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| Mad Scientists Science and Mathematics discussion-- theories, arguments, citations, proofs and pudding. |
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# 1

2008-07-14, 04:21
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CO2 into oceans
How long does it take for a certain amount of Co2, to be absorbed into the ocean? And what is chemically happening?
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# 2

2008-07-14, 12:21
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the happy land of australia
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Re: CO2 into oceans
CO2+H2O -> H2CO3
H2CO3+H2O -> 2H3O+ + CO3(2-)
carbon dioxide dissolves into the water to form hydrogen carbonate, which is slightly acid in water. the process is a slow one, dependent on many factors like concentration in the air, temperature, how much is dissolved in the water already...
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# 3

2008-07-15, 09:58
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Exploding head syndrome
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Re: CO2 into oceans
depends on factors.
though there is research done that predicts the oceans would not be as good of a carbon sink as first thought, as the warming of the planet would decrease the ability of the CO2 to form H2CO3
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2008-07-15, 12:35
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the happy land of australia
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Re: CO2 into oceans
its also a bad thing, as increasing acidity in the oceans causes issue. whats already happening is coral is dieing. im not a marine biologist, but id imagine that acidity isn't good for fish.
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2008-07-15, 12:49
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Exploding head syndrome
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Re: CO2 into oceans
yep as far as i know, there are some species of coral here that are turning white already
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# 6

2008-07-16, 12:57
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Re: CO2 into oceans
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Originally Posted by Mantikore
depends on factors.
though there is research done that predicts the oceans would not be as good of a carbon sink as first thought, as the warming of the planet would decrease the ability of the CO2 to form H2CO3
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Henry's Law
Carbon dioxide will react further to produce limestone and used by alge and such for the same things.
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2008-07-16, 15:44
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the happy land of australia
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Re: CO2 into oceans
there is more than the henrys law equilibrium at work in this. there are equilibrium between the dissolved carbon dioxide and carbonates of all forms in the water, and equilibrium between the limestone and carbonate. you could model the behaviour with some effort, but all the conditions change so much in the ocean and atmosphere it would get very complicated very quickly.
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# 8

2008-07-16, 18:04
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Re: CO2 into oceans
Pick up a fucking enviro chem textbook, this has been flogged to death in the research literature.
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2008-07-21, 05:21
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Re: CO2 into oceans
this is what i thought, slow process and would increase acidity of oceans
but could there be a way to increaes reaction time on a small scale?
like in a fish tank or a water heater size container?
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2008-07-21, 13:34
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the happy land of australia
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Re: CO2 into oceans
what are you trying to do?
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#11
 2008-07-23, 03:42
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Re: CO2 into oceans
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Originally Posted by RAOVQ
CO2+H2O -> H2CO3
H2CO3+H2O -> 2H3O+ + CO3(2-)
carbon dioxide dissolves into the water to form hydrogen carbonate, which is slightly acid in water. the process is a slow one, dependent on many factors like concentration in the air, temperature, how much is dissolved in the water already...
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what he said
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#12
 2008-07-23, 04:14
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Nibroc 
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Re: CO2 into oceans
what he said
Nice pay to up your post count, do you even understand what he said?
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#13
 2008-07-23, 04:25
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Re: CO2 into oceans
Actually there is a DIFFERENT way of storing CO2 in oceans. You pump it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down deep, where the pressure is so great that the CO2 becomes liquid. And then you store it underwater in giant lakes (its density is ~1.03g/cm^3 so it sinks)
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#14
 2008-07-24, 03:24
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royce.beat.man 
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Re: CO2 into oceans
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
Actually there is a DIFFERENT way of storing CO2 in oceans. You pump it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down deep, where the pressure is so great that the CO2 becomes liquid. And then you store it underwater in giant lakes (its density is ~1.03g/cm^3 so it sinks)
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Yes that could happen, but it would be difficult to get equipmwnt down to where the pressure crushes GAS and then the acidity shoots up, killing all the life that cant tolerate the pH levels
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#15
 2008-07-24, 19:12
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Re: CO2 into oceans
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Originally Posted by RAOVQ
what are you trying to do?
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burn you with his carbonic acid   
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