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 #1 
Old 2008-07-02, 01:24
Achilles Armour Achilles Armour is offline
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Default Is acid dangerous?

I can't decide if I want to try it. I tried shrooms and loved em but they're rare around here. I hear you can go crazy on acid. How does that work? Is it like every so many people someone will try it once and then end up one of those insane homeless people talking to themselves all the time?

Or is it like you can take it over and over again and then by chance lose your mind on a trip? What makes you go crazy? Is it bad acid or a bad reaction to acid?
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Old 2008-07-02, 01:37
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Default Re: Is acid dangerous?

I can't decide if I want to try it. I tried shrooms and loved em but they're rare around here. I hear you can go crazy on acid. How does that work?


You don't go crazy, you get overwhelmed by everything and it may be too intense so you just start acting "insane."

Is it like every so many people someone will try it once and then end up one of those insane homeless people talking to themselves all the time?


No, that will NOT happen.

Or is it like you can take it over and over again and then by chance lose your mind on a trip?


No, that will NOT happen either. But moderation is key, I would recommend dosing no more than once a month.

What makes you go crazy?


A flood of a subtype of serotonin, 5-HTA2 to your brain.

Is it bad acid or a bad reaction to acid?


If it's bad acid, it could be a research chemical, look them up on erowid, and if you "lose your mind" for a few hours but are back down to normal soon then that would not necessarily be a "bad" reaction to acid, it would likely be that you were not prepared for the intensity and maybe did not have the right set/setting.

Hope I helped a little. Plus you have already done alot of shrooms, you'll have a blast.
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Old 2008-07-02, 01:39
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yea you're instantly gonna go insane and homeless if you drop acid, not only that but your brain will bleed...
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Old 2008-07-02, 01:39
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No, it's actually quite safe. Acid is one of those drugs that the only danger is what you do on your trip. (Be is walk into traffic, light fires, what have you) I've never heard anyone losing their mind on a trip to the point of permanent damage, unless, they took some extreme amount of hits. As far as homeless people go, they are usually just insane from mental illness...

Long story short: Yes, it's safe. If you're worried, have someone sober babysit you and you will be completely fine.
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Old 2008-07-02, 01:49
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i think i heard of meta doing something like 65 hits all at once and he is still normal. the more hits you take the more instense it gets. you will rarely come into contact of an amount of acid big enough to overdose on. in fact i doubt you ever will in your life unless your mass producing it. acid is completely safe. i would say safer than weed if you dont do it daily like sid barret.
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Old 2008-07-02, 01:50
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no its not
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Old 2008-07-02, 02:05
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there actually was an overdose a while ago over here in Norcal, i saved the article from the news paper...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1112386/LSDOD.jpg
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:05
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Everyone has heard stories about how their friend's uncle's co-worker's son can't stand to be closer than 1 foot to a wall anymore because he thought he was being strangled by hands coming out of them while on acid.

I think thats just bullshit propaganda, though.

But thats not to say that if you have mental problems that acid wont catalyze said problems.
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:11
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Default Re: Is acid dangerous?

Acid is no more dangerous than shrooms, which makes it one of the safest drugs.

The commute you do everyday in your car is a million times more dangerous than even heavy acid use. Have fun.
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:16
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Psychedelics are only dangerous if abused and used improperly.

And yes, you most definitely can go crazy. Look at the people who have been doing acid frequently since the 60s. A lot of them are totally insane.

Moderation people.
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:20
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About as dangerous as taking a walk down the street.

It could end badly if you're very unlucky, or if you act stupidly, but otherwise, it's fine.
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:36
Arrow2brain Arrow2brain is offline
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On a completely unrelated note, do people actually put strychnine in acid or is that a myth?

My buddy is convinced that he was sold some strychnine laced acid because of the extremely bitter tasting blotter and the hellish morning after... But then again he IS known for being full of shit.
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:39
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On a completely unrelated note, do people actually put strychnine in acid or is that a myth?

My buddy is convinced that he was sold some strychnine laced acid because of the extremely bitter tasting blotter and the hellish morning after... But then again he IS known for being full of shit.


think about it, why would they want to kill their customers?
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:39
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On a completely unrelated note, do people actually put strychnine in acid or is that a myth?

