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Old 2008-07-12, 00:15
Incubustis Incubustis is offline
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Default Phenylaline/tyrosine, amphetamine, dopamine agonists, etc

Sorry for another adderall thread, but I have alot of questions that I hope some you might be able to assist me with.

I have been on a little bit of an adderall binge, which isn't a hardcore binge (I still sleep/eat, and I have valium at the moment so thats helps tremendously), just some excessive usage, and i'm looking for any substances to make my using as safe and efficient as possible.

L-Phenylalanine - How effective would it be to take L-phenylalanine (or tyrosine) while abusing adderall? Any negative effects I should worry about? Would you pre/post load, or during? How often? Would tyrosine or L-DOPA be better then L-Phen (I have heard you need to be extremely careful when using L-DOPA)?

In the last thread about JoePedo's L-Phenylalanine concoction, he said -

...but if you really want an answer to "can my body even do anything with this" - pop it during a meth crash. You'll get an answer, for your body, rather quickly.
- jp
(He is speaking of the L-Phen combo, which is suppose to help your brains dopamine levels greatly and help produce/recycle/release dopamine, maybe JP could chime in and explain it a little better, cause mine is a very vague explanation.

My question - Would it be safe to take this combo on the comedown, how would it help? What does JP mean exactly by saying "You'll get an answer, for your body, rather quickly." Is he insinuating it will work very well when you are dopamine deficient? Would it make it harder to sleep, especially with the caffeine in the mix? Any advice from you on this JP would be really appreciated (or anyone who really knows there pharmacology/neuropharmacology).

Requip - Now, would there be any benefit in adding a dopamine agonist(activates dopamine receptors, mimics dopamine) or pre/post load with it. I have access to requip, which is a dopamine agonist.

L-Theanine - Anyone have any personal experience with this, specifically with uppers? I imagine it would really help, considering it's mainly used to take away the jitters and side effects of caffeine. It is known to promote powerful immune system response , increases GABA, dopamine, and serotonin, reduce stress (mentally and physically), produce alpha waves in your brain (relaxation+alertness), and has micromolar affinities for NMDA receptors, which could help with amphetamine tolerance. (Sounds pretty useful, eh?) There is not much online about theanine yet, but I suggest you check it out if you have never heard of it. I find it works much better than 5-HTP and many people claim it is the only OTC amino acid/herb/ whatever that actually helps with anxiety/sleep/relaxing etc. It is extracted from green tea.

Propranolol - Would this be beneficial for your cardiovascular system when coming down from alot of amphetamines and have a speeding heart etc? (It is a beta blocker mainly used in the treatment of hypertension)

Huperzine A - How could this play into the mix? It is regarded pretty highly as a smart drug. It increases levels of dopamine and norepinephrine, and also acts as a NMDA receptor antagonist, which is linked to amphetamine tolerance. Sounds like it could be beneficial.

I hope I get some halfway intelligent posts and advice here on totse, but maybe this would get better results in the Bluelight AD section.

Thanks, bitches.
 
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