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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-07-15, 04:53
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Salvia sucks
This was a few weeks back since I didn't have an account.
I was with my girlfriend and old friend from middleschool and we bought some purple sticky salvia, which was recommended to us, it was the 60x (15x).
My friend took it with a hit of my weed as he said that was how it was supposed to be taken, and he fell over drooling for like 10 minutes and explained how he was living inside of this picture he saw on the wall. I was like sweet this is gonna be cool.
I took a hit with no weed and held it in forever and....nothing happened. I took a leftover hit from my girlfriend, which it worked for, and nothing happened.
The next week I tried taking a larger hit out of the homemade waterfall bong, which works awesome for weed. I held it for what seemed like a minute and the room turned somewhat sideways, and the fan that was blowing on me felt like it was blowing the heavyest air ever on me, and I laughed for like 5 minutes. Got sleepy and somewhat of a headache and that was it.
It sucked.
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#2
 2008-07-15, 05:01
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Re: Salvia sucks
Yeah, so what.
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#3
 2008-07-15, 05:08
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Re: Salvia sucks
I remember my attempt at Salvia. I sit for 30 fucking minutes trying to fucking think about why the shit did nothing when i chewed it.
So i make a bong and sit there and smoke it. Time goes a little quicker, and I felt a little happier. DEFINITLY NOT WHAT I WANTED. I WANTED FUCKING HALLUCIONATIONS FFS.
other than that it was k.
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#4
 2008-07-15, 05:12
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Re: Salvia sucks
i tripped out and saw elvs.
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#5
 2008-07-15, 05:13
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Re: Salvia sucks
It sucked because what you bought was bullshit and not salvia divinorum. Next time know what and from whom you are buying.
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#6
 2008-07-15, 05:15
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Re: Salvia sucks
Really it 5X sent me to the fucking moon.
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#7
 2008-07-15, 05:37
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Re: Salvia sucks
Salvia works for me but I don't find it very fun. Just make sure you are using a torch lighter. lol one time I saw myself in my mind and all of a sudden I turned into a pile of cheeseburgers.
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#8
 2008-07-15, 05:46
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Re: Salvia sucks
Used a torch lighter. And I bought it from a head shop....
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#9
 2008-07-15, 05:48
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Re: Salvia sucks
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Originally Posted by eBagger
Used a torch lighter. And I bought it from a head shop....
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Ask for you money back and tell them it is bunk. You should be able to easily get effects from even plain Saliva D. and a regular lighter on one hit.
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#10
 2008-07-15, 05:48
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mari juana 
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Re: Salvia sucks
probably sucked due to purple sticky salvia.
salvia is crazy and weird.
i smoked a bit once and was thrown into this weird trance as i slowly walked towards this.. 'spirit' way on the other side of the room.. i didn't get to it in time, or didn't smoke enough..
and it has an annoying body buzz, but a little bit of alcohol helped with that.
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#11
 2008-07-15, 07:20
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Re: Salvia sucks
maybe you just dont have enough brain cells for it to act on, you stupid faggot
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#12
 2008-07-15, 11:56
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Re: Salvia sucks
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Originally Posted by Chemical Eudaemonia
maybe you just dont have enough brain cells for it to act on, you stupid faggot
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i love this guy
oh wait no i dont hes a fucking prick
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#13
 2008-07-15, 17:25
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Re: Salvia sucks
you gotta start with somthing smaller like 10x in a bong then go to 20x. not everybody breaks through the first few times so do it again. also you probly got riped off with the salvia if you didnt get it online. hey if you realy wana trip get some fucking acid you prick!
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#14
 2008-07-15, 18:47
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Re: Salvia sucks
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Originally Posted by Kre8ive1
you gotta start with somthing smaller like 10x in a bong then go to 20x. not everybody breaks through the first few times so do it again. also you probly got riped off with the salvia if you didnt get it online. hey if you realy wana trip get some fucking acid you prick!
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Wow, I've only seen this one post by you but you're obviously
a) A fucking idiot
b) A complete fucking asshole
What does that post even mean? You don't have to start with something smaller. Why would you? It'd just do less. I started on 25x, which was awesome. 15x was okay, but nothing on 25. If you don't break through you did it wrong, or didn't do enough. You probably DIDN'T get ripped off from a headshop, but probably would online. And I'm not even going to start on your last point, but it actually makes me want to fly to whereever the fuck you live and kick you right in the face.
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#15
 2008-07-15, 19:02
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Re: Salvia sucks
It is pointless and pricey. But it clears your mind when you are confused or troubled n shit. Don't do it to trip, do it to feel good. It like resets your mind.
