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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
# 1

2008-07-13, 22:38
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How can I convince my friend to take LSD
He's got a good, cheap source, but for some reason the bastard won't believe me when I tell him he doesn't want to miss this chance. All of his other friends are telling him "if you take acid you'll regret it for the rest of your life/go crazy/kill yourself" and who knows what else. Since I'm the only one who's telling him it can't hurt him, I'm fighting a losing battle.
I don't know - is he right? Is it a bad idea to drop acid? We had planned to trip together, but he's getting cold feet. Maybe if some of you could post personal experiences with it...? I don't know. Any advice is appreciated. 
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# 2

2008-07-13, 22:50
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
It's not a good idea to coax someone into doing something they were initially reluctant to do. Especially acid. He could have a bad trip if he doesn't want to do it, but you pressure him into it.
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# 3

2008-07-13, 22:54
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
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Originally Posted by RichardPryor
It's not a good idea to coax someone into doing something they were initially reluctant to do. Especially acid. He could have a bad trip if he doesn't want to do it, but you pressure him into it.
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Yeah, I thought about that. I don't want to pressure him into it, I just want to assure him that just because his cracked-out drug addict cousins claim acid makes your brain melt doesn't mean it's true. He was initially very excited, but other people have kind of beaten that out of him.
I normally would just take it myself - I always prefer being alone anyway - but the catch is, if he doesn't get any I don't either. 
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# 4

2008-07-13, 22:58
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Why don't you just get to him to get it for you? Who gives a shit if he wants to miss out on a good opportunity?
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# 5

2008-07-13, 23:22
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
dont force him into it. i chose to do acid by myself but i greatly regret it now. i feel as if im watching my life from halfway between 1st and 3rd person from like the back of my head. i have a strange perception of everything in the world, as if i feel im not fully in this reallity but halfway unconciously somewhere else. my friends do things that i now view as pointless but i would love to still feel optimistic and excited about and now the only people i hang with are my girl and a few stoner friends. all we do is now is get stoned, and its not even fun anymore. i just want to feel like i did before i started smoking daily and doing cid. lot of people say cid and mushies made them really appreciate life and realize how good it is and how lucky they are but im left with this feeling of pointlesness and that all my feelings are the result of chemical activity in my brain and so is therfore as pointless as the joy of mdma and will inevitably be gone and ill feel like shit.
i dont know wether this is down to the cid or the weed or a combo or the fact iv now dropped out of skool and am now living at home doing fuck all and unable to get a job. i dnt even want one as il just spend my money on weed which probs aint good for me
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#6
 2008-07-13, 23:39
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Puck 
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
i dont know wether this is down to the cid or the weed or a combo or the fact iv now dropped out of skool and am now living at home doing fuck all and unable to get a job. i dnt even want one as il just spend my money on weed which probs aint good for me
Well judging by your grammar, I can tell that you've dropped out of school. You're bumming off of your parents, not bothering to get an education or even work enough to support your own sorry ass?
It wasn't the acid or the marijuana that made you fail at life. You need to stop blaming the drugs and actually inspect your own consciousness until you've realized that YOU are the one to blame.
You are in complete control of your mind, no matter how much you think you can't.
Huff Raid, because you're a burden on your parents and the rest of society, you worthless piece of shit.
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#7
 2008-07-13, 23:39
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
i dont know wether this is down to the cid or the weed or a combo or the fact iv now dropped out of skool and am now living at home doing fuck all and unable to get a job. i dnt even want one as il just spend my money on weed which probs aint good for me
It's probably the being a failure part.
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#8
 2008-07-13, 23:40
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556 
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
dont. lsd is no joke, especially for someone who is reluctant in trying it. leave your friend be and let him make his own choices.. how does that sound
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# 9

