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Old 2008-07-13, 20:24
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Default What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

ne. Decisions, decisions, decisions, man!! I haven't made such a nice score in a while, so I was just wondering, first of all, if the lorazepam are snortable, and also what is BLTC's general opinions on benzo/opiate combos? I don't recall ever having mixed benzo's with opiates, so I was wondering if it is a good idea, or if it would lead to any nausea? I don't recall ever having done Lorazepam specifically, either, so I was just wondering if it's snortable (and if it burns when done so).

tl;dr version: I have 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodone, and I'm wondering how many of each I should take for the day, and how (if at all) I should conserve these shits.....?
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:31
XstanX XstanX is offline
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

Opiates+Benzos=Death. Not every time, but if your not careful, shit could happen.
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:33
spl1ff spl1ff is offline
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

3mg isnt that much lorazepam. if you want you could take them both together. i wouldn't, but that's just a matter of preference. you won't die. 50mg of hydrocodone is a little high but if you have a tolerance, its ok. if not, take 30mg.
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:33
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

Unless you have a pretty decent tolerance, 56mg of hydro should do you in pretty well if you have some pot. Don't take benzos with it. Not worth it. If you can't feel 56mg of hydro, try potentiating it.
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:38
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

Okay, then rather mix them, I'll take one today and the other when I run out of that particular one. I'm leaning MUCH more towards taking the opiates today, as I love opiates.... However, I"m so used to snorting pills that I hate popping them (i.e. I want to get high NOW, I hate waiting an hour and a half or whtaever, though I can if popping is the only available option).

Sooooo, since I haven't ORALLY taken hydrocodone in quite a while (I used to snort it a lot, as I said), I was wondering what would be a good oral recreational dose? I'm assuming I should take more than when snorted, though how much more? I want to PEAK hard, that's the part I enjoy the most, though obviously the duration in general is going to be much longer, which is cool... Idk, I'm kinda rambling, I'm just excited and now sure what to do, especially since I don't want to be TOO drowsy to enjoy spending time with my girlfriend and friends. I think this would be more likely to happen on benzos, as I'm rather talkative whenever I snort (or take) opiates...

FUCKING I TYPE TOO MUCH.

Anyways, I'm gonna go pop 22.5 mg (3 hydrocodone pills) to start off. Still gonna be looking for advice while I'm waiting for the effects to kick in, however..
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:38
steve-o13 steve-o13 is offline
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

Yeah I wouldn't want to risk my respiratory system shutting down.
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:39
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

Yeah, I wasn't planning on taking all 56 mg all at once, guess I should have made that clear. I'm pretty sure a tolerance to opiates definitely EXISTS for me, but I don't do them often enough for it to be a very high tolerance at all, probably rather low actually.. 30 mg should have me soaring.
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:42
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

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Originally Posted by LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry
ne. Decisions, decisions, decisions, man!! I haven't made such a nice score in a while, so I was just wondering, first of all, if the lorazepam are snortable, and also what is BLTC's general opinions on benzo/opiate combos? I don't recall ever having mixed benzo's with opiates, so I was wondering if it is a good idea, or if it would lead to any nausea? I don't recall ever having done Lorazepam specifically, either, so I was just wondering if it's snortable (and if it burns when done so).

tl;dr version: I have 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodone, and I'm wondering how many of each I should take for the day, and how (if at all) I should conserve these shits.....?


IMO, Benzos and opiates aren't that good of a mix. I have quite a fondness of opiates but rather detest the constant blacking out from benzos. You should be okay if you take them together, but you probably shouldn't drink with the mix.

The only real thing you should watch is the APAP I'm assuming is with your hydrocodone. It won't kill you immediately, but try to stay below 8 grams for your liver's sake. Look into a CWE if you want to get rid of most of that APAP.

I'd save those benzos and have a couple beers with them. I just enjoy 20-25mgs of hydrocodone by itself or maybe with a little weed, if you smoke too much it over takes the hydrocodone. You could also search around here for the opiate potentiating formula. There are several of them in several states of revision.

I believe most benzos are snortable whether they act through water or lipid solubility. Anyway, hope it helps...
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:47
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

However, I"m so used to snorting pills that I hate popping them (i.e. I want to get high NOW, I hate waiting an hour and a half or whtaever, though I can if popping is the only available option).




You dont just swallow them do you? If so stop it. It helps the wait time alot to chew them up or parachute them. I've gotten to the point now where the taste of opes doesnt bother me so I chew em up reeeal good...except tramadol, tramadol still tastes like ass.

Pop the opiates and save the ativan for after the comedown or when you don't have any more of the good shit. It isn't going to hurt you but (as stated somewhere above) it isn't really worth it to mix em, the opes will do you juust fine.

Peace
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:50
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

You dont just swallow them do you? If so stop it. It helps the wait time alot to chew them up or parachute them. I've gotten to the point now where the taste of opes doesnt bother me so I chew em up reeeal good...except tramadol, tramadol still tastes like ass.

Pop the opiates and save the ativan for after the comedown or when you don't have any more of the good shit. It isn't going to hurt you but (as stated somewhere above) it isn't really worth it to mix em, the opes will do you juust fine.

Peace

Fuck, yeah, I swallowed them. >_< I read this post RIGHT after popping 30mg.. maybe I should chew the half, just to make it kick in a little faster?
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Old 2008-07-13, 20:55
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

Fuck, yeah, I swallowed them. >_< I read this post RIGHT after popping 30mg.. maybe I should chew the half, just to make it kick in a little faster?

Yeah i'd recommend chewing up at least a little bit, it'll end up hitting you faster and carry you into the 30mgs alot happier.

If you dont like the taste parachuting is the way to go, or do what I did when I first started chewing them and just use your front teeth and bite 2-4 times and let it all fall into the little pit underneath the front of your tongue, that way you wont taste it and then a good swig of something will get it all right down.
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Old 2008-07-14, 01:13
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

Be careful how you balance the doses. Opiates and benzos in combination are infamous for causing severe respiratory depression.
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Old 2008-07-14, 01:18
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on a pharm
Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

id take 2 mg of the opiate and 30 mg of the benzo but thats just me...lol
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Old 2008-07-14, 01:42
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

i want some pills.
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Old 2008-07-14, 06:47
FuzzySlipperz FuzzySlipperz is offline
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

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Old 2008-07-14, 17:24
steve-o13 steve-o13 is offline
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

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Originally Posted by house
id take 2 mg of the opiate and 30 mg of the benzo but thats just me...lol


Sure you don't mean the other way around?
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Old 2008-07-14, 17:30
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

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Originally Posted by XstanX
Opiates+Benzos=Death. Not every time, but if your not careful, shit could happen.


I did not know this.

I'm going to go ahead and stop combining them.
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On another note, Out of curiosity, how does it kill you? What happens during an overdose on them?
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Old 2008-07-14, 18:56
steve-o13 steve-o13 is offline
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

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On another note, Out of curiosity, how does it kill you? What happens during an overdose on them?

Yeah I wouldn't want to risk my respiratory system shutting down.
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Old 2008-07-15, 00:45
FuzzySlipperz FuzzySlipperz is offline
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Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

these two drugs are my favorite combo
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Old 2008-07-15, 01:01
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on a pharm
Default Re: What's a safe, non-nauseous does to take out of 3mg lorazepam and 56.25 mg hydrocodo

Sure you don't mean the other way around?

its okay if you dont know what sarcasm is...we wont make fun of you that much
 
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