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#16
 2008-07-15, 21:30
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Re: Salvia sucks
you guys all suck, salvia isnt even real
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#17
 2008-07-15, 21:43
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Re: Salvia sucks
Wow, I've only seen this one post by you but you're obviously
a) A fucking idiot
b) A complete fucking asshole
What does that post even mean? You don't have to start with something smaller. Why would you? It'd just do less. I started on 25x, which was awesome. 15x was okay, but nothing on 25. If you don't break through you did it wrong, or didn't do enough. You probably DIDN'T get ripped off from a headshop, but probably would online. And I'm not even going to start on your last point, but it actually makes me want to fly to whereever the fuck you live and kick you right in the face.
I started out with 20x, tried three times, got nothing. Then we got some 6x, and I did that four times successfully, 2 of the times breaking through to another dimension.
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#18
 2008-07-15, 21:43
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Re: Salvia sucks
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Originally Posted by niggahead
you guys all suck, salvia isnt even real
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This guy knows.
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#19
 2008-07-15, 22:21
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Re: Salvia sucks
i got some 10x im waiting to try
my friend did it and he didn't even break through but he loved it. he wants to try it again.
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#20
 2008-07-15, 23:26
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Re: Salvia sucks
Thats because you gotta use a jet lighter and hold a big hit in for atleast 30 seconds, then you sit and relax closing your eyes helps alot and let the trip commense.
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#21
 2008-07-16, 02:08
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Re: Salvia sucks
I tripped the fuck out with a shitty bong and a bic. However, a salvia trip is not something I'm in any hurry to repeat.
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#22
 2008-07-16, 03:14
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Re: Salvia sucks
People I talk to have mixed reactions to it. Some people get hot and try to take off all their clothes. Some become completely unable to function, often falling over drooling, others have terrible times in which they moan and gasp and seem to be terrified.
I plan on trying some.
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#23
 2008-07-16, 03:39
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Re: Salvia sucks
One friend told me he felt he was his room and he thought the fan was trying to kill him.
What Ive heard is that you hallucinate horrible things. Awesome. I want to try it.
By the way, what the hell with that guy who saw himself in his mind transforming into a pile of cheeseburgers, I never would've stopped laughing.
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#24
 2008-07-16, 03:46
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Re: Salvia sucks
I have to agree. I tried Salvia once and just didn't like it.
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#25
 2008-07-16, 04:55
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Re: Salvia sucks
it was your first time, you used shitty headshop salvia and a shitty homemade bong and probably didn't even do it right anyway.
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#26
 2008-07-16, 05:02
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Re: Salvia sucks
It sucks because it scared the hell out of me and made me want to kill myself:)
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#27
 2008-07-16, 10:31
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Re: Salvia sucks
It's a very simple fact: If you didn't trip from salvia, you're doing it wrong.
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#28
 2008-07-16, 10:35
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Re: Salvia sucks
She might just not like you, you know.
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#29
 2008-07-16, 18:21
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Re: Salvia sucks
wtf is up with all these bogus stories of turning into cheeseburgers...
i've never hallucinated on salvia once, all that happens is an intense mind fuck and body high, feeling sweaty and hot, and drooling all over yourself while laughing hysterically at the same time.
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#30
 2008-07-16, 18:58
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Re: Salvia sucks
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Originally Posted by automaticmojo
wtf is up with all these bogus stories of turning into cheeseburgers...
i've never hallucinated on salvia once, all that happens is an intense mind fuck and body high, feeling sweaty and hot, and drooling all over yourself while laughing hysterically at the same time.
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Just because you didn't break through doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
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#31
 2008-07-16, 20:36
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Re: Salvia sucks
Just because you didn't break through doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
oh no.. i've most definately broken through, i've gotten to the point of blacking out...but every time i never get any visuals just an intense mindfuck, it's way more of a dissociative than a hallucinogen, i think. so stfu and quit acting like you know what you're talking about.
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#32
 2008-07-16, 20:44
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Re: Salvia sucks
oh no.. i've most definately broken through, i've gotten to the point of blacking out...but every time i never get any visuals just an intense mindfuck, it's way more of a dissociative than a hallucinogen, i think. so stfu and quit acting like you know what you're talking about.
Don't speak for everyone then. People do not experience Salvia in the same way.
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#33
 2008-07-16, 21:00
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Re: Salvia sucks
Don't speak for everyone then. People do not experience Salvia in the same way.
um... am i speaking for anyone besides myself..no...so next time you make a post please use common sense.
