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# 1

2008-07-11, 02:10
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hardtown, hardstate, hardnation
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What Americans think of Muslims
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PqbQWxHIn4U
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# 2

2008-07-11, 02:22
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
I live in an area which is mostly populated by Muslims. Here it is the other way round, many of them hang around together and pick on other raced people, but I have met some which are very nice and kind people.
The minority will always be pushed around by the majority I guess.
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# 3

2008-07-11, 04:37
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
Hahaha Camel Jockey, I've never heard that one before.
They did say that more people defended the women then commended the store owner so... i guess the majority of Americans are fairly good people.
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2008-07-11, 06:51
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
Hahaha, how do I know you don't have a bomb in there?
Edit: The fellas at the end were pretty o'right.
Last edited by KING G; 2008-07-11 at 06:57.
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# 5

2008-07-11, 08:00
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
Himmler liked Muslims, "fact" he started a Muslim SS, although most SS soldiers were screened for their eyes and hair (the ultimate race) Muslims were an exception because Himmler knew they would sacrifice themselves for the cause, and for this reason believed them to be the ultimate soldier.
(That was such a cool documentary)
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# 6

2008-07-11, 11:11
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
What a bunch of ignorant crybaby hippies. Muslims are fucking sand scum.
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# 7

2008-07-11, 13:39
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Waffle Stomper
Muslims are fucking sand scum.
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Every single one of them? Really? What about Muslims from countries without massive quantities of sand?
People who actually believe hateful shit like you're spouting are just as much a part of the problem as radical muslims.
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# 8

2008-07-11, 15:02
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
ROFL those 6 people are fucking awesome and the 22 have potential.
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# 9

2008-07-11, 16:49
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Indiana
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Apodyopsis
The minority will always be pushed around by the majority I guess.
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Fuck off Acolyte! 
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# 10

2008-07-11, 17:29
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Waffle Stomper
What a bunch of ignorant crybaby hippies. Muslims are fucking sand scum.
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This.
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# 11

2008-07-11, 17:42
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
Good video Hardman.
For those who do not like Muslims:
Why do you think Muslims are scum? I am curious, because I know a few and they seem to be pretty damn normal.
Thanks, for correcting my error Lobo, I misspoke.
Last edited by ShoeBong; 2008-07-11 at 22:23.
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# 12

2008-07-11, 20:31
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by ShoeBong
Good video Hardman.
Why do you think Muslims are scum? I am curious, because I know a few and they seem to be pretty damn normal.
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I didnt read Hardman saying he thought muslims were scum , he merely posted a video.
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# 13

2008-07-11, 20:39
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
When I see a group of muslims getting joy out of beheading an american, this is the way they deserved to be treated. They say "Oh it wasn't ME who cut the head off!!" but no it was. If they claim they are muslim, they are supporting this. I see it this way:
If you are in a gang, a gang that is very violent and kills you have never killed a man, but you are a member of the gang. When the pigs come you still get charged for murder whether you did it or not.
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# 14

2008-07-11, 20:47
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by DOCTORGONZO409
Every single one of them? Really? What about Muslims from countries without massive quantities of sand?
People who actually believe hateful shit like you're spouting are just as much a part of the problem as radical muslims.
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Democrat convention is that way, fag 
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# 15

2008-07-11, 20:52
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
I dated a Muslim once. She was actually very attractive, but never again... NEVER AGAIN. That doesn't mean that I don't like them. Their culture is simply different. It's the polar opposite in some ways.
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2008-07-11, 21:10
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by PenisCancer
I dated a Muslim once. She was actually very attractive, but never again... NEVER AGAIN. That doesn't mean that I don't like them. Their culture is simply different. It's the polar opposite in some ways.
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She proably had some crazy bush , amirite ?
lawl
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# 17

2008-07-11, 21:11
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Lobo
She proably had some crazy bush , amirite ?
lawl
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That big ass trenchcoat style dress is definately hiding something.
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# 18

