Besides that, I would also love to go to nepal for 2-3 months just to trek around the country and you're welcome to join me when I go :)

In the next year I intend to go there and volunteer at a school/orphanage, learn the language, then trek around for a month or so. Will be sure to hit you up and see if you're going.

Regarding the day in 2012 when the world is supposed to end or something major is meant to happen, what hour of the day and what timezone? so we can all relate. Instead of waiting around all day for something to happen.

I love that book

I'm in.

Along with riding the Trans-Siberian, playing in the World Series of Poker Main Event and Skydiving, climbing everest is on (the bottom) my list of things to do before I die.

One day I shall... But not in 3 years. No where near enough time for me.

It's like £20,000 in total, that's going to take a shitload of saving, and you need to be in PRIME mental and physical strength. Whilst I'm still young, jobless and experimenting with drugs and being lazy, there's no way I'm going to manage it.

.... these are all things that you HAVE to get if you want to go all the way to the top....

Uh.. how do they keep watch of who goes up there? Surely there isn't a circumferential lookout all around the mountain. They can't watch ALL the sides. As for search n rescue, I guess it comes down how far is one willing to go into the unknown (relatively) without a safety net. If I have prepared my body and mind for such a task, knowing that I can be saved with the push of a button, would just piss me off. it's almost like an insult. But that's just me.

Uh.. how do they keep watch of who goes up there? Surely there isn't a circumferential lookout all around the mountain. They can't watch ALL the sides. As for search n rescue, I guess it comes down how far is one willing to go into the unknown (relatively) without a safety net. If I have prepared my body and mind for such a task, knowing that I can be saved with the push of a button, would just piss me off. it's almost like an insult. But that's just me.

What mountains have you climbed?

Gl at climbing Everest on a non-standard route without any help.

What mountains have you climbed?

Gl at climbing Everest on a non-standard route without any help.

none. none at all.

What mountains have you climbed?

Gl at climbing Everest on a non-standard route without any help.

Taking the standard route with help is kinda boring though innit. You go through all this effort to do something that everyone has done before you.

Just go to nepal and visit mountain monestaries and villages, the big mountains, especially Mt Everest, are littered with thousands of empty oxygen tanks, would not be that beautiful imo.
Fixed.

You could just read Into Thin Air instead. Its like going to Everest in your mind.

Awesome book; better than Into the Wild, nay?

Taking the standard route with help is kinda boring though innit. You go through all this effort to do something that everyone has done before you.

Exactly.

Fixed.



Awesome book; better than Into the Wild, nay?

How was Into the Wild? I've seen the movie but movies have a tendency of trading the non-fiction for public appeal.

Fixed.



Awesome book; better than Into the Wild, nay?

To tell you the truth, I've yet to read Into The Wild. I read Into Thin Air not to long ago, and I didn't want to do two books of the same genre back to back.

To tell you the truth, I've yet to read Into The Wild. I read Into Thin Air not to long ago, and I didn't want to do two books of the same genre back to back.

not same genre, and i'm only a few chapters in on into thin air. his writing style is superb.

If anybody is interested, I'll be going trekking in the Alps for about 2 weeks in December, with just a tent in the pure wilderness. If anybody is interested, let me know.

What kind of bag are you taking?

What kind of bag are you taking?

You mean my my backpack? If so, I haven't bought my material yet, but I will most likely buy the Haglöf Matrix 70

http://www.haglofs.se/prd/visaprod.asp?ID=1180&nid=418&lang=en&CatNr=366&CatNr2=367&xCatNr=&NP=&Q=&HMtrl=&Str=&show=&ak=&nid2=522

You mean my my backpack? If so, I haven't bought my material yet, but I will most likely buy the Haglöf Matrix 70

http://www.haglofs.se/prd/visaprod.asp?ID=1180&nid=418&lang=en&CatNr=366&CatNr2=367&xCatNr=&NP=&Q=&HMtrl=&Str=&show=&ak=&nid2=522

Looks nice.

Do you have any experience with that specific brand?

I'm looking for something I can use for long term travel and something I don't have to check-in during flights. Any suggestions?

These looks really good to me: http://www.redoxx.com/catalog/backpacks-daypacks/p_91082-m-ruck.html

I plan on traveling light.

How much does that cost, BTW?

Looks nice.

Do you have any experience with that specific brand?

I'm looking for something I can use for long term travel and something I don't have to check-in during flights. Any suggestions?

These looks really good to me: http://www.redoxx.com/catalog/backpacks-daypacks/p_91082-m-ruck.html

I plan on traveling light.

How much does that cost, BTW?

Something for long term travel and you don't have to check in? Impossible. Just your tent, sleepingbag and sleeping mat will take up alot of space.

