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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-07-13, 18:05
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556 
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a question on dope addiction..
so lets say you have only succombed to snorting it, and you havent let it get too out of hand. its prolly been 3 to 4months doing it daily, but you're only spending 250-300 a week on it so its not too ridiculous.
how long would the withdrawls last if you decided to go cold turkey?
also, ive been told from a few not so reliable sources that if you do indeed go cold turkey you can go into seizures and in worse cases, die. i know this is true of alcohol and strong benzo addiction, but what about herron
secondly, ive read in a similar thread some people felt that benzos/alcohol/weed helped ten fold in their recovery. i am just curious on some peoples input that have been through this.
the main symptoms of the dope sicknesses i experience (if this helps gauge how deep i am) is cold sweats, runny noses and watery eyes. the main annoyance is the sweating. i will get hot, then cold, hot, then cold for no reason and every part of my body is in a constant sweat.
how well would xanax bars and copious amounts of beer get me through this? if i will still feel the cold sweats and whatnot i would much rather just ween off.
thanks--
ya boy fivefivesix
p.s. if any of you kind hearted folks wanna support ya boy in his recovery send me your scripts and raw. lol
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#2
 2008-07-13, 18:09
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
Yeah, you can not die from opiate withdrawal, you can however from benzo/alcohol withdrawal. I would just be careful, a lot of marijuana, hot showers or tubs, maybe some valiums or klonopins to sleep, would help a lot.
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#3
 2008-07-13, 19:54
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
The worst of the withdrawals should only last 3-5 days, maybe a week but I would think not, more like 3 days. After that 72 hour hump you should still be feeling kind of off, like post withdrawal for a few more days. I would if I were you taper down how much you're using, like from 6-8 times/day (if you do that much) down to 4 times a day at first, when you wake up, after you eat breakfast/lunch, then around dinnertime if you need it to help you eat, then again at bedtime so you can get some sleep. Do that for 3 days, then cut it down to 3 times a day, or 4 times with 2 large doses an 2 small doses around mealtimes if you need it to eat (dont get high around when you need to eat). Again do that for 3 days, then try to cut it down to twice a day, after you wake up and at bedtime, and when you've cut down to this point you will def. feel some discomfort during the day (if you havent begun to in the previous tapers) and it'll be hard to not get high during the day. Use a little just to make the withdrawals milder during the day but DO NOT get high during the day b/c you'll throw away all the progress you've made. Do this 2x dosage/day for 3 days, then you should be more or less stable an not withdrawing on day 3. You might not want to quit at this point b/c you'll feel you've made enough progress. Thats your choice of course but that progress is an illusion - you wont be able to keep on using only twice a day an getting high both times. When you are down to twice a day start to reduce how much you use in the morning, with the goal being to only use enough to not withdraw, not to get high. Remember you can still get high at night, but not twice a day. Once you start to decrease your morning dose you'll see yourself needing less at night to get high. Using just a little to take the edge off in the morning and more at night is a good jumping off point for cold turkey that wont leave you feeling like shit. You can easily amaze yourself when using 2x/day b/c of how little dope you'll need an how much you'll feel it.
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#4
 2008-07-13, 21:13
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
Brick of text
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#5
 2008-07-13, 23:04
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
so lets say you have only succombed to snorting it, and you havent let it get too out of hand. its prolly been 3 to 4months doing it daily, but you're only spending 250-300 a week on it so its not too ridiculous.
Umm...
I'm pretty sure once you start doing ANY drug EVERY DAY... IT IS WAY OUT OF HAND!
Dumb ass.
ONE.
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#6
 2008-07-13, 23:06
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
Benzos will help a lot with the psychological aspect of it, ie. irritability, insomnia, anxiety etc. etc.
If you can get Klonopin or Valium that'd be more ideal than Xanax IMO. Xanax will work, too, but it just doesn't last long enough, and you're going to be stuck multi-dosing and dealing with rebound anxiety when you misjudge your re-dose. A solid K-pin or Valium dose will tide you over most of the day, and it's a lot smoother of a "come-down".
Alcohol will help the same as benzos, of course. Again, long-acting benzos hold the benefit of duration.
Benzos will help you out a lot at getting rid of the sweating and hot/cold flashes.
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#7
 2008-07-13, 23:41
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
Umm...
I'm pretty sure once you start doing ANY drug EVERY DAY... IT IS WAY OUT OF HAND!