2008-07-11, 22:25
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by StreetThug
That big ass trenchcoat style dress is definately hiding something.
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So wrong, but entertaining none the less.
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# 19

2008-07-11, 22:53
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Lobo
She proably had some crazy bush , amirite ?
lawl
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lolz! 
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# 20

2008-07-11, 23:59
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
Go to Iraq, see how you are treated. There is a large population of Muslims here and it's the same thing, only the exact opposite of the video.
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# 21

2008-07-12, 00:25
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
Considering the way Muslims treat women, and people who don't believe in Islam, I have no problem then treating them like fucking dirt in turn.
I have no problem with the Arabic race, because a skin color does not cause one to blow oneself up in the name of an imaginary god or kill their own family members because of some code of honor. I do have a problem with their religion. I am a libertarian so I believe they should be allowed to freely practice it, but that's not going to stop me from hating them or discriminating against them myself. If they don't like it, tough. I get hated and discriminated against for being an atheist and nobody's making a documentary film about that on ABC.
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# 22

2008-07-12, 00:40
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
"30 Days," a tv show from the guy who did "Supersize Me" did a doc on atheist. It was pretty good.
Even though I don't agree with your view on Muslims, at least you have a reason you feel that way and you stated your argument in a respectable manner.
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# 23

2008-07-12, 02:01
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by ShoeBong
Good video Hardman.
For those who do not like Muslims:
Why do you think Muslims are scum? I am curious, because I know a few and they seem to be pretty damn normal.
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They force women, even the attrative ones, to wear a ninja veil, most of their chicks have moustaches and don't put out, they come into the store and ask if we have something, then when I say no(truthfully) they don't believe me or give me shit about it, they think they're devine and have their head up their asses, they only eat meat that died in excruciating pain(cutting the head half-way off and watching it bleed to death, usually while hanging by it's leg), they believe in santallah, they usually smell like dogshit, and they are a unproductive race unworthy of living. Just like the niggers, they are just wasted life in the rest of our way. There is no need to keep them around, unless we need more opium or terror attacks, since that is all they're good for.
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# 24

2008-07-12, 02:37
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by ShoeBong
For those who do not like Muslims:
Why do you think Muslims are scum? I am curious, because I know a few and they seem to be pretty damn normal.
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I am the Infidel a non entrant into the world alah or god.
But an entrant into the world of my own.
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# 25

2008-07-12, 15:02
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by bornkiller
I am the Infidel a non entrant into the world alah or god.
But an entrant into the world of my own.
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That was proably some deep shit , if I could understand it.
+1 for the lulz.
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# 26

2008-07-12, 15:11
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by StreetThug
When I see a group of muslims getting joy out of beheading an american, this is the way they deserved to be treated. They say "Oh it wasn't ME who cut the head off!!" but no it was. If they claim they are muslim, they are supporting this. I see it this way:
If you are in a gang, a gang that is very violent and kills you have never killed a man, but you are a member of the gang. When the pigs come you still get charged for murder whether you did it or not.
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So does that mean that when they start prosecuting the Bush administration for war crimes (read: the exact same shit they're prosecuted other world leaders for in the past), that you're going to be sentenced along with them?
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# 27

2008-07-12, 18:13
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by StreetThug
When I see a group of muslims getting joy out of beheading an american, this is the way they deserved to be treated. They say "Oh it wasn't ME who cut the head off!!" but no it was. If they claim they are muslim, they are supporting this. I see it this way:
If you are in a gang, a gang that is very violent and kills you have never killed a man, but you are a member of the gang. When the pigs come you still get charged for murder whether you did it or not.
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ok, by that logic, all Germans are Nazis and want to kill the jews, every Russian person is supporting them damn commies, and all the Americans are guilty of mass genocide of the Indian people? did I leave anything out?
oh yea, IF you are a Christian you are responsible for the inquisition and every other fucked up fucking thing that ever fucking happened because of the Christians. why dont you go fuck yourself and stay off my totse, mkay?
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# 28

