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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-07-08, 20:59 |
boostinkyboo 
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 Acid tolerance
I ate two hits of acid last night for the first time and tripped quite hard. I have 4 tabs left, enough for me to trip with another buddy of mine in a few days. If I took these 2 hits on friday night, would my tolerance be diminished enough or would I be better off waiting longer to redose?
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#2
2008-07-08, 21:05 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
That should be enough time for you to trip again.
I know you're not at this level yet, but frequent acid use can do some fucked up stuff to you. Many of it isn't permanent but there will be some noticeable changes. I did way too much for my own good last summer and I paid for it in the fall.
So yeah, just keep it in moderation. Nothing wrong with tripping every couple weeks, but try not to make it a weekly thing.
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#3
2008-07-08, 21:06 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
what kind of fucked up things?
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2008-07-08, 21:15 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
Most prominent effect my psychedelic (ab)use had on me last summer was a noticeable psychosis in the fall. Just a general disconnection from reality and severely distorted thought patterns. There was a lot of 'cross chatter' going on in my head too. Kind of like how you see in cartoons with the good conscious and the bad conscious and they start arguing.
I also had relatively severe HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder). Basically recurring visual distortions that would come on without much of a warning. Not like a full blown flashback, but seeing minor distortion in objects and seeing a lot of what I dubbed "shadow rats." I'd see these dark shadow figures out of the corner of my eye, and when I'd look at them they'd scurry away much like a rat would. HPPD would kick into high gear whenever I got really stoned.
Other than those just some minor mental occurrences throughout the next couple months. I kind of isolated myself for a while because I was having a bit of "Syd Barret" syndrome. Like I said, I was disconnected from reality for a bit. My mind needed some recovery and that wasn't going to happen with outside stimuli like friends.
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#5
2008-07-08, 21:40 |
boostinkyboo
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Re: Acid tolerance
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Originally Posted by Darkus
Most prominent effect my psychedelic (ab)use had on me last summer was a noticeable psychosis in the fall. Just a general disconnection from reality and severely distorted thought patterns. There was a lot of 'cross chatter' going on in my head too. Kind of like how you see in cartoons with the good conscious and the bad conscious and they start arguing.
I also had relatively severe HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder). Basically recurring visual distortions that would come on without much of a warning. Not like a full blown flashback, but seeing minor distortion in objects and seeing a lot of what I dubbed "shadow rats." I'd see these dark shadow figures out of the corner of my eye, and when I'd look at them they'd scurry away much like a rat would. HPPD would kick into high gear whenever I got really stoned.
Other than those just some minor mental occurrences throughout the next couple months. I kind of isolated myself for a while because I was having a bit of "Syd Barret" syndrome. Like I said, I was disconnected from reality for a bit. My mind needed some recovery and that wasn't going to happen with outside stimuli like friends.
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Ahh, thanks for the personal insight, I've heard several stories like this actually, and other people I know have been the opposite, they've done sid every few days for months straight and been completely fine, but it's definitely something worth keeping a close eye on. I don't plan on making it a regular thing, it's just that I bought 8 tabs this week (for 2 trips with different friends) and due to conflicting work schedules the only solid 10 hour chunk of time me and my friend can find is this week. I'll probably only trip once maybe twice more this whole summer after that though (and I might go for shrooms to mix it up a bit : D) |
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#6
2008-07-08, 21:43 |
boostinkyboo
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Re: Acid tolerance
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Originally Posted by Darkus
Most prominent effect my psychedelic (ab)use had on me last summer was a noticeable psychosis in the fall. Just a general disconnection from reality and severely distorted thought patterns. There was a lot of 'cross chatter' going on in my head too. Kind of like how you see in cartoons with the good conscious and the bad conscious and they start arguing.
I also had relatively severe HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder). Basically recurring visual distortions that would come on without much of a warning. Not like a full blown flashback, but seeing minor distortion in objects and seeing a lot of what I dubbed "shadow rats." I'd see these dark shadow figures out of the corner of my eye, and when I'd look at them they'd scurry away much like a rat would. HPPD would kick into high gear whenever I got really stoned.
Other than those just some minor mental occurrences throughout the next couple months. I kind of isolated myself for a while because I was having a bit of "Syd Barret" syndrome. Like I said, I was disconnected from reality for a bit. My mind needed some recovery and that wasn't going to happen with outside stimuli like friends.
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Btw Darkus, how often did you take acid that summer you're referring to? |
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#7
2008-07-08, 21:51 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
Yeah, I was wondering about this... this weekend I'm planning to trip, but I don't think one dose will last long enough for what i'm planning to do. Will it be a waste if I re-dose near the end of my first trip? Normally I'd just grab life by the balls and do it, but I don't want to waste my money.
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#8
2008-07-08, 21:56 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
It wasn't just the acid that did it to me.
From late February until Labor Day in September:
Over 200 blotters. Keep in mind, I usually take upwards of 5 every trip, so this isn't to be confused with 200 trips.
On top of the blotters I did a fair share of liquid doses, which were definitely some of the stronger trips.
Every Friday was acid day. We called it 'Frieday'. Aside from tripping every Frieday, me and my friend went to a lot of music festivals where the entire weekend was just long trip.
About half an ounce of shrooms
Several grams of MDMA
Several grams of Ketamine
n,n-DMT 5 times
2c-i, 2c-e, DOM, DOI, MDA all a handful of times.
PCP twice
And lots and lots and lots of weed.
I was permatripping last summer to say the least.
And...uh....
I think that's it.
