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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-07-17, 23:30
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If a drug was made
That somehow changed your chemical composition to be 'high' as your normal state of mind permanently would you do it?
If so what drug would you like your high to be like?
I'd say either pot, shrooms or acid. Pot because I can function while being high. Shrooms and acid because you would live life completely free spirited, but you would likely end up dead relatively quickly, which isn't a bad thing in my case.
Use your imagination, you never know what crazy shit they'll find out how to make next.
So...
Which drug would you like to be permanently high on and why??
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#2
 2008-07-17, 23:32
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Re: If a drug was made
ive thought about this before. id probly pick some kind of opiates. i can still semi-function on them if need be. and if the high never ever decreaed it would be ok...........
but isnt the point of getting high to escape? after awhile it would just become boring.
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#3
 2008-07-17, 23:32
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Re: If a drug was made
Shrooms ftw.
If i could replace my weed smoking habit with shroom taking, i would be a very happy boy.
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#4
 2008-07-18, 00:10
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Re: If a drug was made
ketamine
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#5
 2008-07-18, 01:04
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Re: If a drug was made
ketamine
Yeah, if you enjoy horrible sickness.
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#6
 2008-07-18, 02:39
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Re: If a drug was made
Coke, duh. The only bad thing about it is the comedown, and if that never comes, I'd do it.
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#7
 2008-07-18, 02:45
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Re: If a drug was made
but would u even be high anymore? Since your permanetley like that then that would be like you in your sober state. So pretty quickly it wouldnt even matter. Then youd be trying to get "sober" for a new high.
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#8
 2008-07-18, 02:48
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Re: If a drug was made
Definately would be the weed, and would be even better if you could control the stimulating and relaxing effects
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#9
 2008-07-18, 02:48
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Re: If a drug was made
Irreversible enzyme inhibitors. Fuck your shit up, permanently. Cyanides one of 'em...
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#10
 2008-07-18, 02:49
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Re: If a drug was made
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Originally Posted by droppinds
but would u even be high anymore? Since your permanetley like that then that would be like you in your sober state. So pretty quickly it wouldnt even matter. Then youd be trying to get "sober" for a new high.
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High in a sense of feeling the drug. Of course there are many vairables like tolerance, dose, the "sober" state and mental problems due to long term use.
But who gives a fuck :)
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#11
 2008-07-18, 03:12
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Re: If a drug was made
sounds like substance D from A Scanner Darkly. which, btw, is an excellent movie to trip to.
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#12
 2008-07-18, 03:19
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Re: If a drug was made
Opiates for sure, a solid 30mg oxy dose for the rest of my life would be amazing, though stimulants would also be very interesting. The opes would have to be potentiated tho.
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#13
 2008-07-18, 03:21
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Re: If a drug was made
Opiates for sure, a solid 30mg oxy dose for the rest of my life would be amazing, though stimulantes would also be very interesting.
opiates>stims
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#14
 2008-07-18, 03:26
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RosettaStoned 
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Re: If a drug was made
Eh, if anything probably opiates. Like if you were permanently tripping on acid, you'd probably stop liking it after a little while. And as far as weed goes, if you're high literally 24/7, then that just becomes the norm for you because you always feel like that, then it wouldn't be as much fun. I like drugs because it makes you feel different, why else would you want to do them? But opiates would probably be the best choice just because you'd always feel mad good.
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#15
 2008-07-18, 03:29
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Re: If a drug was made
I'd only do this if I never "Got used to it". No tolerance would develop and I was always at the peak of being high. Yeah, I think I'd do it.
Long as there was a drug to end it. I'd go for days and days and days, but I like to think clearly sometimes.
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#16
 2008-07-18, 03:30
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Captain Cannabis 
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Re: If a drug was made
MDMA you would live in paradise
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#17
 2008-07-18, 03:31
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Re: If a drug was made
oh, itd also have to be undetected by all form of drug testing........
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#18
 2008-07-18, 03:32
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JustAnotherAsshole 
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Re: If a drug was made
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Originally Posted by Captain Cannabis
MDMA you would live in paradise
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Yeah, I change my mind to this.
And I'd have to NEVER get used to it. I'd always feel like It was just kicking in.
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#19
 2008-07-18, 03:38
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Re: If a drug was made
Yeah, I change my mind to this.
And I'd have to NEVER get used to it. I'd always feel like It was just kicking in.
would it be better if it always felt like it was at its climax?