2008-07-12, 18:25
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Acolyte
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Waffle Stomper
What a bunch of ignorant crybaby hippies. Muslims are fucking sand scum.
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Fuck yea
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# 29

2008-07-12, 19:07
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
oh, and not to mention that the same terrorists today were called freedom fighters during the Iran contra scandal.
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# 30

2008-07-12, 20:37
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
this pisses me off these damn indians come to my counrty to work and exscape "holy" wars but still dress like there in the middle east and send all there money back to the middle east and ruin my economy ( oh yah and for all you british pussies if it wasen't for americans you idiots would be living in nazi britian and your queen would be sucking Cock for rocks with amy winehouse you fools america for life screw you britsh punks and indian cape wearing idiots
thats what i gotta say YAH AMERICA FOR LYFFFFEEEEE
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# 32

2008-07-14, 19:12
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by DOCTORGONZO409
Every single one of them? Really? What about Muslims from countries without massive quantities of sand?
People who actually believe hateful shit like you're spouting are just as much a part of the problem as radical muslims.
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this. fuck u racists
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# 33

2008-07-14, 19:28
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by the_riddler
this. fuck u racists
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Fuck you hippies , this is totse.
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# 35

2008-07-14, 22:22
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
Last edited by Lobo; 2008-07-14 at 22:29.
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# 36

2008-07-16, 20:49
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
This is what it boils down to. The news makes a fake racist event, people respond naturally and they make villains out of the people who didn't respond in the politically correct fashion. Showing the video to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, with the intent that they will brainwash them into what is neither normal or healthy human behavior.
This isn't news, this is brainwashing. News objectively reports what happens with no opinion. It does not stage fake events then tell people they are wrong for acting certain ways.
If it's wrong to act that way then why does the media need a constant barrage of multicultural propaganda to keep people line?
No, the racists here aren't disgusting what is disgusting is the multicult crowd here that buys into this bullshit little brainwashing television program.
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# 37

2008-07-16, 21:26
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Lobo
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rofl, need more <properly gauged for funniness. >
Last edited by dcbp00; 2008-07-17 at 09:04.
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# 38

2008-07-16, 23:04
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by dcbp00
ROFL need MORE!
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..err not that funny..
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# 39

2008-07-17, 00:15
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by No sketch
I am outraged with some of the posters.
Waffle Stomper - Are you kidding me? "Muslims are fucking sand scum"? Have you even been outside of the USA? Go somewhere where the majority isn't you. Try Morocco, the majority is Muslim. I guarantee you that you aren't going to feel the same way after you see that they are just other people. I commend rock_is_dead for bringing that up.
I think anyone who feels that strongly about a culture or race needs to have experience backing up their feeling. Otherwise you are just a close-minded asshole.
solopipe2.5 - Stfu acolyte. Read above ^
Oh and "ignorant hippies"? The ignorance was seen in the 22 people who didn't do shit. Even if the people agreed or didn't with the way she was being treated, they were expressing their opinion. Which leads to my own. I have my own prejudices. We all do. But I don't act upon them, or make ignorant remarks on Totse because I'm not an idiot who cannot see the triviality of something as low as racism.
So, I'll be waiting for your ...reasons, if you have any.
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go suck a camel jockey dick you fuckin terrorist those fuckin ragheads wouldnt think twice about puttin two in your dome think before you come out side your mouth again
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# 40

2008-07-17, 00:26
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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In conclusion they either side with discriminating, side against discriminating or they stay out of it all together.
Glad you got to the bottom of what American's think.
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# 41

2008-07-17, 00:53
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by solopipe2.5
go suck a camel jockey dick you fuckin terrorist those fuckin ragheads wouldnt think twice about puttin two in your dome think before you come out side your mouth again
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Sorry, I wasn't able to fully decipher your cryptic message. But, I don't believe you typed up a legitimate response to my previous post, therefore, you=ignored. Go chop chop off your dick dick.
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# 42