My buddy is convinced that he was sold some strychnine laced acid because of the extremely bitter tasting blotter and the hellish morning after... But then again he IS known for being full of shit.


yeah dude thats completely fucking retarded, you need to slap your friend around for being so stupid. as far as the bitter taste, it was probably a DOx compound or something.
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:47
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think about it, why would they want to kill their customers?

Actually strychnine in small doses was used medically not too long ago.

...it was probably a DOx compound or something.

Thats what I proposed, but he wasn't too convinced. He says he has done DOB a few times (as have I), and from the way he described it, it didn't sound like anything similiar. But seeing as I haven't tried any other DOx drug, it'd be ignorant to think I have knowledge concerning how they'd make me feel without having tried them.

And even if you completely covered a piece of blotter with a DOx compound, there still wouldn't be enough to have any effect.. would there?
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:53
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Thats what I proposed, but he wasn't too convinced. He says he has done DOB a few times (as have I), and from the way he described it, it didn't sound like an RC.

And even if you completely covered a piece of blotter with a DOx compound, there still wouldn't be enough to have any effect.. would there?

i dont know, i've never done a DOx chem, and i dont plan on it.
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:57
Arrow2brain Arrow2brain is offline
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i dont know, i've never done a DOx chem, and i dont plan on it.

Good. Its like a physically uncomfortable acid trip that last 12+ hours.

I definately wanna try 2c-i, though.
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Old 2008-07-03, 00:01
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a friend of mine, who is 28, took roughly 50 tabs of acid.
and i have no idea the dosage, but i know that they were fresh, because i dosed from the same batch of the ones he took, just a few days before.

and believe me, he was completely fucked up for a month afterward. not tripping, but completely fucking insane. he tried to steal another friend of mines identity, failing and pissing off every single one of his friends. he also broke into my sisters house, and his sisters house and stole a few things.

hes still quite fucked up.
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Old 2008-07-03, 00:03
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risk of trying shrooms > risk of trying acid

so unless youve changed your views on psychedelics, go for it.
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Old 2008-07-03, 00:32
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this thread is of interest to me, because i recently paid 150 dollars for 2000 mics of LSD, and consumed it by 500 mic portions at 1 hour intervals for 4 hours...

LSD can NOT, repeat chemically can NOT create a mental illness. what it CAN do, is bring forth pre-existing tendencies and conditions that have not yet manifested. if you have been treated for depression or similar issues, i would recommend against starting with a full dose, try a third. LSD temporarily destroys the brains ability to reject absurd, useless and impertinent connections. this creates a chaotic blending of sensory functions, thoughts, and emotions. it will also find your little demons and let them loose on everything.

LSD CAN indeed be contaminated with strychnine, in fact it most likely is, since most LSD now a days, would have been made in a darkroom containing photography chemicals. however, there is not enough strychnine in a thousand hits to harm you. LSD is the most powerful drug, weight wise, and i don't know of any other chemical that effect you in any way, in the microgram range.
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Old 2008-07-03, 00:40
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Default Re: Is acid dangerous?

I know several people who say acid "killed their happiness". They felt emotionally numb and distant after taking acid. Usually that's just a first reaction to having a bad trip, and it passes. But acid can bring out all of your repressed memories and realities that you don't want to face. When you're having a bad trip, all the things you don't want to think about will be put right up in your face, and you can't ignore it. That's why it's very important to take steps in ensuring that you'll have a good trip, otherwise you'll be in complete mental madness.

After the trip is over, and the "hangover" has passed... you'll more or less be back to normal. You'll take along plenty of insights and thoughts with you, but you won't turn into a crazy person.

Moderation is key. The crazy acid freaks are the ones who do it daily.
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Old 2008-07-03, 01:47
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No, acid is not dangerous. Acid is a compound which sits around being perfectly unaware of it's own existence, and quite content with it's lack of influence over anything.

Whether acid is dangerous to you is a more rational question. No one but you can know that, really - if you've taken shrooms, you may have had the intensity, but not the duration that lsd brings. You have to be prepared to go with the flow, to deal with the positives and negatives that come up along the way, to challenge yourself and to accept new things, and well.... enjoy the weirdness.

