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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-07-15, 06:18
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East Bay, CA (Bay Area)
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Calea Zacatechichi (Leaf of God)
Ok, I've been getting really interested in my dreams as of late. I even started to record them.
Anyways, I'm extremely interested in trying this plant. I am going to to do it, I'm just asking for some help with a few things.
1) How would you prepare it (smoke, tea, or capsules)?
2) Dose?
3) What source would you use? I'm pretty sure I could find the plant itself, but then I'd probably have to do an extraction of some sort. Since this is a legal plant, I'm fairly sure that I can ask people for a good online source.
Thanks for any help, especially sources.
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#2
 2008-07-15, 06:24
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Re: Calea Zacatechichi (Leaf of God)
Edit: Get on AIM. My screen name is in my profile.
http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductUID=1468&ProductCode=DHL-1OZ
If I were you, I'd buy some of the leaf there, and once you get it cut it up into little pieces.
Then I'd recommend you getting the 'Creativity' pillow. It's got a mixture of herbs and plants in it that promote psychoactive sleeping effects, such as sedation, dream enhancement, and easier recollection.
Once you get the pillow I'd cut it open a little and add the Calea cuttings into the pillow.
You're supposed to microwave the pillow for a short period of time. It'll strengthen the aromas in the pillow, plus it feels good to sleep with it on your upper chest.
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#3
 2008-07-15, 06:49
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Aerogone 
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Re: Calea Zacatechichi (Leaf of God)
Make a strong drink and reduce it to something you can do in one gulp.
I can block out nasty tastes well, but many i know are little pussies and at times even refuse to finish shit because it tastes nasty.
So if you can manage the taste of this tea.
Do what i do; make a nice 1/2 oz brew in a large mug, and let it stand for at least half an hour. Then strain through cheesecloth/funnel or a wire mesh strainer. Begin to drink.
If you have a pipe, after you have finished the tea, smoke a good sized amount, pack and clear the bowl about 6 times.
Lie down comfortably and proceed to take a nap.
Dont go with Iamshaman.... they lie and tend to over hype effects because all they want is your money.
Go with nomad, or bouncing bear from my experience.
But i think alot of the herbals come from one importer, one distributer or one grower, as the back in stock dates are commonly exactly the same for almost every botanical shop of that nature.
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#4
 2008-07-15, 07:06
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Chemical Eudaemonia 
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Re: Calea Zacatechichi (Leaf of God)
I will bet that shit tastes like ass if you try and smoke it, and same goes as well for tea. The dream pillow may work but I think not in the same way as the pharmacological effect of the plant itself, since the pillow produces effect mostly from stimulating the sense of smell which somehow promotes more awareness during sleep.
I would cap that shit if I were you, then you'd be getting every possible effect from the plant.
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#5
 2008-07-15, 07:06
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Re: Calea Zacatechichi (Leaf of God)
Apparently the tea is very nasty, so I would powder it, capsule and take a couple at a time. Also smoke some before bed.
This stuff makes it easier to remember dream consciousness. To experience this, stop smoking pot everyday if you do. This effect also makes me wonder if consuming it regularly would make it easier to comprehend and remember dmt and salvia trips.
Next time I get a hold of some I'm planning on doing some experiments.
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#6
 2008-07-15, 07:10
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Chemical Eudaemonia 
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Re: Calea Zacatechichi (Leaf of God)
To experience this, stop smoking pot everyday if you do. This effect also makes me wonder if consuming it regularly would make it easier to comprehend and remember dmt and salvia trips.
you might want to try piracetam and sinichuichi for stuff like that
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#7
 2008-07-15, 07:14
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Re: Calea Zacatechichi (Leaf of God)
Ingest it and get a pillow :D
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#8
 2008-07-15, 07:32
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Aerogone 
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Re: Calea Zacatechichi (Leaf of God)
you might want to try piracetam and sinichuichi for stuff like that
No. I have been taking 1-3 grams/day of the first for a year or so now, trust me.
as for the second, from reading the reports on erowid, several days of muscular pain sounds fucking great.
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And OP dont be such a fucking pussy, just chug that shit.... it not that bad.
Ignoring bad taste is just like ignoring a light pain, just push it out of your consciousness.
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Bear with me and i will teach you a little trick:
*mentally run yourself through the action: chug chug swallow
*Relax all your muscles, as you sigh(as you would with a tired, sad, grief, ect... type mindset) and exhale a lung full (this also prevents the aftertaste to some degree) relax...
*just like a computer, perform your set of motions, without thought or emotion, still in a relaxed and dissociated mindset.
*See .... the taste is there but it is so far away that it just doesn't even mean anything...
* inhale, and refocus your eyes.
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#9
 2008-07-15, 07:42
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Chemical Eudaemonia 
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Re: Calea Zacatechichi (Leaf of God)
No. I have been taking 1-3 grams/day of the first for a year or so now, trust me.
as for the second, from reading the reports on erowid, several days of muscular pain sounds fucking great.  =
Pain is relative, and you really suck at statistics if you think reading 2 or 3 reports is enough to conclude any hard data on.
Don't be a dumbass.
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