Dumb ass.
ONE.
i didnt ask for your petty ass judgements so keep your stupid ass comments to youreself noobzz
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#8
 2008-07-13, 23:42
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
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Originally Posted by Piles Of Crack
Benzos will help a lot with the psychological aspect of it, ie. irritability, insomnia, anxiety etc. etc.
If you can get Klonopin or Valium that'd be more ideal than Xanax IMO. Xanax will work, too, but it just doesn't last long enough, and you're going to be stuck multi-dosing and dealing with rebound anxiety when you misjudge your re-dose. A solid K-pin or Valium dose will tide you over most of the day, and it's a lot smoother of a "come-down".
Alcohol will help the same as benzos, of course. Again, long-acting benzos hold the benefit of duration.
Benzos will help you out a lot at getting rid of the sweating and hot/cold flashes.
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whats up poc mang im surprised you aint dead yet (kidding.. sort of) what the fucks been up you still got the aim name startin with CH? ill have to get in touch witcha sometime
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#9
 2008-07-13, 23:43
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
God damn you're a faggot.
Who else wants to bet he'll be making another one of these threads a year from now?
hahaha, there are haters everywhere you go.. sorry that you have so much hostility for someone you dont know brotha
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#10
 2008-07-14, 00:39
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
God damn son, you need to cut that shit out immediately. Taper yourself off. $250-300 a week? Come the fuck on JoJo.
Get a bunch of benzos, alcohol and marijuana and rough it out, bro. You can do it.
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#11
 2008-07-14, 00:46
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
the angst is back.
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#12
 2008-07-14, 01:44
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
dude you are at the begining of a very long way down. as your begining to notice its not that hard to jump out now, so what the fuck are you asking us for and just not doing it?
you can't die from opiate withdrawls, however you can experience pains you never wanted to know existed....
cold sweats, runny noses, aches, insomnia, and other bullshit beats what it could be another 2-3 months down the line...
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#13
 2008-07-14, 02:09
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
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Originally Posted by Puck
God damn son, you need to cut that shit out immediately. Taper yourself off. $250-300 a week? Come the fuck on JoJo.
Get a bunch of benzos, alcohol and marijuana and rough it out, bro. You can do it.
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ya im already doing pretty well for myself. i tried to quit a ton of times but they say you cant truly force yourself until you hit a bottom. my bottom? getting shot at and realizing that if one thing had gone differently i wouldnt even be here posting right now. time to get things in order time to correct the things i am not so proud of. the last 2 days ive only done 4 buttons so im doing alright all things considered.
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#14
 2008-07-14, 02:13
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
Umm...
I'm pretty sure once you start doing ANY drug EVERY DAY... IT IS WAY OUT OF HAND!
Dumb ass.
ONE.
That's pretty much true. It's only really worse - the w/d - when you shoot it because shooters usually use more.
And yes, you can diefrom w/d. But not likely; only if you have a very high usage over many many years.
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#15
 2008-07-14, 02:17
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
im considering taking like 4-5 days off work to get my shit together.
the main reason i am constantly dosin up is because i do manual labor and its hell when withdrawing. on top of that i wouldnt be able to be drunk enough to get thru the withdrawls.
if i was at home i get as drunk as i want to forget the w/ds.
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#16
 2008-07-14, 02:34
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
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Originally Posted by Piles Of Crack
Benzos will help a lot with the psychological aspect of it, ie. irritability, insomnia, anxiety etc. etc.
If you can get Klonopin or Valium that'd be more ideal than Xanax IMO. Xanax will work, too, but it just doesn't last long enough, and you're going to be stuck multi-dosing and dealing with rebound anxiety when you misjudge your re-dose. A solid K-pin or Valium dose will tide you over most of the day, and it's a lot smoother of a "come-down".
Alcohol will help the same as benzos, of course. Again, long-acting benzos hold the benefit of duration.
Benzos will help you out a lot at getting rid of the sweating and hot/cold flashes.
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They will also give you an addiction to benzos.
I much rather be w/d from "smack" then barbs, benzos, (long term)alcohol addictions.
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#17
 2008-07-14, 02:55
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Re: a question on dope addiction..
They will also give you an addiction to benzos.
Which is why you only use them in therapeutic doses in the early stages of withdrawal and use a gradual taper for cessation when they're no longer needed.
Not that difficult to do assuming someone actually wants to...
oh and 556...I got the same AIM as always btw
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