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#20
 2008-07-18, 03:41
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JustAnotherAsshole 
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Re: If a drug was made
would it be better if it always felt like it was at its climax?
Ah, now thats what I meant.
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It'd be great to be constantly happy, constantly feeling great, always swimming in pleasure.
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#21
 2008-07-18, 03:43
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jator 
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Originally Posted by Captain Cannabis
MDMA you would live in paradise
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Beat me to it, if i could stay high on MDMA...I'd just be a better person (happier at least).
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#22
 2008-07-18, 03:45
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Re: If a drug was made
Yeah, I change my mind to this.
And I'd have to NEVER get used to it. I'd always feel like It was just kicking in.
Yeah constantly peaking on mdma would make life fucking amazing.
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#23
 2008-07-18, 03:46
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Re: If a drug was made
Yeah constantly peaking on mdma would make life fucking amazing.
only downside is the constant water drinking youd have to do.....and youd pretty much b unable to do any form of work....cept maybe porno's
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#24
 2008-07-18, 03:48
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JustAnotherAsshole 
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Re: If a drug was made
only downside is the constant water drinking youd have to do.....and youd pretty much b unable to do any form of work....cept maybe porno's
WITHOUT any of the downsides, of course.
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#25
 2008-07-18, 03:59
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Re: If a drug was made
Rolling 24/7 FTW!
I'd be throwing led's around everywhere I went lol...
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#26
 2008-07-18, 04:11
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silverballs 
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Re: If a drug was made
You are all like a bunch of kids wishing they could eat icecream for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Grow the fuck up.
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#27
 2008-07-18, 04:11
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Re: If a drug was made
The last time I ate shrooms, my friends and I agreed that if we felt that way for the rest of our lives, we'd be insane.
But I could survive a nice dose of MDMA for the rest of my life. :) Minus the neurotoxicity.
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#28
 2008-07-18, 04:29
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Re: If a drug was made
I would choose alcohol for sure, even though weed is my favorite drug.
Weed.. eh I dunno because I gotta finish school, I function fine when I'm high at school (nearly every day) but I would hate being high when it came time for: Job interviews, writing essays, taking tests, etc.. all the time. Plus I would permanently be unable to talk to chicks until I learned better!
Alcohol would be nice but I would like to permanently be on like 4 beers, elevated confidence, don't give too much of a fuck, but still on point. you know what i mean.
I guess my next choice would be coke.
BUT to be perfectly honest I wouldn't want to be high all the time on anything, I like the act of getting fucked up, it would be kinda lame, being high at work and shit.. but if someone offered me the chance to be buzzed forever I would take it.
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#29
 2008-07-18, 04:47
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Captain Cannabis 
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Re: If a drug was made
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Originally Posted by Feds In Town
I would choose alcohol for sure, even though weed is my favorite drug.
Weed.. eh I dunno because I gotta finish school, I function fine when I'm high at school (nearly every day) but I would hate being high when it came time for: Job interviews, writing essays, taking tests, etc.. all the time. Plus I would permanently be unable to talk to chicks until I learned better!
Alcohol would be nice but I would like to permanently be on like 4 beers, elevated confidence, don't give too much of a fuck, but still on point. you know what i mean.
I guess my next choice would be coke.
BUT to be perfectly honest I wouldn't want to be high all the time on anything, I like the act of getting fucked up, it would be kinda lame, being high at work and shit.. but if someone offered me the chance to be buzzed forever I would take it.
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I agree on the high part but I couldn't be buzzed forever I love alcohol but something about it feels like it numbs out life and I wouldn't want to live like that for the rest of my life.
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#30
 2008-07-18, 04:57
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Re: If a drug was made
I wrote this big paper for a philosophy class once about whether or not it would be a good thing if through paradise engineering we were all overwhelmed by euphoria at all times.
Wish I remember what I did with it.
Pretty much the obvious thing to note is that whatever your baseline state is will become normal and mundane.
No matter how good that state is, it would be boring if you experienced it all the time.
QFMT whoever said it's like wanting to eat icecream for every meal, it's just not special anymore or logical when you do that.
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#31
 2008-07-18, 05:04
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Re: If a drug was made
actually, i think a good nicotine buzz would be nice. youd still be able to do everything you wanted, could still mix it with drugs, youd still be in control, would enchance almost every aspect of life.
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#32
 2008-07-18, 05:45
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Re: If a drug was made
I wrote this big paper for a philosophy class once about whether or not it would be a good thing if through paradise engineering we were all overwhelmed by euphoria at all times.
