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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-07-17, 21:01
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SublimeNirvana 
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Molly
I bought some Molly (MDMA powder in capsules from some guy at a show. It was dark and we had to do it on the down low so i didn't get to look at them till i got home. It seems like there isn't very much powder at all. I guess my question is if its relatively pure would a good dose of MDMA not look much? And is there anything i can take besides 5-htp that will increase the effectiveness? Also should i rail it or pop it?
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#2
 2008-07-17, 21:08
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Incubustis 
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Re: Molly
You should get a test kit. :) But yes, a normal dose of molly will look pretty small compared to what you might think it should look like. I would take it orally personally. Empty stomach, full glass of water. Save the 5-HTP for the comedown, there is debate about whether or not it strengthens or weakens your roll.
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#3
 2008-07-17, 21:46
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Re: Molly
If you have a scale (even if it's not a mg one), a good dose should show up as .1g
100mg is a good place to start.
Don't snort it OR pop it. Open the capsule and pour it either behind your lip or under your tongue. It'll taste like death, but it's the most efficient method other than IV or plugging. Swallow the capsule afterward just to get whatever residue might be left over.
Enjoy.
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#4
 2008-07-18, 03:28
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Re: Molly
I recently bought what was represented as pure molly, it was in a gelatin caplet and in crystal form, is it possible this was e? When i get my credit card im gona buy myself a marquais test kit from stupid noob, until then any help guys?
Oh and btw sorry for de-railing your thread.
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#5
 2008-07-18, 15:24
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AlCaTrAz 
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Re: Molly
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Originally Posted by hallucinogenic Substance
I recently bought what was represented as pure molly, it was in a gelatin caplet and in crystal form, is it possible this was e? When i get my credit card im gona buy myself a marquais test kit from stupid noob, until then any help guys?
Oh and btw sorry for de-railing your thread.
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It could very well have been.
I've gotten different shades of molly before.
It depends on the purity, etc.
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#6
 2008-07-18, 15:31
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Re: Molly
Yeah, 75-100 mg is a great dose for a first time user. 100mg looks like nothing, too. *tries to think of an example*... errr... well, it isn't very big, anyway...
Edit: and you should pop it. You'll take longer to come up, but when you do it'll last much longer than if you were to snort it. Plus putting stuff up your nose it WRONG!
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#7
 2008-07-18, 15:46
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Re: Molly
After booting molly recently, I really really suggest that. But of course, it would only be after one has verified their shit, and then cleaned the fuck out of it in prep for IV. Slamming random pills into your veins is fucked up. Know your shit.
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#8
 2008-07-18, 16:20
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Re: Molly
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
After booting molly recently, I really really suggest that. But of course, it would only be after one has verified their shit, and then cleaned the fuck out of it in prep for IV. Slamming random pills into your veins is fucked up. Know your shit.
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What was it like?
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#9
 2008-07-18, 16:34
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AlCaTrAz 
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Re: Molly
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
After booting molly recently, I really really suggest that. But of course, it would only be after one has verified their shit, and then cleaned the fuck out of it in prep for IV. Slamming random pills into your veins is fucked up. Know your shit.
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Ruthless, man.
All I've heard from IV MDMA is it is intense.
I assume you enjoyed it.
How was it?
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#10
 2008-07-18, 16:34
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Re: Molly
What was it like?
All I remember is it was intense. I also kept going with them too, and things got kind of crazy after that. Total 300mg IV after 200mg snorted, and then peaking on that, my brother comes over touting shards, and from there, shit's nuts. I fucked up and took my SNRI the same day, totally without even fucking thinking. Yeah. Bad fucking time man. Real bad. I was out in the woods for a week talking to the treeples.
I mean the molly part was all good, and then shards right on top was cool too, but then not being able to really come down was nuts. I mean, I came down from the molly, but the whole trip shifted, and it was really sinister and fucked up. I really like to think that the things I saw were from the drugs, and are not part of reality. It is better to think so, for sanity sake.
Talking to yourself is crazy enough, but talking to beings that you feel? Entities that you can only FEEL? It was almost the materialization of emotions, to be general. I don't know, the whole thing was fucked up, and I still have a bit of physical recovery left yet, as well as significant psychological trauma to try and work through before I can even really begin to talk about it.
It was seriously fucked.
My wife was none too pleased either. Imagine your crazy haired wild eyed husband, awake for days on end, rambling about things you don't have a fucking clue about, and talking about people you can't see.
Yeah, I know, I bitch and preach about safety, and in the end, what? I end up in the woods for a week talking to trees. I think I fucked something up.
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#11
 2008-07-18, 16:43
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AlCaTrAz 
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Re: Molly
All I remember is it was intense. I also kept going with them too, and things got kind of crazy after that. Total 300mg IV after 200mg snorted, and then peaking on that, my brother comes over touting shards, and from there, shit's nuts. I fucked up and took my SNRI the same day, totally without even fucking thinking. Yeah. Bad fucking time man. Real bad. I was out in the woods for a week after talking to the treeples.
