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 #1 
Old 2008-07-06, 22:27
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Default Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

I've been wondering this for a while now; if someone with ADHD takes ritalin it calms them down, whilst if someone without takes it, it acts as an upper.

Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Old 2008-07-06, 22:50
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long island
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

it doesnt calm a person with "add" down, its just easy to focus on things on an upper high
 #3 
Old 2008-07-07, 00:00
Acolyte
 
The South
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

if you're usually really hyper and jumpy and shit, you wouldn't really know what to expect from an upper. much less "feel" it. a normally really calm person gets the effects? i dunno, your question isn't really a question.
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Old 2008-07-07, 00:04
Aerogone Aerogone is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

It is indeed somewhat like a "calm", mental collectivness, when you transition from the hyperactive inattentive state of mind to under the effects of medication.

Many environmental and developmental factors can influence what is know as ADD/ADHD, but it centers on a level of discord in the dopamine systems of the brain. It could be the lack, of dopamine due to slowed production likely from a nutritional standpoint..... Joe Pedo had an intriguing thread regarding L-Phen you could look at for more information.

Or it could be a naturally high tollerance, which i believe can be brought down by, well.....

going through an extended "withdrawal", particularly in still mailable brains systems, such as teens and young adults, well..... actually it is indeed something around these parameters...
http://www.guzer.com/videos/south_park_add.php
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Old 2008-07-07, 01:05
Jack-sik Jack-sik is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

I took three concerta pills on Thursday and i was hyper active, started a fight at school and extremely emotional over my girlfriend.

I didn't sleep all night i just sat in bed holding a samurai sword. i thought i heard voices out my window.

But my friend took just 1 and he got way more fucked up lol first time for him and we both light weight 50 kg.
 #6 
Old 2008-07-07, 01:22
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long island
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

fucking new arrivals
 #7 
Old 2008-07-07, 01:28
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Maricopa Arizona
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

I personally think that using stimulants to treat kids with ADHD(if that even exists...) is bull shit. I've been told, "If you have ADHD this AMPHETAMINE will calm you down". That's fucking bull shit. I don't care how rambunctious and hyper you are, amphetamines don't have an opposite effect on you because you're "naturally hyper". That's dumb...


EDIT: I know ritalin isn't amphetamine. I was using that as an example.
 #8 
Old 2008-07-07, 01:57
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on a pharm
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

who the fuck opened the reg...
 #9 
Old 2008-07-07, 02:43
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

I don't have ADD or ADHD but I have problems focusing so after talking with my doctor he gave me ritalin for whenever i want (I love him, but it makes sense).

You don't feel any different but I can tell when I do take it I'm focused because by the time it wears off I'm really unfocused. Each medication for focusing is different so I recomend you find the right one, and DON'T take to much, cause you will feel to fucked up.

It would help anybody, you don't feel hyper I guess it's like when you have a redbull when you're studying in order to focus more, it's not like the red bull actually makes you hyper.
 #10 
Old 2008-07-07, 02:57
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Maricopa Arizona
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bozoyoro
I don't have ADD or ADHD but I have problems focusing so after talking with my doctor he gave me ritalin for whenever i want (I love him, but it makes sense).

You don't feel any different but I can tell when I do take it I'm focused because by the time it wears off I'm really unfocused. Each medication for focusing is different so I recomend you find the right one, and DON'T take to much, cause you will feel to fucked up.

It would help anybody, you don't feel hyper I guess it's like when you have a redbull when you're studying in order to focus more, it's not like the red bull actually makes you hyper.



Wouldn't that mean you DO feel different when you take them?


I remember one time in tenth grade when I got a hold of 10 concerta. I chewed 3 of them and went to hang out with some friends. I didn't feel gakked, but I was in a really good mood. I ended up taking all of them except for 2 of them within 3 or 4 hours(not chewing all of them though). I stayed up all fucking night drawing this ridiculously detailed picture and couldn't sleep and had a TERRIBLE crash. It was worse then meth.
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Old 2008-07-07, 03:09
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long island
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

It was worse then meth.

fucking new arrivals

5char
 #12 
Old 2008-07-07, 03:18
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Maricopa Arizona
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

5char


I meant the crash.
 #13 
Old 2008-07-07, 03:18
Aerogone Aerogone is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack-sik
I took three concerta pills on Thursday and i was hyper active, started a fight at school and extremely emotional over my girlfriend.

I didn't sleep all night i just sat in bed holding a samurai sword. i thought i heard voices out my window.

But my friend took just 1 and he got way more fucked up lol first time for him and we both light weight 50 kg.


thats just because you are an over emotional Kidot.
 #14 
Old 2008-07-07, 03:28
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

Amphetamines in small amounts makes a person temporarily mentally sharper. They can react faster, they can focus and they can think clearly.

For a person who Is already hyperactive, the small doses of amphetamines would not increase their already high energy by a noticeable amount, but it WOULD increase their concentration and focus, which is what they need.