Edit: Oh yeah, countless nitrous cartridges. Probably in the thousands.
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#9
2008-07-08, 21:58 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
this weekend I'm planning to trip, but I don't think one dose will last long enough for what i'm planning to do. Will it be a waste if I re-dose near the end of my first trip?
How many do you have?
Take two at least.
Don't mentally blue ball yourself.
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#10
2008-07-08, 22:05 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
How many do you have?
Take two at least.
Don't mentally blue ball yourself.
never space out acid trips and try to add to it once the trip has started to decline, you already have a tolerance by that point....
take at least 2, then wait a few days before dropping again...
if anythings worth doing, its worth doing right.... buy the ticket, take the ride...
its much more worth the money to trip hard once than it would be to trip lightly or hardly at all twice...
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#11
2008-07-08, 22:09 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
^ what he said.
People usually regret not tripping hard enough.
Tripping too hard, not so much. It will be intense, sure, but it's best to see what the chemical really has to offer other than "pretty lights and swirly patterns".
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#12
2008-07-08, 22:17 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
How many do you have?
Take two at least.
Don't mentally blue ball yourself.
Oh, don't worry about amounts, I'd be taking a strong dose each time. My friend has a bottle, and he's not going to run out any time soon. Interesting thing here: one drop is the equivilant of what i would expect from three medium tabs. We're going to have to somehow divide up the drops hahahaha.
Thanks Jamaica, I'll just take MDMA in the evening, in that case.
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#13
2008-07-08, 22:19 |
jamaica0535
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Re: Acid tolerance
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Originally Posted by Darkus
^ what he said.
People usually regret not tripping hard enough.
Tripping too hard, not so much. It will be intense, sure, but it's best to see what the chemical really has to offer other than "pretty lights and swirly patterns".
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the visuals haven't ever really been that huge of a deal to me, if im not feeling flat out crazy im not tripping hard enough...oh wow, the walls can breath, big fucking deal... i like the way i see the world when tripping, everything i see when im outside looks like its straight out of a beautiful work of art... the introspection is what i trip for, ive never learned more about myself than my first acid trip, its great walking outside to a beautiful day after an acid trip just having your mind feel at peace after one hell of a fucking... |
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#14
2008-07-08, 22:21 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
You can't really divide drops. Just take them as they are. I think you'd have a grand time :)
For intense acid trips check out my thread http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2139115&page=3 there for some general tips that will assure you have a good time. Lot of good input from others.
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#15
2008-07-08, 22:25 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
when i'm on shrooms i can't really walk anywhere too far. i feel fatigued or something... is it the same with acid?
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#16
2008-07-08, 22:30 |
pinkandfluffy
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Re: Acid tolerance
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Originally Posted by Darkus
You can't really divide drops. Just take them as they are. I think you'd have a grand time :)
For intense acid trips check out my thread http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2139115&page=3 there for some general tips that will assure you have a good time. Lot of good input from others.
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We have in the past, don't worry, just because it says "Acolyte" doesn't mean I haven't had my experience. I've just never tried re-dosing and wasn't sure if it would be cost effective.
And Jam, you're right. Although I enjoy very visual trips a fair bit more the non-visual ones are often more useful and stay with you for longer. It's the fundamental shift in perception and awareness that I'm after; the Windows Media Player can be minimised. |
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#17
2008-07-08, 22:34 |
pinkandfluffy
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Re: Acid tolerance
You can't really divide drops.
If you put one drop of acid into 100ml, and then drink 50ml: Hey presto! half a drop.
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#18
2008-07-08, 23:37 |
jamaica0535
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Re: Acid tolerance
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Originally Posted by dummy
when i'm on shrooms i can't really walk anywhere too far. i feel fatigued or something... is it the same with acid?
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shrooms don't give me a very speedy feeling, im sort of lazy on them...
acid on the other hand is full of energy... my overweight friend was like "dude, i feel like running, maybe this is a sign i should run more" and then he took off into the night... I have no idea how far or long i chased him but i wasn't tired at all... only real issue is muscle tightness every now and then.. have some chewing gum for jaw clenching.. |
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#19
2008-07-08, 23:59 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
You can't really divide drops.
You can add a buffer.
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#20
2008-07-09, 03:56 |
boostinkyboo
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Re: Acid tolerance
shrooms don't give me a very speedy feeling, im sort of lazy on them...
acid on the other hand is full of energy... my overweight friend was like "dude, i feel like running, maybe this is a sign i should run more" and then he took off into the night... I have no idea how far or long i chased him but i wasn't tired at all... only real issue is muscle tightness every now and then.. have some chewing gum for jaw clenching..
I wanted gum on my trip very badly. Good call.
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#21
2008-07-09, 04:33 |
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Originally Posted by boostinkyboo
I ate two hits of acid last night for the first time and tripped quite hard. I have 4 tabs left, enough for me to trip with another buddy of mine in a few days. If I took these 2 hits on friday night, would my tolerance be diminished enough or would I be better off waiting longer to redose?
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All shall be good. |
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#22
2008-07-09, 04:45 |
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Re: Acid tolerance
severe HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder). Basically recurring visual distortions that would come on without much of a warning. Not like a full blown flashback, but seeing minor distortion in objects and seeing a lot of what I dubbed "shadow rats." I'd see these dark shadow figures out of the corner of my eye, and when I'd look at them they'd scurry away much like a rat would.
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Hey, I've had that too, but never knew what it was. Did you go to a doctor, or self-analyze?
For reference, everything Darkus said is true, also.
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