That backpack you suggest is a good DAYPACK but I sure as hell wouldn't wanna be carrying that thing around for 7-8 hours a day, for several weeks. Just look at the shoulder straps, they look like they'll cut right tru your shoulders, not to mention that you'll never be able to put enough material in there to go trekking for a long period of time.

That backpack is 250 euro and it comes with a raincover.

The difference between your and my backpack is that:

- it has a waistband, which also lightens the preasure off your shoulders and back, which makes it easier to carry for a long period of time.
- has about 3 times the volume
- Has several large compartments which makes it easier to organize your bag
- has extra thick padding on the shoulderstraps which prevents it from hurting if you carry it for a long period of time
- Has a ventilation system at the back so your back doesn't start sweating like hell if you carry it for a long period of time.

Something for long term travel and you don't have to check in? Impossible. Just your tent, sleepingbag and sleeping mat will take up alot of space.

That backpack you suggest is a good DAYPACK but I sure as hell wouldn't wanna be carrying that thing around for 7-8 hours a day, for several weeks. Just look at the shoulder straps, they look like they'll cut right tru your shoulders, not to mention that you'll never be able to put enough material in there to go trekking for a long period of time.

That backpack is 250 euro and it comes with a raincover.

The difference between your and my backpack is that:

- it has a waistband, which also lightens the preasure off your shoulders and back, which makes it easier to carry for a long period of time.
- has about 3 times the volume
- Has several large compartments which makes it easier to organize your bag
- has extra thick padding on the shoulderstraps which prevents it from hurting if you carry it for a long period of time
- Has a ventilation system at the back so your back doesn't start sweating like hell if you carry it for a long period of time.

I should've mentioned. I'm not trekking. Even if I do, it won't be for weeks at a time. I'm not taking a tent, sleeping bag, or a sleeping mat. I'll be taking a sarong to use as a sleeping mat. I'll dress in layers to keep warm if I have to.

I'm not carrying all that much clothes either. 1 or two changes of each in addition to what I'll be wearing. 1 MSR packtowel. toiletries adding up to less than a pound. Misc survival items adding up less than 2 pouinds. Flashlight, floss, sewing kit, gauze, compass, etc.

Hell, the heaviest thing in my pack is going to be a 15" powerbook (7lbs). And I'm still not sure if I want to take it or not. If not that, It's going to be a thick 300-400 page notebook which prolly wont weight even half of the laptop.

Again, my bad, I should've mentioned the type of travellin I'll be doing. I'm still looking for brand suggestions.

Haha, Totse can barely organize a meet-up in the nearest major urban centre.

All the same, good luck with Everest.

I think I'll stay home and play TF2 and jerk off to lesbian porn instead.

Have fun :)

Try about $1,000,000 bud.

The clothing costs around $120,000 alone.

Yeah that sounds like a better plan. We could start by organizing a totse wide TF2 and jerk off session.

Try about $1,000,000 bud.

The clothing costs around $120,000 alone.

Source?

Ofcourse it CAN cost up to a mill, but then again, any trip can.

Anyway, I'm going to Nepal in March of 2009 probably, just for three weeks. I'll be mainly chillin' out in the Everest region

Fixed.

For fucks sake you faggot, it was blatantly obvious that's what I meant. What, do you think the Nepali government has left thousands of FULL oxygen tanks lying around for struggling travelers?

Try about $1,000,000 bud.

The clothing costs around $120,000 alone.

Seriously, can you spin more shit out of that ass hole you call a mouth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepal

Now scroll down to their GDP. You see that? Huh? You fucking see that? All the first people to scale Everest had Sherpas with them, did these Sherpas have $120,000 clothes? Don't make shit up you faggot.

Fuck, people like you annoy me.

And no, it was quoted at $30,000 USD a fair few years back when the US dollar was strong. All the regularly taken paths on everest have ropes and ladders and chiseled stairs.

why not?

I've done it 10 times already

"Everyone is supposed to climb Mt. Everest once, but only a fool climbs it twice."

..And you've done it 10 times. What does it make you?

"Everyone is supposed to climb Mt. Everest once, but only a fool climbs it twice."

..And you've done it 10 times. What does it make you?

It makes him a complete fucktard who jerks off to gay shit huffing porn

For fucks sake you faggot, it was blatantly obvious that's what I meant. What, do you think the Nepali government has left thousands of FULL oxygen tanks lying around for struggling travelers?



Seriously, can you spin more shit out of that ass hole you call a mouth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepal

Now scroll down to their GDP. You see that? Huh? You fucking see that? All the first people to scale Everest had Sherpas with them, did these Sherpas have $120,000 clothes? Don't make shit up you faggot.

Fuck, people like you annoy me.

