life.
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Old 2008-07-18, 05:45
RosettaStoned RosettaStoned is offline
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I wrote this big paper for a philosophy class once about whether or not it would be a good thing if through paradise engineering we were all overwhelmed by euphoria at all times.


Read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley. But like I kind of already said, and as other people have said, most of the fun of drugs is the change. I don't think being on something all the time would be that much fun. Being sober is kind of nice sometimes. Living constantly high sounds like a pretty dull existence. How happy we are at any moment in our life is defined by how sad/upset/depressed/whatever we previously were, or how happy we previously were.

"Being and non-being create each other.
Difficult and easy support each other.
Long and short define each other.
High and low depend on each other.
Before and after follow each other."
-Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu.
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Old 2008-07-18, 05:52
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Read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley. But like I kind of already said, and as other people have said, most of the fun of drugs is the change. I don't think being on something all the time would be that much fun. Being sober is kind of nice sometimes. Living constantly high sounds like a pretty dull existence. How happy we are at any moment in our life is defined by how sad/upset/depressed/whatever we previously were, or how happy we previously were.


That book is amazing by the way.

As previously stated over and over if the high hypothetically never got "boring"/decreased or any of those kind of holes in this idea then I would go with an opiate. I can still function just fine on them but yet somehow feel whole (if that makes any sense).
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Old 2008-07-18, 06:05
RosettaStoned RosettaStoned is offline
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That book is amazing by the way.

As previously stated over and over if the high hypothetically never got "boring"/decreased or any of those kind of holes in this idea then I would go with an opiate. I can still function just fine on them but yet somehow feel whole (if that makes any sense).

Haha, yea dude, Huxley's a pretty smart guy and writes some good ass shit. And opiates would probably be the best choice just because it's got like everything. Euphoria, not caring, just feeling really chill (if you're into that), but yet still able to do things. However, if the side effects were still present, it'd be pretty fuckin' annoying to constantly feel itchy, hahaha.
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Old 2008-07-18, 08:28
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eccccssstttaaaasssyyy. seriously, why not love everything all the time?
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Old 2008-07-18, 08:32
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mdma, no two ways about it.
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Old 2008-07-18, 12:17
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actually, i think a good nicotine buzz would be nice. youd still be able to do everything you wanted, could still mix it with drugs, youd still be in control, would enchance almost every aspect of life.


This would be enjoyable, unless it makes you sick.
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Old 2008-07-18, 16:07
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nutmeg, any fuckin day
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Old 2008-07-18, 16:13
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Haha, yea dude, Huxley's a pretty smart guy and writes some good ass shit. And opiates would probably be the best choice just because it's got like everything. Euphoria, not caring, just feeling really chill (if you're into that), but yet still able to do things. However, if the side effects were still present, it'd be pretty fuckin' annoying to constantly feel itchy, hahaha.

I read Huxley's Doors of Perception after my first acid trip ever, and since then I've read pretty much all of his work.

Brave New World was one of the reasons I chose to write that paper ironically. Anyway, he's definitely a really good writer.
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Old 2008-07-18, 16:13
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I would probably say tramadol.
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Old 2008-07-19, 00:56
Johnny Bonanno Johnny Bonanno is offline
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but isnt the point of getting high to escape? after awhile it would just become boring.

Its to explore. New worlds never get old.
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Old 2008-07-19, 01:11
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Ringer.
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Old 2008-07-19, 01:15
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definitely alcohol or maybe a light to medium dose of clonzepam (klonopin)
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Old 2008-07-19, 01:39
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I would probably say tramadol.


mind me asking why? if your gonna pick opiates, why not pick the best of the best?
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Old 2008-07-19, 04:23
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mind me asking why? if your gonna pick opiates, why not pick the best of the best?

Yea, unless you haven't done any of the other stronger opiates (not trying to put you down, just saying). Something like oxy (never done boy or any morphine derivative, unless you wanna count codeine because they make that from morphine because it's easier to do that then to just extract codeine) gives you a warm rush and it's way more euphoric.
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Old 2008-07-19, 06:56
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Assuming psychosis wasn't part of the deal, amphetamine for sure.
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Old 2008-07-19, 18:48
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i would like to have a moderate oxycontin perma-lift. then i would just continue to do other drugs whenever i wanted something different.
 
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