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Old 2008-07-12, 14:29
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Default Amphetamine+amino acids/various pharms

I have been on a bit of an adderall binge. Not a hardcore binge - I still eat (occasionally) although not nearly as much as I should. I have done a lot of research and I was hoping some knowledgeable people here might be able to give me some information on a few substances when they are combined or pre/post loaded with adderall. (Sorry for another adderall thread BLTC, but I havn't found any of these answers in any other thread, and this is a little different than "how do I shoot my XR beads lulz).

L-Phenylalanine - Should I mainly post/pre load with this? How efficient will it be at raising my dopamine levels? Does it need to build up in the body, like 5-HTP when used as an anti-depressant, or will one dose make a difference? Any risk factors involved here? How does tyrosine differ, and is one better than the other?

JP's L-Phen combo - In the last thread about JP's combo, he said

...but if you really want an answer to "can my body even do anything with this" - pop it during a meth crash. You'll get an answer, for your body, rather quickly.

- jp (Referring to the combo, not just L-Phen I assume)
Does he mean this will work exceptionally well on a (meth)amphetamine comedown ? Any dosages you would change? Should you dose this directly on the comedown or the next morning or what, cause I assume it will make it a little harder to sleep. Will this just alleviate the comedown effects, or could it possibly make you feel good? Hah! Feeling good on a speed comedown, what an oxymorphon...oxymoron, rather. ;-)

L-Theanine - It seems theanine would be a great thing to pre/post load with, or even possibly take with it. It promotes relaxation by producing alpha waves in the brain. It also increases serotonin, dopamine, and GABA and has micromolar affinities for NMDA receptors, which is related to amphetamine tolerance, I believe. It also helps maintain a healthy immune system and convert fat to muscle. Sounds like an excellent substance, which could be beneficial for many things, ya?

Propranolol- Propranolol is a beta blocker that is mostly prescribed for heart problems such as hypertension, angina pectoris, tachyarrhythmias, myocardial infarction etc. It is also used to help anxiety, or the physical side effects caused by anxiety, mainly tremors. I seem to get tremors badly the day after a speed binge. It seems this could definately help a speeding heart or abnormal heart beat etc... Anything dangerous about this?

Huperzine A - Huperzine is generally praised by many as a 'smart drug'. It increases levels of dopamine and norepinephrine, while also being an NMDA receptor antagonist, which is linked to reducing amphetamine tolerance, I believe. Increased levels of dopamine/NE=more spun, ya!?

Requip- Dopamine agonist. Activates dopamine receptors, mimicking the effect of dopamine. Could this possibly have any benefits when combined with adderall?

Basically I am looking for any personal experiences people have had with this or the basic pharmacology behind mixing these substances with amphetamine (from educated people, please). Also, any information about good things to mix with amphetamine to potentiate it or alleviate the negative effects would be appreciated. (I already know about anti-acids for better absorption and DXM for lower tolerance)

God it's late and I am strung out...sorry if the post is rough around the edges, as I am a little rough around the edges at the moment.

Thanks, bitches.
 
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