And no, it was quoted at $30,000 USD a fair few years back when the US dollar was strong. All the regularly taken paths on everest have ropes and ladders and chiseled stairs.

Oh fuck off you useless cunt.

I heard it off that show Everest or whatever it's called. I can't believe you took the time to write up 2 paragraphs of shit I could care less to read.

Save it for somebody who fucking cares, you retarded fuck.

Oh fuck off you useless cunt.

I heard it off that show Everest or whatever it's called. I can't believe you took the time to write up 2 paragraphs of shit I could care less to read.

Save it for somebody who fucking cares, you retarded fuck.

If you don't care, don't post.

If you don't care, don't post.

This [i]is[/] Totse, what kind of bastard would you be without replying to flame?

Oh fuck off you useless cunt.

I heard it off that show Everest or whatever it's called. I can't believe you took the time to write up 2 paragraphs of shit I could care less to read.

Save it for somebody who fucking cares, you retarded fuck.

You got owned; now you cry "I DON'T CARE".

LOL $1,000,000. I dunno where u pulled this figure out of but you were obviously high at the time. Ive heard it can cost anywhere from $45-60k. Permits are over half, and the rest count for clothing, food, oxygen, etc. The nepali's like to scam everyone of their money, but atleast it aint pakistan :p(they charge ~$45k for a PERMIT only, and you have a chance of getting kidnapped by some fucking sand nigger).

Havent been on in a while due to work, etc.

Also, since when was the world gonna end in 2012.....some bs that some crack head religious person thought up i guess.....

Well, anybody who wants to go earlier, on a more realistic trek. I'll be going to Nepal for 1 month next year (juli) and I'll be doing a 200km trek in the Annapurna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annapurna) region.
Starting in Pokhara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokhara) then to Marpa, to then work my way to Tilicho lake which is one of the highest lakes in the world at 4,919 meters high (16,138 feet) then to a little nice town called Manang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manang_District) and then via Ngawal and Bagarshhap back to Pokhara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokhara).

Any takers?

July....hmmm. Might just take you up on it. I would want to stay in budget accommodation and with Nepali families, will you be wanting to stay in hotels and high end acom?

Absolutly not, I'm gonna try to rough it as much as I can.

Absolutly not, I'm gonna try to rough it as much as I can.

Fuck that shit, what's the point of being a westerner if little brown people don't do all the hard work for you when you visit their shitty little country?

Fuck that shit, what's the point of being a westerner if little brown people don't do all the hard work for you when you visit their shitty little country?

Please keep your trolling in SG.

Please keep your trolling in SG.

I'm being serious!

I'm being serious!

That's even worse...

this would actually be amazing... a big totse or &T flag on everest.

i think the memebership tatoo thing will happen someday too... a wee &T on the wrist or something

Fuck that, Ima parachute out of a hot air balloon onto the summit then handglide down to base camp.

It will be awesome.

because that is not possible for civilians, mr. sarcasm.

Handglide? Is that when you make a small aerofoil shape with your hands and use that to fly down the mountain?

Handglide? Is that when you make a small aerofoil shape with your hands and use that to fly down the mountain?

I've done it.

Its pretty awesome!

everest is comparatively easy to climb if you have the money.

Compared to what exactly?

We're not gonna fucking die at 2012 so stfu.

Yes, yes we all will.

Oddly enough I had a related experience the other day:

I'm sitting in the dining room of my hostel (extremely visible to the street) on my laptop using the wireless and this old Japanese guy walks in. He's all excited and like "Harro! How are you? I am Hiroshi!" I was like "uhh...good I guess. How can I help you?" So he out of the blue asks if my computer is connected to the internet and if he can use it. I'm trusting, so I let him use it and went off and did some chores. When I get back he was super grateful and shook my hand a lot. He started telling me how he's a volunteer ski patrol guy around here and is in NZ to climb Mt Cook.

He then goes on to tell me that he is the Managing Sub Director of one of the biggest Sherpa companies in Nepal. He gave me his card, his direct line and his email and told me if I am planning to go to Nepal in the next year or so he will hook me up with great service and deals. He'd climbed each continents highest peaks, totaling around 32 of the highest in the world.

He even said casually "If you want to climb Everest I can easily help you with that". So I've been riding with him a couple times and his offers are legit.

If any one plans to go to Nepal any time soon I can contact him and set it up, or give you his details and let you set it up your self.

I plan to get to nepal by next year, but im just waiting for confirmation on my new job, if i get it ill be able to go sooner :)

Sybil might take you up on that offer :), but more then 200km.

Gonna cost me like $3000 just to get there and back(2, 12 hour stop overs via thailand)

Nothing else leaves from Perth that goes to kathmandu otherwise.

Well if its TOTSE I think it has to be original, like the bottom of the ocean or the moon as mentioned earlier.