Read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley. But like I kind of already said, and as other people have said, most of the fun of drugs is the change. I don't think being on something all the time would be that much fun. Being sober is kind of nice sometimes. Living constantly high sounds like a pretty dull existence. How happy we are at any moment in our life is defined by how sad/upset/depressed/whatever we previously were, or how happy we previously were.
"Being and non-being create each other.
Difficult and easy support each other.
Long and short define each other.
High and low depend on each other.
Before and after follow each other."
-Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu.
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#33
 2008-07-18, 05:52
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Re: If a drug was made
Read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley. But like I kind of already said, and as other people have said, most of the fun of drugs is the change. I don't think being on something all the time would be that much fun. Being sober is kind of nice sometimes. Living constantly high sounds like a pretty dull existence. How happy we are at any moment in our life is defined by how sad/upset/depressed/whatever we previously were, or how happy we previously were.
That book is amazing by the way.
As previously stated over and over if the high hypothetically never got "boring"/decreased or any of those kind of holes in this idea then I would go with an opiate. I can still function just fine on them but yet somehow feel whole (if that makes any sense).
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#34
 2008-07-18, 06:05
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RosettaStoned 
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Re: If a drug was made
That book is amazing by the way.
As previously stated over and over if the high hypothetically never got "boring"/decreased or any of those kind of holes in this idea then I would go with an opiate. I can still function just fine on them but yet somehow feel whole (if that makes any sense).
Haha, yea dude, Huxley's a pretty smart guy and writes some good ass shit. And opiates would probably be the best choice just because it's got like everything. Euphoria, not caring, just feeling really chill (if you're into that), but yet still able to do things. However, if the side effects were still present, it'd be pretty fuckin' annoying to constantly feel itchy, hahaha.
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#35
 2008-07-18, 08:28
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where is my mind?
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Re: If a drug was made
eccccssstttaaaasssyyy. seriously, why not love everything all the time?
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#36
 2008-07-18, 08:32
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Re: If a drug was made
mdma, no two ways about it.
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#37
 2008-07-18, 12:17
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Re: If a drug was made
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Originally Posted by alex333
actually, i think a good nicotine buzz would be nice. youd still be able to do everything you wanted, could still mix it with drugs, youd still be in control, would enchance almost every aspect of life.
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This would be enjoyable, unless it makes you sick.
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#38
 2008-07-18, 16:07
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Re: If a drug was made
nutmeg, any fuckin day
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#39
 2008-07-18, 16:13
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Re: If a drug was made
Haha, yea dude, Huxley's a pretty smart guy and writes some good ass shit. And opiates would probably be the best choice just because it's got like everything. Euphoria, not caring, just feeling really chill (if you're into that), but yet still able to do things. However, if the side effects were still present, it'd be pretty fuckin' annoying to constantly feel itchy, hahaha.
I read Huxley's Doors of Perception after my first acid trip ever, and since then I've read pretty much all of his work.
Brave New World was one of the reasons I chose to write that paper ironically. Anyway, he's definitely a really good writer.
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#40
 2008-07-18, 16:13
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Re: If a drug was made
I would probably say tramadol.
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#41
 2008-07-19, 00:56
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Re: If a drug was made
but isnt the point of getting high to escape? after awhile it would just become boring.
Its to explore. New worlds never get old.
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#42
 2008-07-19, 01:11
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Re: If a drug was made
Ringer.
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#43
 2008-07-19, 01:15
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Re: If a drug was made
definitely alcohol or maybe a light to medium dose of clonzepam (klonopin)
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#44
 2008-07-19, 01:39
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Re: If a drug was made
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I would probably say tramadol.
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mind me asking why? if your gonna pick opiates, why not pick the best of the best?
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#45
 2008-07-19, 04:23
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mind me asking why? if your gonna pick opiates, why not pick the best of the best?
Yea, unless you haven't done any of the other stronger opiates (not trying to put you down, just saying). Something like oxy (never done boy or any morphine derivative, unless you wanna count codeine because they make that from morphine because it's easier to do that then to just extract codeine) gives you a warm rush and it's way more euphoric.
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#46
 2008-07-19, 06:56
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Re: If a drug was made
Assuming psychosis wasn't part of the deal, amphetamine for sure.
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#47
 2008-07-19, 18:48
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i would like to have a moderate oxycontin perma-lift. then i would just continue to do other drugs whenever i wanted something different.
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