2008-07-17, 01:05
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
How about you get a video that shows what middle east people think of christians you stupid equal rights activist faggits.
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# 43

2008-07-17, 02:07
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by irresponsible activist
How about you get a video that shows what middle east people think of christians you stupid equal rights activist faggits.
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How about you get me a video.
And, yeah sure. Of course there are Muslims in the Middle East that think very lowly of Christians. In fact, I bet they call Christians scum and dirt. But, unless you, irresponsible activist are a Christian, your statement is not valid. In fact, a percentage of Totse members would have to be Christian in order for it to even be considered as an argument.
I know one thing for sure, I'm not Christian. I don't give a shit what Muslims think of Christians. But I believe in decent human behavior. I believe that you and others are willingly playing a vital role in the game of the destruction, the unofficial war between the members of our race.
I find that religious beliefs are the least of what we really care about. It's the culture behind the label that we put on them. It is strange to us. Anything we do not understand is intolerable to us and we turn to our ego's to lead us past the obstacle. But we will never be able to know unless we stop and understand what was in our way and why.
So, guys...
Last edited by No sketch; 2008-07-17 at 03:49.
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# 44

2008-07-17, 04:39
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
I used to be a christian, but I'm not stupid. If we go to the middle east (especially women) we have to dress to their culture. Those hypocritical fucks dress the same way over here and they complain when their feeling are hurt? Can't they be happy at least they aren't dead.
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# 45

2008-07-17, 04:53
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by irresponsible activist
I used to be a christian, but I'm not stupid. If we go to the middle east (especially women) we have to dress to their culture. Those hypocritical fucks dress the same way over here and they complain when their feeling are hurt? Can't they be happy at least they aren't dead.
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I've been there, you don't have to dress the way they do. I didn't and I still got served. I don't see how they are hypocritical. They don't complain when they have hurt feelings, they complain when they don't get service because of what they dress like.
Look beyond what America has implanted into your brain. The Iraqi war isn't but a representation of the shallow hatred that results at lack of understanding. When that hatred reaches a governmental level it can result horrifically. Our discussions are the aftermath of the big decision to start the war. It's like a chain reaction.
Ask yourself, would you still feel the same way about them if the terrorists attacks never happened? If it were Chinese or Indians or anyone else, you would still have the same feelings.
Last edited by No sketch; 2008-07-17 at 17:46.
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# 46

2008-07-17, 08:15
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
Go murica!!!
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# 47

2008-07-17, 17:44
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by irresponsible activist
I used to be a christian, but I'm not stupid. If we go to the middle east (especially women) we have to dress to their culture. Those hypocritical fucks dress the same way over here and they complain when their feeling are hurt? Can't they be happy at least they aren't dead.
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The reason so many people come to America is because they can bring their own culture here without being persecuted by others, that is the essential liberty that America was founded on. That's why they left their countries to come here because we are supposed to be accepting everyone. You don't have to agree with their views, but you should let them have them.
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2008-07-17, 18:02
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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# 49

2008-07-17, 18:05
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Azure
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What does the Spanish Inquisition have to do with anything this thread is talking about?
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# 50

2008-07-18, 05:50
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by PenisCancer
I would replace Iraq with Iran...
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LOL really fucking not. The majority of the iranian population are the least religious muslims in the world. They just pretend to be muslims because of the fucked up government. The hijab in iran is A JOKE compared to how arab women wear it.They cover like 5% of their hair and only because they are forced. When leaving iran 99% of iranian women take off their veil. Before you say anything stupid, I was in iran this winter.
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# 51

2008-07-18, 17:41
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
Lol, some of you guys acted big on the net, but you're nothing in real life.
I dare you to go up to some big black guy and call him a nigger.
Sad racists n00bs you are indeed! 
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# 52