In the end, whatever state of mind you're in, someone can put you in a box as "depressed" or whatever, but it's set and setting which will really decide your trip, and the impact.
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Old 2008-07-03, 01:49
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Moderation is key. The crazy acid freaks are the ones who do it daily.

hey. im a functioning member of society. i am not a freak. and i do it almost daily.
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Old 2008-07-03, 02:28
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Default Re: Is acid dangerous?

As you can tell by the replies, it is safe. The only dangers are flipping out - and if that does not happen the first time, it is not very likely to happen on subsequent trips. And if you\'ve done shrooms it is the same thing as acid, more or less. The only other danger would be in doing something stupid while tripping.


I offer myself as proof that acid is safe. I\'ve had more hits of acid than any 4 people will have their entire lifetime I would be willing to bet and I am perfectly fine. No physical damage, no mental damage, never had a bad trip or a flashback.
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Old 2008-07-03, 07:28
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and i do it almost daily.

You brave soul.
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Old 2008-07-03, 10:32
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Originally Posted by Relentless
there actually was an overdose a while ago over here in Norcal, i saved the article from the news paper...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1112386/LSDOD.jpg


How the hell do you mistake a vial of Acid for Speed?
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Old 2008-07-03, 14:24
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Originally Posted by Relentless
there actually was an overdose a while ago over here in Norcal, i saved the article from the news paper...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1112386/LSDOD.jpg


That doesn't say he died of an overdose, it says the cause of death is unknown.

What they really mean is that he died of internal injuries from the police beating.
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Old 2008-07-03, 14:52
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Just do it.
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Old 2008-07-03, 18:54
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As you can tell by the replies, it is safe. The only dangers are flipping out - and if that does not happen the first time, it is not very likely to happen on subsequent trips. And if you\'ve done shrooms it is the same thing as acid, more or less. The only other danger would be in doing something stupid while tripping.


I offer myself as proof that acid is safe. I\'ve had more hits of acid than any 4 people will have their entire lifetime I would be willing to bet and I am perfectly fine. No physical damage, no mental damage, never had a bad trip or a flashback.


the whole spinal fluid thing keeps confusing me, because i see conflicting reports. do you have any concrete info on the whole thing?
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Old 2008-07-03, 20:47
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Originally Posted by Achilles Armour
I can't decide if I want to try it. I tried shrooms and loved em but they're rare around here. I hear you can go crazy on acid. How does that work? Is it like every so many people someone will try it once and then end up one of those insane homeless people talking to themselves all the time?

Or is it like you can take it over and over again and then by chance lose your mind on a trip? What makes you go crazy? Is it bad acid or a bad reaction to acid?


If you have any sort of latent mental disorder it could possibly bring it out, but if you have a latent mental disorder its gonna show up some time or another.... basically if your family has a history of schizophrenia, or bi-polar disorder or you have either of these i wouldnt take them... but meta seems pretty alright after taking something like 75 hits, and i think he said he has bi-polar disorder or something....

i read somewhere about a psychiatrist curing a girl of schizophrenia with repeated high doses of LSD...

but no its really a very physically safe drug, it will very likely change the way you think and see the world.... but i have never viewed this as a negative thing from my experiences. Its a wonderful experience, take 1 or 2 hits for your first time. LSD blew any amount of euphoria i have ever experienced from any other drug out of the water, happiness or ecstasy does not begin to describe it... if i took the happiest moment of my life up until that point and magnified it by about a thousand times it might get close... it felt like the collective joy of the universe... At that point in my first trip i thought i was insane, i couldn't even remember what sanity even felt like because it seemed like so long ago that i had felt sane, but i was still able to tell myself that whatever sanity was, it would be back by the time the sun came up... It is a humbling experience, as joepedo said somewhere else, expect to grow up a few hundred years in about 8 hours...

