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Everything *NIX This is a general forum about all forms of *nix. Post your ideas and thoughts on this wonderful OS family. Talk about your personal favorite flavor of *nix and why you think it's so much better than the others. Anything pertaining to *nix and *nix administration should be posted here.

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Old 2008-07-09, 07:03
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Question Bored with Ubuntu

I installed ubuntu a year ago, didn't understand it and gave up. Now I gave it another chance, and figured pretty much how to run the machine. The question is, when can I switch to a new distro and understand it? I was thinking fedora.
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Old 2008-07-09, 15:09
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Distro-hopping is just about the worst thing you can do. While there are some minor differences, mostly in init versions and hierarchies, Gnu is Gnu is Gnu. Fedora will have slightly different ways to do the same things as Ubuntu.

Don't try to attack Gnu-knowledge by having a wide front. The key to understanding Gnu is to penetrate deeply until you achieve Gnusatori.
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Old 2008-07-09, 21:51
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Distro-hopping is just about the worst thing you can do. While there are some minor differences, mostly in init versions and hierarchies, Gnu is Gnu is Gnu. Fedora will have slightly different ways to do the same things as Ubuntu.

Don't try to attack Gnu-knowledge by having a wide front. The key to understanding Gnu is to penetrate deeply until you achieve Gnusatori.
I'd most likely stay on fedora after I switched, as I understand, Ubuntu is kinda the noob distro.
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Old 2008-07-09, 22:36
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I'd most likely stay on fedora after I switched, as I understand, Ubuntu is kinda the noob distro.
Fedora isn't any less "noobish". If you want something hard to configure, go with Slackware. If you want something powerful, go with Gentoo.
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Old 2008-07-14, 08:16
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I installed ubuntu a year ago, didn't understand it and gave up. Now I gave it another chance, and figured pretty much how to run the machine. The question is, when can I switch to a new distro and understand it? I was thinking fedora.
Well, mastering distributions based on the linux kernel (fuck you, prome.) takes into consideration programming and understanding the linux kernel. That's a deeper level than usual, and that requires a serious interest in computer science. If you wish to better understand some essentials, then take up shell scripting and network administration. Those are some basic things.

There are a lot of topics that revolve around distros, such as x.org and xfree86. I think if you want to better control various OSs, then that's what you would do. You would study the similar things that are found in each of those operating systems.

I mean, just do Linux From Scratch if you're serious about shit.
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Old 2008-07-15, 22:36
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I think attempting to go straight into Linux From Scratch is just crazy talk.

I'd say go for Debian. It's probably a baby-step or two up from Ubuntu in Linux hardcoreness stakes, and similar enough not to confuse you. Very similar, in fact.
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Old 2008-07-16, 00:10
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There are no Gnu "hardcoreness" steps. There are distros that work for you and those that don't. If you find one you work well with, you shouldn't ditch it unless it does something very, very bad.

Linux From Scratch is effectively unusable, for the simple reason that it's Gnu with the Windows "I can install everything myself" mindset. I can only see it working if you took the time of setting up a ports tree, or installing a package manager.
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