2008-07-18, 20:32
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by 2007/08 is really GAY
I dare you to go up to some big black guy and call him a nigger.
Sad racists n00bs you are indeed! 
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You're pretty racist yourself if you think that calling a random "big black guy" would automatically lead to for the person verbally abusing him's comeuppance.
Just thought I'd ruin your post 
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# 53

2008-07-18, 22:19
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
If they'd quit blowing up everything in sight then people wouldn't hate them so much. It's their fault.
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# 54

2008-07-18, 22:44
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by adamatomic41
If they'd quit blowing up everything in sight then people wouldn't hate them so much. It's their fault.
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What about black Muslims? Your statement makes you sound ignorant, because it is.
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# 55

2008-07-18, 23:23
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
I hate how posts always go from the topic... to facile discussions amongst 2 or 3 people. P.S. I fucking love the word 'facile' - appearing neat and comprehensive only by ignoring the true complexities of an issue. *****
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2008-07-20, 03:31
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by ShoeBong
What about black Muslims? Your statement makes you sound ignorant, because it is.
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I don't think he would comprehend that most Muslims aren't Arab...
It'd blow his mind m8y.
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# 57

2008-07-20, 19:17
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by 2007/08 is really GAY
Lol, some of you guys acted big on the net, but you're nothing in real life.
I dare you to go up to some big black guy and call him a nigger.
Sad racists n00bs you are indeed! 
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THIS RIghT HERE
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# 58

2008-07-20, 21:01
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YOU ARE GA
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by ventrman
I think you need to get your facts straight. Muslim, is not a race. It is a religion.
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People always seem to forget this.
Fuck Islam. Fuck Christianity. Fuck Judaism. Fuck XXXXX
I am not a racist. I do not judge people for their race. I judge them for their decisions. If they decide to belong to a religion, I look down on them. I can't help it. I'd probably never declare it. I may still respect them in other ways, but in philosophy I will never view them as my equals. Arrogant, yes. Absolutely. But it's hard not to be when you see how fallacious religious beliefs are.
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# 59

2008-07-20, 21:04
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
well, virtually all of them were stupid. except for the people that just said, "what a dick, i'm leaving," those girls were idiots.
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# 60

2008-07-20, 21:09
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by glutamate antagonist
People always seem to forget this.
Fuck Islam. Fuck Christianity. Fuck Judaism. Fuck XXXXX
I am not a racist. I do not judge people for their race. I judge them for their decisions. If they decide to belong to a religion, I look down on them. I can't help it. I'd probably never declare it. I may still respect them in other ways, but in philosophy I will never view them as my equals. Arrogant, yes. Absolutely. But it's hard not to be when you see how fallacious religious beliefs are.
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its hard to understand how you think that your beliefs make you superior to them. it is actions that ought be judged, and in this, you have just been superseded by most religious people, who do not look down on everyone that doesn't think like them. atheism is as bad as any religion, if you use your own personal dogma of choice to label, judge, and harm others.
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# 61

2008-07-20, 21:09
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
I'm not an all around racist, im not against blacks, jews etc.
but I absolutely despise muslims, if you have ever been to Britain or educate yourself on what is going on there you will realize how much of a problem they are. check out some of pat condells videos just to scratch the surface.
my point is that its not just americans that hate muslims, almost all of the world does.
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# 62