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#34
 2008-07-16, 21:03
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Re: Salvia sucks
um... am i speaking for anyone besides myself..no...so next time you make a post please use common sense.
You were speaking for other people though.
wtf is up with all these bogus stories of turning into cheeseburgers...
You called other peoples' trips who had visuals bogus. Stop attacking me; I didn't even say anything derogatory to you.
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#35
 2008-07-16, 21:09
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Re: Salvia sucks
um... am i speaking for anyone besides myself..no...so next time you make a post please use common sense.
Like the poster above me said:
wtf is up with all these bogus stories...
You accuse people of lying about their experience just because you never hallucinated off of what is considered to be the strongest hallucinogen known to exist.
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#36
 2008-07-16, 21:39
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Re: Salvia sucks
oh no.. i've most definately broken through, i've gotten to the point of blacking out...but every time i never get any visuals just an intense mindfuck, it's way more of a dissociative than a hallucinogen, i think. so stfu and quit acting like you know what you're talking about.
Um.. you definitely fucking hallucinate..
But it's nice to know that you can't even smoke fucking Salvia properly. That's a big LOL.
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#37
 2008-07-16, 22:49
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Re: Salvia sucks
your right i did come off as if saying those experiences weren't true even though they are, what i meant was that those effects were way different from what i get, the only thing that happens to me is feeling entities, laughing, drooling, etc. i basically meant to say that those stories are crazy instead of bogus...and to feds in town, not hard to smoke salvia, torch lighter, 30 seconds,pretty easy.
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#38
 2008-07-16, 23:15
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Re: Salvia sucks
You don't hallucinate. I've been completely fucked on it over 20 times, your body becomes too retarded to focus on shit, but that doesn't mean you're hallucinating. You're looking too far into it, and I call bull shit with the cheeseburger too.
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#39
 2008-07-16, 23:22
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Re: Salvia sucks
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Originally Posted by irresponsible activist
You don't hallucinate. I've been completely fucked on it over 20 times, your body becomes too retarded to focus on shit, but that doesn't mean you're hallucinating. You're looking too far into it, and I call bull shit with the cheeseburger too.
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Wow i guess me and you get the same effects but everyone else hallucinates, weird, huh?
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#40
 2008-07-16, 23:23
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Re: Salvia sucks
Wow i guess me and you get the same effects but everyone else hallucinates, weird, huh?
Yea, it sounds like this is their first time trying anything besides pot, and they don't really know how to describe what happens when they smoke salvia...it's hard to explain anyways.
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#41
 2008-07-16, 23:31
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Re: Salvia sucks
Yea, it sounds like this is their first time trying anything besides pot, and they don't really know how to describe what happens when they smoke salvia...it's hard to explain anyways.
That's not necessarily true, I mean I believe that people hallucinate.. but some of it (like the cheeseburger one) sounds like the shit i hear when really dumb people tell me they took shrooms and talked to gnomes and shit. i mean there's not one thing about salvia that reminded me of a hallucinogen, its in a whole class of it's own its just a complete mindfuck/dissociative. the only remote "psychedelic" thing that happened to me was blacking out and then waking up 10 seconds later feeling as if i was reborn and seeing everything around me as if it was new. like i was a child or something
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#42
 2008-07-16, 23:33
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Re: Salvia sucks
That's not necessarily true, I mean I believe that people hallucinate.. but some of it (like the cheeseburger one) sounds like the shit i hear when really dumb people tell me they took shrooms and talked to gnomes and shit.
I've taken shrooms, and I talked to my cat...I was convinced he could understand me as he obeyed my thought commands. It's hard for me to classify salvia as being a hallucinogen, it's nothing like taking shrooms.
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#43
 2008-07-16, 23:37
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Re: Salvia sucks
I've taken shrooms, and I talked to my cat...I was convinced he could understand me as he obeyed my thought commands. It's hard for me to classify salvia as being a hallucinogen, it's nothing like taking shrooms.
lol yeah but it's not like you were talking to inanimate objects that don't exist. yeah shrooms actually give me visions unlike salvia (which leaves me temporarily retarted for 5 minutes) does anyone else here laugh uncontrollably from salvia? i dont know why this is but i feel it's because we are so confused and slightly scared with what's going on that we just laugh to make ourselves feel better and so we don't have to think about all the weirdness thats going on inside our heads.. it's kinda like a defense mechanism or something.. i dont know how to explain but whatever
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#44
 2008-07-17, 01:46
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Re: Salvia sucks
If LSD is a hydrogen bomb, Salvia is the eschaton immanetizing. ;)
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#45
 2008-07-17, 02:05
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Re: Salvia sucks
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Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box
If LSD is a hydrogen bomb, Salvia is the eschaton immanetizing. ;)
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Hail Gruad!
