I think the proof that jesus has already returned to earth is

the fact that everyone thinks he hasn't. I mean think about it from Jesus's perspective, why would he want to 'come out' and say he is jesus to everyone? Do you think he wants to be worshipped and honored by the people at west boro who protest hate at a time of mourning? Do you think he wants to lead the millions who reinterpret his principles and cause a plight of wars?

I'm not saying he hates you or dismembers you because deep down I believe jesus loves everyone. But he has no incentive to come out. He knows tension and hostility from other religions would rise hath he announce thy return. I'm not saying jesus hates us, because he taught about not making judgements. However, I can easily picture him looking over all of us and letting out a sigh of disbelief in people today. Not judging, but observing. He is better off never returning until the very end.


n my humble opinion, jesus probably walks today (i'm looking at you macy gray)

[Rust]

There is no evidence for P, therefore P?

Yeah, that's stupid.

Originally Posted by Rust

There is no evidence for P, therefore P?

Yeah, that's stupid.

Please don't litter my thread with this garbage. You didn't think about my argument from Christs perspective, you thought about it through some argumentative rule you learned in law100 class. You can't apply logic when an action like this is based on emotion. try not to think through logic when you should be thinking through emotions.

[Graemy]

Originally Posted by ramoo

Please don't litter my thread with this garbage. You didn't think about my argument from Christs perspective, you thought about it through some argumentative rule you learned in law100 class. You can't apply logic when an action like this is based on emotion. try not to think through logic when you should be thinking through emotions.

But think about your argument. It could be used for any time period. Not only that, you should think about the premises that are "supposed" to happen before his return. If he doesn't reveal himself, then why has he returned? For what reason? Why would he return for no reason?

Originally Posted by Graemy

But think about your argument. It could be used for any time period. Not only that, you should think about the premises that are "supposed" to happen before his return. If he doesn't reveal himself, then why has he returned? For what reason? Why would he return for no reason?

Well like I said you are assuming Jesus thinks logically. A guy like Jesus loves everyone and will act on his emotions imo. Why would he return? Maybe he misses seeing the very things he created? Wants to visit some great people?

And you can't ask a question like "why would he return for no reason?" every man has a reason for something. His reasons involve seeing his loved ones.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by ramoo

Please don't litter my thread with this garbage. You didn't think about my argument from Christs perspective, you thought about it through some argumentative rule you learned in law100 class. You can't apply logic when an action like this is based on emotion. try not to think through logic when you should be thinking through emotions.

Sorry but this inane reasoning ("think with emotion, not logic") leaves a never-ending amount of ridiculous stupidity open as "proven".

Example:

I think the proof that unicorns exist on Earth is the fact that everyone thinks they don't. Why would a unicorn make himself apparent when people hunt dear and wild exotic animals all the time? He wouldn't! He would go into hiding deep into the forests and meld, so that humanity doesn't doesn't extinguish its magical essence.

The list goes on and on. I can support practically anything with that atrocious train of thought. It's what psychologists call a self-reinforcing delusion: even what indicates you're wrong (i.e. no evidence) is somehow supportive of your claim.


So sorry, but whether you like or not, calling attention to the ridiculous "reasoning" you're using is not "littering" anything; except maybe if you consider logic, evidence and proper reason to be "garbage". Apparently you do.

[Roxberry]

Originally Posted by ramoo

Please don't litter my thread with this garbage. You didn't think about my argument from Christs perspective, you thought about it through some argumentative rule you learned in law100 class. You can't apply logic when an action like this is based on emotion. try not to think through logic when you should be thinking through emotions.

This is a joke thread, right? You attempted to make a sound argument and when shown why it failed to be sound, you claim that your argument can't be shown to be unsound because logic doesn't count?

If you want to claim that your claim is based on emotion, e.g., I feel that Jesus has come back, that's fine. But you used an argument as evidence that your claim holds water. In that case, it's perfectly acceptable for one to show you why your argument is unsound.

So, now, why is it that since everyone (except for you?) thinks he hasn't come back, does it mean he actually has? Why didn't this logic apply 100 years ago? Why now? Why can't he come back, say, 100 years from now?