2008-07-20, 21:17
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Ify
I'm not an all around racist, im not against blacks, jews etc.
but I absolutely despise muslims, if you have ever been to Britain or educate yourself on what is going on there you will realize how much of a problem they are. check out some of pat condells videos just to scratch the surface.
my point is that its not just americans that hate muslims, almost all of the world does.
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islam is - not - a - race.
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2008-07-20, 21:29
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
I think every religious person should experience this daily.
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2008-07-20, 21:30
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by danzig
its hard to understand how you think that your beliefs make you superior to them. it is actions that ought be judged, and in this, you have just been superseded by most religious people, who do not look down on everyone that doesn't think like them.
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What would you think of people who believed that the world was flat?
I somehow wish that religious belief wasn't totally unscientific.
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Originally Posted by danzig
atheism is as bad as any religion, if you use your own personal dogma of choice to label, judge, and harm others.
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This isn't about atheism. I don't hold these anti-religious beliefs because I'm a [weak] atheist. I'm a weak atheist because I hold these beliefs, the belief that evidence, logic and reality should come first, and that superstition, unfounded belief and "faith" are all over-worshipped relics of a more primitive phase of the human race.
My judgment of people is not harmful. It's just I can't help but pity people who get suckered into believing the shit they teach in churches and mosques.
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2008-07-20, 21:33
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Ify
I'm not an all around racist, im not against blacks, jews etc.
but I absolutely despise muslims, if you have ever been to Britain or educate yourself on what is going on there you will realize how much of a problem they are. check out some of pat condells videos just to scratch the surface.
my point is that its not just americans that hate muslims, almost all of the world does.
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Pat Condell is a retard, if you can't see through his lies and hypocrisy when it comes to religion then you're a blind sheep.
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# 66

2008-07-20, 21:44
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Azure
Pat Condell is a retard, if you can't see through his lies and hypocrisy when it comes to religion then you're a blind sheep.
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Can I ask what lies exactly has he told?
And specific examples, no generalisations, if you please.
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2008-07-20, 23:19
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by MR.Kitty55
I think every religious person should experience this daily.
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This.
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# 68

2008-07-21, 00:37
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by MR.Kitty55
I think every religious person should experience this daily.
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that is wrong. that would make you evil, and, incidentally, probably confirm everything they believe. a self fulfilling prophecy.
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2008-07-23, 00:56
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by mvpena
Don't feed the trolls in this thread. If it weren't for Muslims, America would have never learned guerrilla warfare. My father's side of the family are the Muslims in the southern Philippines. The very same ones that taught American soldiers how to fight in places like Vietnam. US soldiers, to this day, still go to the same exact places in the southern Philippines for such training.
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I hope that's not directed towards me. Is that true though? I've never heard of the US outsourcing training to the Philippines...interesting.
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# 70

2008-07-23, 01:19
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Azure
I hope that's not directed towards me.
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Nope, I only read the first few posts in this thread. But yeah, its how my father got into the US Navy.
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2008-07-23, 01:23
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by mvpena
Nope, I only read the first few posts in this thread. But yeah, its how my father got into the US Navy.
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Oh, all teh racismZ....don't worry about that hahaha, 99.99999% of those faggots don't say anything online. Hell, I've seen one instance of a poster admitting he's only racist online. They're all pussies who can only speak up on teh interw3bz.
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# 72

2008-07-23, 01:31
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Azure
Is that true though? I've never heard of the US outsourcing training to the Philippines...interesting.
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Just found an article written 2 weeks ago on GlobalSecurity.org called "U.S., Philippines Special Operations Forces Train Together as Part of Flash Piston" Link
They've been doing shit like this since Vietnam.
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2008-07-23, 01:33
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by mvpena
Just found an article written 2 weeks ago on GlobalSecurity.org called "U.S., Philippines Special Operations Forces Train Together as Part of Flash Piston" Link
They've been doing shit like this since Vietnam.
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Thanks for the source, good reading so far.
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# 74