In a person who does not need the drugs, it would increase their energy, concentration, increase confidence and up their mental and physical quickness (Like in the german blitzkrieg, where infantry, tankers and airmen were given Methamphetamine laced chocolate and snacks.) In larger doses, the effects will be amplified and you'll become "high".

I think that's about it. I could be wrong about something, though.
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Old 2008-07-07, 03:33
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Maricopa Arizona
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

[QUOTE=JustAnotherAsshole;10178939]Amphetamines in small amounts makes a person temporarily mentally sharper. They can react faster, they can focus and they can think clearly.

For a person who Is already hyperactive, the small doses of amphetamines would not increase their already high energy by a noticeable amount, but it WOULD increase their concentration and focus, which is what they need.

In a person who does not need the drugs, it would increase their energy, concentration, increase confidence and up their mental and physical quickness (Like in the german blitzkrieg, where infantry, tankers and airmen were given Methamphetamine laced chocolate and snacks.) In larger doses, the effects will be amplified and you'll become "high".

I think that's about it. I could be wrong about something, though.[/QUOTE

Good point.
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Old 2008-07-08, 21:46
Aerogone Aerogone is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

Like in the german blitzkrieg, where infantry, tankers and airmen were given Methamphetamine laced chocolate and snacks.

Seriously, Hitler is a prime example of what meth can do to people...... motherfucking tweaker. :D

mmmm.... Luftwaffe Schokolade:D
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Old 2008-07-08, 23:50
JustAnotherAsshole JustAnotherAsshole is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

Seriously, Hitler is a prime example of what meth can do to people...... motherfucking tweaker. :D

mmmm.... Luftwaffe Schokolade:D

He started every day with an Injection of Meth.

The more you know! :D
 #18 
Old 2008-07-09, 19:15
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East of West
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

Quote:
Originally Posted by house
who the fuck opened the reg...


Werd dog.
 #19 
Old 2008-07-09, 19:27
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on a pharm
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

Werd dog.

you're a new arrival, you arent supposed to agree with me

Mad
 #20 
Old 2008-07-10, 11:07
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

I took the shit for years it certanly helped me developing a taste in Amphetamines.
But its kinda fucked up kids get them fed for years and they dont expect them to get fucked up later in life....

Thanks a whole fucking lot Doc Mad
 #21 
Old 2008-07-10, 17:00
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Florida USA
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

It effects them the same. It just brings ADHD people to a state of being somewhat normal.
 #22 
Old 2008-07-10, 18:15
The Tripper The Tripper is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

fucking new arrivals

It's not new arrivals...It's stupid new arrivals.
 #23 
Old 2008-07-10, 18:18
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long island
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

The Tripper? thats gotta be the worst name Ive ever seen

its such a failed attempt of trying to hard to be epic
 #24 
Old 2008-07-10, 19:53
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East of West
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

you're a new arrival, you arent supposed to agree with me

Mad

Tru dat
 #25 
Old 2008-07-10, 22:07
ingutted ingutted is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

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Originally Posted by RichardPryor
I personally think that using stimulants to treat kids with ADHD(if that even exists...) is bull shit. I've been told, "If you have ADHD this AMPHETAMINE will calm you down". That's fucking bull shit. I don't care how rambunctious and hyper you are, amphetamines don't have an opposite effect on you because you're "naturally hyper". That's dumb...


EDIT: I know ritalin isn't amphetamine. I was using that as an example.


shut the fuck up. its not to calm me down physically, its to calm you mentally. and it fucking works.
 #26 
Old 2008-07-11, 02:06
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Maricopa Arizona
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

shut the fuck up. its not to calm me down physically, its to calm you mentally. and it fucking works.


haha You must have forgotten to take it today...
 #27 
Old 2008-07-11, 04:12
ingutted ingutted is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

haha You must have forgotten to take it today...

actually i took it today, just a recreational dosage so i was a bit tweaked.
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Old 2008-07-11, 18:20
ad4mpwny00 ad4mpwny00 is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

Eck dont fuck with Ritalin.
recently i got a bunch for free and It was terrible snorting line after line. while holding a Bowie Knife in my hands waiting for the man who had broke into my house to try and kill me. The comedown is worse than anything ever.
 #29 
Old 2008-07-11, 18:29
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GRAVEDIGGAZ - DIARY OF A MADMA
Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ad4mpwny00
Eck dont fuck with Ritalin.
recently i got a bunch for free and It was terrible snorting line after line. while holding a Bowie Knife in my hands waiting for the man who had broke into my house to try and kill me. The comedown is worse than anything ever.


caffeine overdoes comedown is worse
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Old 2008-07-11, 18:43
ad4mpwny00 ad4mpwny00 is offline
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Default Re: Ritalin effects - those with ADHD vs. those without.

caffeine overdoes comedown is worse
no not after doing it for like 2 days straight
 
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