Originally Posted by ramoo

the fact that everyone thinks he hasn't. I mean think about it from Jesus's perspective, why would he want to 'come out' and say he is jesus to everyone? Do you think he wants to be worshipped and honored by the people at west boro who protest hate at a time of mourning? Do you think he wants to lead the millions who reinterpret his principles and cause a plight of wars?

I'm not saying he hates you or dismembers you because deep down I believe jesus loves everyone. But he has no incentive to come out. He knows tension and hostility from other religions would rise hath he announce thy return. I'm not saying jesus hates us, because he taught about not making judgements. However, I can easily picture him looking over all of us and letting out a sigh of disbelief in people today. Not judging, but observing. He is better off never returning until the very end.


n my humble opinion, jesus probably walks today (i'm looking at you macy gray)

Ban Please
There's no proof.
Troll/spam

Originally Posted by ramoo

the fact that everyone thinks he hasn't. I mean think about it from Jesus's perspective, why would he want to 'come out' and say he is jesus to everyone? Do you think he wants to be worshipped and honored by the people at west boro who protest hate at a time of mourning? Do you think he wants to lead the millions who reinterpret his principles and cause a plight of wars?

I'm not saying he hates you or dismembers you because deep down I believe jesus loves everyone. But he has no incentive to come out. He knows tension and hostility from other religions would rise hath he announce thy return. I'm not saying jesus hates us, because he taught about not making judgements. However, I can easily picture him looking over all of us and letting out a sigh of disbelief in people today. Not judging, but observing. He is better off never returning until the very end.


n my humble opinion, jesus probably walks today (i'm looking at you macy gray)

You are one batshit crazy individual.

[Feds In Town]

OP is either stupid or a troll

[AngryFemme]

Originally Posted by kev19x

Ban Please
There's no proof.
Troll/spam

That's not how it works, kev. For one, trolling isn't a bannable offense. Second - "proof" isn't a requirement for posting. Lastly, there is no spam here.

You can ignore him or argue with him, but asking for a ban is futile.

[Cegstar]

Originally Posted by ramoo

the fact that everyone thinks he hasn't. I mean think about it from Jesus's perspective, why would he want to 'come out' and say he is jesus to everyone? Do you think he wants to be worshipped and honored by the people at west boro who protest hate at a time of mourning? Do you think he wants to lead the millions who reinterpret his principles and cause a plight of wars?

I'm not saying he hates you or dismembers you because deep down I believe jesus loves everyone. But he has no incentive to come out. He knows tension and hostility from other religions would rise hath he announce thy return. I'm not saying jesus hates us, because he taught about not making judgements. However, I can easily picture him looking over all of us and letting out a sigh of disbelief in people today. Not judging, but observing. He is better off never returning until the very end.


n my humble opinion, jesus probably walks today (i'm looking at you macy gray)

Using your logic

We don't know Jesus is here, therefore he is.
We don't know if you're homosexual, therefore you are.
We don't know if you have orgy with all your family members every night, therefore you do.
We don't know if you live in a closet, therefore you do.
We don't know if you're a good poster, therefore you are.


The last one, obviously is false, disproves your theory.

[Gorloche]

I came in hoping I could say something to this guy but all the good things have been taken. You cannot defend a claim with anything but logic, man. You can make it all you'd like, but once you start get into formally ordering it up into something you are defending, you have to switch to regular logic. Because that's how the world works. With everything. So, way to go clearly being something like 12, I imagine. You'll get to drive someday! Just stick in there. Eventually, you'll also lose your imaginary friends and big ass space daddies.

maybe he watched Monty Pythons "life of Brian" and doesn't want a situation like that.

http:../../www.youtube.com/watch@v=0umjyq9lkgq

well in my opinion this is bs cos bearing false witness is a sin, and there is a shitload of people pretending to me the messiah. so if jesus 'came out' (horrible wording, u make him sound gay) he would prevent many sins, something that he does care for i guess, unless he likes dying again to repent our sins

[SockMan]

Originally Posted by Speedel

maybe he watched Monty Pythons "life of Brian" and doesn't want a situation like that.



well in my opinion this is bs cos bearing false witness is a sin, and there is a shitload of people pretending to me the messiah. so if jesus 'came out' (horrible wording, u make him sound gay) he would prevent many sins, something that he does care for i guess, unless he likes dying again to repent our sins

I am the messiah. Jesus retired.

And you're going to hell for jacking off some time in your life. You heathen.