I mean the molly part was all good, and then shards right on top was cool too, but then not being able to really come down was nuts. I mean, I came down from the molly, but the whole trip shifted, and it was really sinister and fucked up. I really like to think that the things I saw were from the drugs, and are not part of reality. It is better to think so, for sanity sake.
Talking to yourself is crazy enough, but talking to beings that you feel? Entities that you can only FEEL? It was almost the materialization of emotions, to be general. I don't know, the whole thing was fucked up, and I still have a bit of physical recovery left yet, as well as significant psychological trauma to try and work through before I can even really begin to talk about it.
It was seriously fucked.
My wife was none too pleased either. Imagine your crazy haired wild eyed husband, awake for days on end, rambling about things you don't have a fucking clue about, and talking about people you can't see.
Shit man sounds pretty intense.
Taking that SNRI was probably a bad idea, but like you said, you didnt' even think about it.
I'm sure those shards rocked your shit after doing banging that molly.
I'm such a pussy when it comes to stims and sleep, if I'm up more than a day or so I get fuckin' maxed out. If I wasn't able to come down for so long I would have been so ready to go to sleep by then.
Best of luck to you in your future re-examination of the events and thoughts from your trip.
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#12
 2008-07-18, 17:01
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Re: Molly
Shit man sounds pretty intense.
Taking that SNRI was probably a bad idea, but like you said, you didnt' even think about it.
I'm sure those shards rocked your shit after doing banging that molly.
I'm such a pussy when it comes to stims and sleep, if I'm up more than a day or so I get fuckin' maxed out. If I wasn't able to come down for so long I would have been so ready to go to sleep by then.
Best of luck to you in your future re-examination of the events and thoughts from your trip.
My shit has always been fucked up anyway, but now since I got hurt six years ago, sleep is a strange thing to me. I can only sleep after usually at least a couple days, and by then I am dead, and just fall over. But before that, I can't actually fall asleep or stay asleep without being jerked awake by pain over and over. I fucking hate my leg. It has caused me untold amounts of grief and tears and anger and frustration.
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#13
 2008-07-18, 19:44
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SublimeNirvana 
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Re: Molly
StupidNood- have you tried GBL or GHB for sleep? It can help regulate your sleep schedule somewhat.
But the Molly was shit or what not enough because i didn't feel much of anything. I put it under my tongue (disgusting!) and but i think i only got a threshold dose because i didn't get ANY euphoria just some augmented tactile sensations. This is the second time ive done MDMA and I've yet to really feel much. Do some people have a natural tolerance?
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#14
 2008-07-18, 21:59
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Re: Molly
shouldve fucking snorted it....
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#15
 2008-07-19, 20:11
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Re: Molly
Are you 100% it was pure molly?
should've fucking snorted it...
Not only does it hurt, but it's fucking TERRIBLE on your nose. The bioavailability nasally is not higher than sublingually. If it didn't work under the tongue, it would not have worked more efficiently nasally. That's all there is to it.
Snorting everything =/= best method.
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#16
 2008-07-19, 20:15
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Re: Molly
Are you 100% it was pure molly?
Not only does it hurt, but it's fucking TERRIBLE on your nose. The bioavailability nasally is not higher than sublingually. If it didn't work under the tongue, it would not have worked more efficiently nasally. That's all there is to it.
Snorting everything =/= best method.
except that the powder in the middle of the "pile" under his tongue probably didnt even touch the inside of his mouth... And unless hes a regular snorter i cant see it doing any lasting damage.
So yeah, ill agree that sublingually is a better method, PROVIDED it is done properly. Nasally is pretty hard to fuck up.
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#17
 2008-07-19, 20:20
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Re: Molly
So yeah, ill agree that sublingually is a better method, PROVIDED it is done properly. Nasally is pretty hard to fuck up.
Personally I think the nasty taste is a lot better than the fucking ungodly burn of molly nasally.
No matter how he put it in his mouth he should have felt SOMETHING.
Which is why I asked if he's positive it was 100% pure and not cut with something.
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#18
 2008-07-20, 02:05
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where is my mind?
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Re: Molly
i usually buy .5 and just dip it (lick my finger and dip into bag, repeat) all night until its done for. works perfectly and ensures a good night :)
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#19
 2008-07-20, 03:51
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HEAD 
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Re: Molly
OP-sniff.
stupid noob -
I've seen people max out on mdma and shard...You'll never be(feel) the same after that buzz.
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#20
 2008-07-20, 04:35
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Re: Molly
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Originally Posted by HEAD
OP-sniff.
stupid noob -
I've seen people max out on mdma and shard...You'll never be(feel) the same after that buzz.
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I am doing much better now actually.
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#21
 2008-07-20, 05:08
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Lumocolor 
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Re: Molly
Are you 100% it was pure molly?
Not only does it hurt, but it's fucking TERRIBLE on your nose. The bioavailability nasally is not higher than sublingually. If it didn't work under the tongue, it would not have worked more efficiently nasally. That's all there is to it.
Snorting everything =/= best method.
I never get that rush you do from snorting when I pop the shit. As long as you don't send too much up your nose for too long you'll be fine.
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