2008-07-13, 23:42
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Don't talk him into that shit, if anything goes wrong it's on you. Just get him to get it for you, find some sources of info online about Acid (pros AND cons) educate the man and let him make the decision. Let him be your sitter while you trip maybe?
Also, tell the retards telling him it'll ruin his life/make him insane if he drops once to be a little more open minded and pull the sticks out of their asses and let people make their own decisions and mind their own business..especially about something they obviously know NOTHING about.
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#10
 2008-07-13, 23:44
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Well judging by your grammar, I can tell that you've dropped out of school. You're bumming off of your parents, not bothering to get an education or even work enough to support your own sorry ass?
It wasn't the acid or the marijuana that made you fail at life. You need to stop blaming the drugs and actually inspect your own consciousness until you've realized that YOU are the one to blame.
You are in complete control of your mind, no matter how much you think you can't.
Huff Raid, because you're a burden on your parents and the rest of society, you worthless piece of shit.
your name backwards sounds like cup.
people put there balls inside you
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#11
 2008-07-13, 23:47
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556 
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Well judging by your grammar, I can tell that you've dropped out of school. You're bumming off of your parents, not bothering to get an education or even work enough to support your own sorry ass?
It wasn't the acid or the marijuana that made you fail at life. You need to stop blaming the drugs and actually inspect your own consciousness until you've realized that YOU are the one to blame.
You are in complete control of your mind, no matter how much you think you can't.
Huff Raid, because you're a burden on your parents and the rest of society, you worthless piece of shit.
pucky puck puck ya fuck my dude how the fuck are things goin in your realm
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#12
 2008-07-13, 23:48
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Terrible troll or just failure at life idiot?
I can't tell.
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#13
 2008-07-13, 23:50
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Puck 
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Troll.
I have no useful information to contribute to this thread, except we each (despite the government saying we don't) have full jurisdiction over our mind, body, and spirit as long as it's not hurting anybody else. If your friend doesn't want to try him, maybe educate him on the subject but don't get him to do it until he says that he wants to try it. You don't have any control over him, and if you think you do, you're no better than the overprotective, drug laws acting as a cultural nanny all over the world.
EDIT: JoJo, my life is going pretty well. Back in Community College with my own apartment finally. Took me long enough right?
I don't have internet access on a computer with AIM, so I'm working on that. You still coming down this month?
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# 14