2008-07-24, 08:08
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
aww i thought white people where smarter then this.
i guess the only way to be American is white.... 
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2008-07-24, 21:21
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by Azure
1:10 of that guys video- Condells exact words were "Here in the UK religion was always pretty dormant until Muslims came along burning books and passing death sentences and generally demanding special treatment for no good reason. But they've shown everybody else what can be achieved by bullying and intimidation so now every crackpot in the country feels entitled to respect for their beliefs."
Condell is claiming that it was a direct result of Islam's intimidation that sparked a religious uprising in the UK, which is entirely untrue. Implying that it was a direct result of "book burning and death sentences" is absurd to say the least. Religion has played an active role in most parts of British life for damn near 1000 years, and he's playing it down in order to gain support for his implication of Islam.
I suppose he also neglects to remember Northern Ireland is apart of the UK...but that's okay Pat, you're not obviously up on anything other than pseudo-intellectual insults.
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Considering the implications of the word dormant, I don't think it was "active" in the same sense as it is now as before Islam. Obviously, he didn't mean forever. Is that still what you actually believe? That this guy hasn't heard of the Crusades or anything similar?
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Originally Posted by Azure
"The very people who have clearly made no attempt to think for themselves demand respect for their beliefs".
His words provide a direct comparison of his followers to the followers of any other preacher. Irony at it's best.
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Right here, you're generalising more than anyone else. You're saying that all of "his followers" are unquestioning. How many do you know exist?
There are idiots who will let other people do the thinking for them everywhere; what they choose to follow is not fault of the person being followed.
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Originally Posted by Azure
"People wish Muslims would just shut up and move on with their lives". Great, so you want them to shut up, so you make another inflammatory video to gain a bit of fame while also causing your followers to attack Islam moreso. Wonderful logic, is it not?
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His followers? Again, where are they? I'm sure that the isn't an army of Condell-following zealots out there ready to attack Islam. There is, however, an army of zealots out there ready to attack people like Condell... they're called radical Muslims. I guess radical Jews and Christians could be thrown into that, but their numbers are far inferior to those of Islam's.
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Originally Posted by Azure
3:10- I'm not sure why he mentioned Condells offensive remarks, he states on nearly every video he doesn't care about anyone else's opinion or if he offends anyone, and that's fine. However, don't muddy the free speech waters. Several of the things he says would be construed as libel, which isn't protected by any free speech measures in any country. "Desert Nomad with a psychological disorder" comes to mind in this instance.
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Boo fucking hoo. If that were libel, then there are thousands of things which could be taken as libel. What's the point of free speech if it's so limited that you can't criticise with any impact? do you seriously believe that such tame speech should be outlawed?
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Originally Posted by Azure
1:22 of Condells vid; "A dishonest comment which seeks to describe any criticism of Islam as some sort of hate crime". In this video alone I've spotted about 5 inflammatory comments which are not criticism, but uneducated insults at best. He's attempting to state that Muslims have a chip on their shoulder, yet he goes out of his way to call Muslims "insane". Interesting.
1:40; "You never hear a peep after some Muslim murders his daughter". Not true, I've seen several Muslim organizations speak out against this, and unlike ole' Patty, I can provide a source(s) if you wish.
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His audience is who he's referring to, if you look at the pronoun he used. And I'm sure it's generally true. We don't hear about any condemnation of honour killings. That can be blamed on our pathetic media, though.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Right after this he makes some statements that prove he knows little to nothing about Islam. No matter how misconstrued you can take a verse, there is no verse that supports spreading Islam by violence. Of course he doesn't provide a verse to support his claim, that's just not how Mr. Condell rocks it. And of course he neglects to mention the 450 million Muslims in Indonesia, and how the majority of Muslims actually live in SE Asia, but funnily enough no Muslim army ever came close to setting foot there. Of course he didn't mention that, because it doesn't fit his agenda to spread his ignorance. And not for nothing, Islam has proven itself time and time again more merciful than Christianity, just a glance at Saladins actions towards the Jews and Christians during the Crusades, allowing them to leave with their possessions before Jerusalem was besieged. In hindsight, I'm sure many of them would have much rather stayed with the Muslims rather than walk that lonely road departing Israel in which many a Christian and Jew was robbed and murdered in cold blood, ironically by other "God serving" Christians.
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Interesting, yes, but relevant?
I don't think he'd doubt that there have been good acts by Muslims. The scary thing today is how there's a blockade against doing anything against militant Islamists, or the political influence they hold. They tried to recruit me, once. They do exist. They hang around at mosques and Muslim-filled schools here in Leicester. They are dangerous. It's a very modern threat.
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Originally Posted by Azure
2:00: "If Islam had it's way elections would be cancelled". Most Muslims live in democratic states, but of course he forgets about the 600 million Muslims or so who don't live in the Middle East or subscribe to Pan Arabism. Akin to my stating that every American is describable by a small minority in the Southern States, not entirely a fair statement to make, but again, that's how it works with his videos.
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This is what he's referring to:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...law-in-UK.html
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Originally Posted by Azure
3:00: Terrorist martyrs are rewarded with 72 virgins in Heaven? Really? I can find at least 100 clerics and several Qu'ranic verses that describe how suicide is forbidden in Islam. But yet again Condell demonstrates his lack of knowledge on a subject he choses to berate time and time again, the equivalent of a blind man having condescending opinions on the works of Monet. And of course he again uses the less than 1% minority who support terrorism to paint a broad spectrum of all Muslims, the majority of whom aren't anywhere near Arab in descent. Like the guy said in the video I provided, he does have google at his disposal, he may as well make good use of it prior to making such outlandish claims.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2002...uardianreview5
What is actually written in the book is irrelevant when that is exactly what people are being taught. Suicide bombers do go in genuinely believing that they'll find paradise from self-explosion.
What the book actually says can be debated over and over, but there is definitely a militancy about the language in it, and certain verses are militant, in the vast majority of translations.
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Originally Posted by Azure
3:10: "I think Muslim women in Britain who cover their faces are mentally ill". Again he demonstrates his lack of knowledge concerning both Islam and history in general. Patty also chooses to take the time here to throw out a few more insults, how enlightening. Had he instead devoted his time to learning a bit more about the subject he chooses to spend some much of his time debating, he could at least learn the basics of the religion instead of going off hearsay and plain ignorance found in today's society. However, Mr Condell of course takes the time to appear witty with his Mongoloid insults.
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Mental illness has a broad definition. I consider anyone who believes in a religion infected by a memetic virus, and hence mentally ill. He probably has a similar definition. I consider them particularly mentally ill if they're not forced into it. And how, exactly, does it make him ignorant? For all you know, he could know every last bit about Islam, and still hold the same opinion.
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# 76