If your first acid trip is anything like mine, expect to have decades worth of thoughts and revelations racing through your head, its astounding how much your sense of time is distorted. I closed my eyes for what felt like days having countless thoughts connecting everyone and everything, and it all made sense... and then i opened my eyes to see that only 2 minutes had passed since i closed my eyes...
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Old 2008-07-03, 21:29
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If you have any sort of latent mental disorder it could possibly bring it out, but if you have a latent mental disorder its gonna show up some time or another.... basically if your family has a history of schizophrenia, or bi-polar disorder or you have either of these i wouldnt take them... but meta seems pretty alright after taking something like 75 hits, and i think he said he has bi-polar disorder or something....

i read somewhere about a psychiatrist curing a girl of schizophrenia with repeated high doses of LSD...

but no its really a very physically safe drug, it will very likely change the way you think and see the world.... but i have never viewed this as a negative thing from my experiences. Its a wonderful experience, take 1 or 2 hits for your first time. LSD blew any amount of euphoria i have ever experienced from any other drug out of the water, happiness or ecstasy does not begin to describe it... if i took the happiest moment of my life up until that point and magnified it by about a thousand times it might get close... it felt like the collective joy of the universe... At that point in my first trip i thought i was insane, i couldn't even remember what sanity even felt like because it seemed like so long ago that i had felt sane, but i was still able to tell myself that whatever sanity was, it would be back by the time the sun came up... It is a humbling experience, as joepedo said somewhere else, expect to grow up a few hundred years in about 8 hours...

If your first acid trip is anything like mine, expect to have decades worth of thoughts and revelations racing through your head, its astounding how much your sense of time is distorted. I closed my eyes for what felt like days having countless thoughts connecting everyone and everything, and it all made sense... and then i opened my eyes to see that only 2 minutes had passed since i closed my eyes...

this is a prime of example of why i want lsd so badly.
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Old 2008-07-03, 21:45
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I have a friend who has taken over 200 hits of acid in his 20 years of life. He's not "insane", he's a functioning person, but he's pretty much emotionless and virtually anything can trigger a trip for him. But, you'll be fine, acid is one of my favourite drugs. In moderation, that is.
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Old 2008-07-03, 21:57
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I have a friend who has taken over 200 hits of acid in his 20 years of life.

I took almost that much last summer.

Of course, I wouldn't recommend it. Fall was interesting, to say the least.

Coming back to reality after permatripping for 5 months is kind of...uh...unpleasant I guess you could say.

I'm not crazy, I swear.
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Old 2008-07-04, 00:45
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That doesn't say he died of an overdose, it says the cause of death is unknown.

What they really mean is that he died of internal injuries from the police beating.

Read that again, it was 320 mgs.
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Old 2008-07-04, 01:04
Achilles Armour Achilles Armour is offline
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Obviously I'm going to be with friends when I trip. Is it better/important that at least one of my other friends is tripping on acid?
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Old 2008-07-04, 01:48
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Is it better/important that at least one of my other friends is tripping on acid?

Absolutely. All of them. Not one person sober.

You'll probably thank me for that too. ;)

Let me know how it goes.

Split what you have up as much as possible. If you can each get 4 or 5 hits it'll be awesome. I swear.
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Old 2008-07-04, 02:38
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"hey look at your wall its turning blue"
"not right now man im busy looking at the floor theres faces coming out of it"
"oh man im tripping"
"you trippin'?"
"man im triiiiiiipinggg"

that x 12 hours is most likely what will happen lol.
oh and you will analyze your entire life, every single thing about you, positive or negative.
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Old 2008-07-04, 04:22
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i think i heard of meta doing something like 65 hits all at once and he is still normal.

arguably
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Old 2008-07-04, 04:50
Achilles Armour Achilles Armour is offline
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I think I'll do it tomorrow for fourth of july like that other guy. How many hits should I take and should I take em all at the same time?
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Old 2008-07-04, 06:01
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Read that again, it was 320 mgs.

Serves him right.

Nobody needs to take that much LSD.
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Old 2008-07-08, 20:04
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Everything's dangerous. Walking out your door is dangerous. Breathing is dangerous. Might as well up the odds, right?
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Old 2008-07-09, 01:30
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Default Re: Is acid dangerous?

I can't decide if I want to try it. I tried shrooms and loved em but they're rare around here. I hear you can go crazy on acid. How does that work? Is it like every so many people someone will try it once and then end up one of those insane homeless people talking to themselves all the time?

Or is it like you can take it over and over again and then by chance lose your mind on a trip? What makes you go crazy? Is it bad acid or a bad reaction to acid?Not unless you shoot a substantial amount up, or you have very little mental fortitude.
 
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