2008-07-13, 23:54
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
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Originally Posted by General Rodent
Why don't you just get to him to get it for you? Who gives a shit if he wants to miss out on a good opportunity?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Before the Opiate
Don't talk him into that shit, if anything goes wrong it's on you. Just get him to get it for you, find some sources of info online about Acid (pros AND cons) educate the man and let him make the decision. Let him be your sitter while you trip maybe?
Also, tell the retards telling him it'll ruin his life/make him insane if he drops once to be a little more open minded and pull the sticks out of their asses and let people make their own decisions and mind their own business..especially about something they obviously know NOTHING about.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck
If your friend doesn't want to try him, maybe educate him on the subject but don't get him to do it until he says that he wants to try it. You don't have any control over him, and if you think you do, you're no better than the overprotective, drug laws acting as a cultural nanny all over the world.
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I guess you're right. Seems like a shame, though.
I normally wouldn't be trying this hard to change his mind, but it depresses me because he was perfectly fine with it before a bunch of morons made him decide that smoking crack is safer and healthier than taking LSD. I'm not trying to brainwash him into taking a drug that he doesn't want to, but rather explain to him the real pros and cons. I mean, who would take a drug if they think it makes your spinal cord melt? No wonder he's against it now.
Anyone have anything positive to say about it that I could print off and show him, or something?
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Originally Posted by Darkus
Terrible troll or just failure at life idiot?
I can't tell.
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Me? 
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#15
 2008-07-13, 23:56
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556 
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
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Originally Posted by Puck
Troll.
I have no useful information to contribute to this thread, except we each (despite the government saying we don't) have full jurisdiction over our mind, body, and spirit as long as it's not hurting anybody else. If your friend doesn't want to try him, maybe educate him on the subject but don't get him to do it until he says that he wants to try it. You don't have any control over him, and if you think you do, you're no better than the overprotective, drug laws acting as a cultural nanny all over the world.
EDIT: JoJo, my life is going pretty well. Back in Community College with my own apartment finally. Took me long enough right?
I don't have internet access on a computer with AIM, so I'm working on that. You still coming down this month?
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shit man i forgot all about that, my sister and her fiance postponed the wedding (the reason i was coming down originally) so no regretfully. glad to hear you're doing well for youreslf. keeping up with the righteous jams i hope? you still got my digits man itd be nice to hear from ya. if not message me via myspace and well work something out my dude
take care
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#16
 2008-07-13, 23:58
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
your name backwards sounds like cup.
people put there balls inside you
ur depresed cuz u suck at lyfe lol n u blame weed in an atempt 2 make urself feel like its not ur fault but it is n u shuld just kill urself
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#17
 2008-07-13, 23:59
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Me? :(
Nope, that yalikeit fool.
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#18
 2008-07-14, 00:04
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Puck 
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Twisted_Ferret, let me add something. If your friend is going to listen to people that smoke crack when they tell him that acid melts your brain, he is obviously easily impressionable and is probably believing them for a reason. That reason being is that he's not ready for a beautiful experience like LSD. He'll probably end up giving handjobs for rawks or some shit.
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#19
 2008-07-14, 00:07
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Twisted_Ferret 
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
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Originally Posted by Puck
Twisted_Ferret, let me add something. If your friend is going to listen to people that smoke crack when they tell him that acid melts your brain, he is obviously easily impressionable and is probably believing them for a reason. That reason being is that he's not ready for a beautiful experience like LSD. He'll probably end up giving handjobs for rawks or some shit.
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That's a good point. I wouldn't want him to try it without being 100% sure he wants to, anyway.
His family has his mind in a vice-grip. :( He can't seem to realize that just because someone takes a lot of drugs doesn't mean they know a lot about drugs.
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#20
 2008-07-14, 00:09
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
im no troll but just very confused atm. im takin a break from all drugs between now and the 5th august when my parents go away for two weeks. im hopin i ight be able to get my head sorted out ready for a binge. my friends diesel ryders will by finished by then also. i know iv only really got myself to blame but i dont think the drugs are helping and a break will probs do me good.
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#21
 2008-07-14, 00:19
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
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Originally Posted by yalikeit
im no troll but just very confused atm. im takin a break from all drugs between now and the 5th august when my parents go away for two weeks. im hopin i ight be able to get my head sorted out ready for a binge. my friends diesel ryders will by finished by then also. i know iv only really got myself to blame but i dont think the drugs are helping and a break will probs do me good.
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Sounds good to me. They can make the world a very strange place. I personally love that feeling, but I can see how it'd get creepy. :)
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#22
 2008-07-14, 01:07
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Hey 556, contact me through AIM whenever you get this. My handle is in my profile.
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# 23

2008-07-14, 06:20
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
dont force someone to do acid, if he goes into the experience all paranoid and shit its not going to be fun for him...
tell him to go to erowid and read... all of it... he should learn that no one dies from overdose, hardly anyone ever goes insane, and that more people have amazing trips than those who have bad ones, and even in the end many who have a bad trip consider it a positive experience even if it wasn't fun... because they learned things about themselves that they would have never realized without it.
Acid is a wonderful experience, ive done it multiple times within the past year... if anything its helped me bring some positive changes in my life. I learned that i don't need anything to make myself happy other than just simply being alive. to a fairly depressed person that change in outlook is a wonderful thing...
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#24
 2008-07-14, 17:28
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
i'll take it for him :]
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#25
 2008-07-14, 17:32
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Two small drops on a stick of gum. Re-wrap stick of gum.
"Hey buddy, want some gum?"
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Seriously though, giving somebody LSD if they have a bad mindset about it can produce a nasty trip.
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#26
 2008-07-14, 17:38
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
slip in drink FTWWWWW
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#27
 2008-07-14, 18:02
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
Definately don't pressure him into doing it if he's at all unsure about it... bad idea!
However, get him to get some for you, and do it with him around. He might see how much fun you're having and change his mind :p
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# 28

2008-07-15, 00:24
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New Arrival
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Re: How can I convince my friend to take LSD
acid is pretty heavy shit that should be reserved for experienced psychonauts. don't pressure people to do things they aren't ready for. there is such a thing as a bad trip.
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