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#46
 2008-07-17, 02:40
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Re: Salvia sucks
l yeah shrooms actually give me visions unlike salvia (which leaves me temporarily retarted for 5 minutes) does anyone else here laugh uncontrollably from salvia?
Yea, my friend couldn't stop laughing, he couldn't breath in till he calmed down.
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#47
 2008-07-17, 03:49
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Re: Salvia sucks
salvia. Favorite drug evar.
i took 2 huge hits and for 30 minutes tripped balls. i remember sitting in a chair and then all of a sudden im on the floor across the room underneath the couch. No idea how i got there. 
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#48
 2008-07-17, 04:36
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Re: Salvia sucks
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Originally Posted by irresponsible activist
You don't hallucinate. I've been completely fucked on it over 20 times, your body becomes too retarded to focus on shit, but that doesn't mean you're hallucinating. You're looking too far into it, and I call bull shit with the cheeseburger too.
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You're an idiot for saying that just because you don't hallucinate, no one does. I know for a fact that I hallucinated, as I saw things when my eyes were closed. Now, unless I suddenly had the ability to see a two-dimensional world through my eyelids, it was a hallucination. Another time, I went to a place where I was looking at large, colorful shapes, forgetting all about this existence and having taken a drug. Do you want to tell me that that place actually exists, that I physically went there, or are you willing to concede that although you didn't get hallucinations, others do? Read the trip reports on erowid for christ's sake!
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#49
 2008-07-17, 04:41
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Re: Salvia sucks
erowid for christ's sake!
I should have specified or clarified a bit more. I had eye visuals, open eyed visuals, but I did not think that I was a cheeseburger or any of that stupid shit. It's too hard to explain salvia anyways.
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#50
 2008-07-17, 07:16
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Re: Salvia sucks
The first time I tried it, I felt my head moving down in a spiral sort of motion. As soon as I realized it sucked, the trip ended.
I threw the rest of my 20x in the trash, but on a whim decided to just smoke the rest, even if it wouldn't do anything special. I grabbed the baggie, loaded up the bong, and watched the posters and other art on my wall melt for 10 minutes.
Interesting to try once (if for nothing else but to dispel the hype), but not a sound investment. I guess one can always fall back on "it's legal for a reason."
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#51
 2008-07-17, 07:33
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Re: Salvia sucks
i dunno about you guys but i like anything that totally fucks me up
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#52
 2008-07-17, 08:12
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Re: Salvia sucks
i dont know why this is but i feel it's because we are so confused and slightly scared with what's going on that we just laugh to make ourselves feel better and so we don't have to think about all the weirdness thats going on inside our heads.. it's kinda like a defense mechanism or something.. i dont know how to explain but whatever
Yeah, I didn't think it was supposed to make you laugh, but I laughed pretty hard for a solid minute or 2. Everytime my girlfriends roomate would look at me it was just hilarious. I didn't have that good of a time though because I was more trying to figure out wtf the effects of this shit was supposed to be.
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#53
 2008-07-17, 19:24
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Re: Salvia sucks
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Originally Posted by JewlyRodger
The first time I tried it, I felt my head moving down in a spiral sort of motion. As soon as I realized it sucked, the trip ended.
I threw the rest of my 20x in the trash, but on a whim decided to just smoke the rest, even if it wouldn't do anything special. I grabbed the baggie, loaded up the bong, and watched the posters and other art on my wall melt for 10 minutes.
Interesting to try once (if for nothing else but to dispel the hype), but not a sound investment. I guess one can always fall back on "it's legal for a reason."
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Once again, just because you didn't have a powerful experience doesn't mean the drug isn't powerful. Salvia tends to weed out the people who are just looking for a quick fuck-up (although I'm not insinuating that you are one of those people), so sometimes it takes a few times to get a blow-your-fucking-mind-to-another-dimension experience.
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#54
 2008-07-17, 19:27
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Re: Salvia sucks
Yeah, I didn't think it was supposed to make you laugh, but I laughed pretty hard for a solid minute or 2. Everytime my girlfriends roomate would look at me it was just hilarious. I didn't have that good of a time though because I was more trying to figure out wtf the effects of this shit was supposed to be.
you have 1 problem on why you didn't get high
you got purple sticky salvia, i mean come on wtf....that shit sounds like a scam to begin with and the extracts aren't as strong as they say they are... you need to buy salvia from a reputable vendor that actually has really good salvia extracts, when i used to smoke salvia i bought mine from:
www.gaianbotanicals.com
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