^ they've all been done before.

The only thing that hasnt been done(i think) is to BASE jump from the top of everest, or throw yourself into an active volcano

OR

go to Everest with a team, cook Jenkem, huff RAID, proceed to Molotov/Everything thus commencing a murder/suicide.

Well, I just made out the exact route on google earth, it's about 230km, and to be honest, in a month, that's about the max you can do. Do not underestimate the geography in Nepal, it's always up and down, so my guess is that we'll get about 12-15km done a day, if we don't stop, but I'll be taking my DSLR with me to get some good photos so I do plan on stopping every now and then. So that'll leave us with 7 days in the entire month that we can relax if we don't get delayed anywhere.
Now, if I don't get sufficient funds to fly to Alaska after that month I've been there, i'll be staying in Nepal for a second month and I'll be doing a trek in the Everest region.

Well, I just made out the exact route on google earth, it's about 230km, and to be honest, in a month, that's about the max you can do. Do not underestimate the geography in Nepal, it's always up and down, so my guess is that we'll get about 12-15km done a day, if we don't stop, but I'll be taking my DSLR with me to get some good photos so I do plan on stopping every now and then. So that'll leave us with 7 days in the entire month that we can relax if we don't get delayed anywhere.
Now, if I don't get sufficient funds to fly to Alaska after that month I've been there, i'll be staying in Nepal for a second month and I'll be doing a trek in the Everest region.

..And that's the reason why I never want to be tied up with mortgages and credit repayments.

Then if you want to get away for a few months, you just say goodbye to your employer and off you go.

..And that's the reason why I never want to be tied up with mortgages and credit repayments.

Then if you want to get away for a few months, you just say goodbye to your employer and off you go.

What are you talking about? I meant that if I have enough money :s. You know what that is? The thingy that pays for everything.
Hell no that I have depts anywhere.
I really don't see why you think I have mortgages or credit repayment anywhere?

Im gonna try get myself a new camera before i go, otherwise it's a trip wasted basically :)

What month you wanna go sybil? Just needa know so i can organise funds and equipment, etc.

I want to try and get to everest base camp, but more of a fact finding mission, like asking the expedition leaders stuff, so if you "have" to stay for another month, then ill happily go along.

Im gonna try get myself a new camera before i go, otherwise it's a trip wasted basically :)

What month you wanna go sybil? Just needa know so i can organise funds and equipment, etc.

Well, funds is the main object for me too. But normaly I should have enough money by december, problem is, I'm still in school.
So you'd say we could go in Juli and August. Problem is, then it's the monsoon season, and you really don't wanna go than. So the earliest and best time I can go is in Februari-March 2010, which are also the best months to go trekking in Nepal.

What are you talking about? I meant that if I have enough money :s. You know what that is? The thingy that pays for everything.
Hell no that I have depts anywhere.
I really don't see why you think I have mortgages or credit repayment anywhere?

No no, you got me wrong.

Because in your post you were saying how you were planning to go trekking for a few months, I was saying how that's the kind of life I want to lead - no huge debts that force you to always keep the salary coming in, and thus the freedom to get away for a few months sometimes.

No no, you got me wrong.

Because in your post you were saying how you were planning to go trekking for a few months, I was saying how that's the kind of life I want to lead - no huge debts that force you to always keep the salary coming in, and thus the freedom to get away for a few months sometimes.

Aah yes, same here, indeedio

I have ways to make money :) (BI related, unfortunately)

I got a lonely planet guide book thingy today for trekking in nepal. Had a quick flick through it, and it says the best months to go is sept-may(basically autumn, winter and spring).

Just pick a date/time and ill arrange moneys.

As I said before, It will be in Februari or March of 2010

can i come?

Depends.....

For the Mt. Everest thing or the nepal thing?

And yes....i guess

Ofcourse you can, I mean, it's a free world, you go and stand where you want. and exact date will probably be determined somewhere in April or May next year.

It's always more fun with other people anyway, communal gear can be split, instead of carrying it all yourself. If you break a leg, then someone is there to either finish you off or carry you back to town

If you break a leg, then someone is there to either finish you off

..And even if you don't.

$30,000

I'd powerwalk up that motherfucker.

most useless comment in this thread.

Yup.

The sherpas can power walker up that fucker, but their like 5', have the strongest legs amongst anyone and have blood so thick(to absorb more oxygen) that it probably wouldnt flow out if they cut themselves.

Most people struggle to make it to the south/north col, let alone the summit. And Everest isnt the hardest mountain on earth

This kinda inspired me, i think there should be totse like stickers or something that people can slap anywhere.

Steal a jet full of bricks with TOTSE carved in them and fly it into the peak. It'd be far more epic.

-=-Kante-=-