2008-07-26, 21:22
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by mvpena
Don't feed the trolls in this thread. If it weren't for Muslims, America would have never learned guerrilla warfare. My father's side of the family are the Muslims in the southern Philippines. The very same ones that taught American soldiers how to fight in places like Vietnam. US soldiers, to this day, still go to the same exact places in the southern Philippines for such training.
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That is totally untrue. We learned Guerrilla warfare from the American Indians.
The American Colonists used Guerrilla warfare against the British in the American Revolution. The were no Muslims involved there.
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# 77

2008-07-26, 21:56
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by ventrman
That is totally untrue. We learned Guerrilla warfare from the American Indians.
The American Colonists used Guerrilla warfare against the British in the American Revolution. The were no Muslims involved there.
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No shit? So is that why in WW2 the US military was still using straight line formations along the trenches. I'm sorry, but Vietnam was totally different than fighting a bunch of Brits in bright red suits in sparingly scattered tree across grassy plains.
I guess what you are saying makes sense since the Navy SEALs were around long before Vietnam. They must picked up all that good shit off of the Native Americans. 
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# 78

2008-07-28, 20:23
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Re: What Americans think of Muslims
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Originally Posted by glutamate antagonist
People always seem to forget this.
Fuck Islam. Fuck Christianity. Fuck Judaism. Fuck XXXXX
I am not a racist. I do not judge people for their race. I judge them for their decisions. If they decide to belong to a religion, I look down on them. I can't help it. I'd probably never declare it. I may still respect them in other ways, but in philosophy I will never view them as my equals. Arrogant, yes. Absolutely. But it's hard not to be when you see how fallacious religious beliefs are.
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Hey, kind question. Were you brought up in any religion?
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