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Old 2008-07-01, 16:52
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im black and i dont care for any kind of white person. you have poor rednecks who are usually very honest about disliking black people if asked, and then you have rich liberals who say they like black people but really have this "aww you po lil ol nigger boy, you cant do nothing on yo own". and usually when confronted by this they are alot more hateful with their racism (on the internet) than the people who dont try to hide the way they feel. if you read about alot of klan leaders, or white people who have devoted their lives to hating black people, usually you'll find they were democrats when they were younger.

proof:
in california and texas (i think, but 2 states i saw on the news) whites are a minority. in atlanta and other places the same thing is true, but those are the first two states. so now do they apply for all the benefits other minorities did in the past? they should, or liberals should just admit they didn't give them to blacks because it was fair, but because they dont view us as equal. not only that, but doing this causes the poor whites to hate blacks who would rather not have it that way (like me) even more. the majority of business is my county or small businesses are black owned, so why shouldn't affirmative action work the other way now?
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Old 2008-07-01, 17:06
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I'm white.

I don't like black people. However, I don't hate black people. As a matter of fact I don't like or hate any race of people. I tend to look at individuals and determine whether or not I like them. I am really good friends with some black people and there are others I can't fucking stand. Same goes for white, brown and yellow people.

Anyone who says "I like black people" is just full of shit. How can you like all black people? Black people are like any other group of people some you like, some you don't. Same goes for white people, I could probably go on for a year listing all the white people I would like to kill. However, when it comes to preference, color has nothing to do with it, personality and actions dictate everything.


Your post is rather naive. You classify whites into two groups, rednecks and suburbeans (that's not a word, I made it up). I'm sure there are tons of white people you either do or would get along with if you took the time to abandon your inane stereotypes.
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Old 2008-07-01, 17:21
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I'm white.

I don't like black people. However, I don't hate black people. As a matter of fact I don't like or hate any race of people. I tend to look at individuals and determine whether or not I like them. I am really good friends with some black people and there are others I can't fucking stand. Same goes for white, brown and yellow people.

Anyone who says "I like black people" is just full of shit. How can you like all black people? Black people are like any other group of people some you like, some you don't. Same goes for white people, I could probably go on for a year listing all the white people I would like to kill. However, when it comes to preference, color has nothing to do with it, personality and actions dictate everything.


Your post is rather naive. You classify whites into two groups, rednecks and suburbeans (that's not a word, I made it up). I'm sure there are tons of white people you either do or would get along with if you took the time to abandon your inane stereotypes.
i was into the black power thing at one time. but like any other black person you realize white people aren't the ones living next door, or the ones giving you problems personally, it's other blacks thats why we kill each other. killing is a normal way for a society to grow, weeding out the week. in africa tribal warfare is a part of life. if we had some problem with a low black population, they yeah we should really try to stop fighting each other, but we dont have that problem. just like whites killed each other in europe, because there was nobody else around to fight.

and im against whites being around black people. you're probably young, but it's not good for either. if we tried to blend with other cultures, we'd be in your shoes (dying). racism is alright. if it wern't race, it would be gangs, or tribes or anything else. war will exist as long as people do, so who cares if it's based on race or what color rag somebody has?

but the main thing i was asking, was for liberals to explain how that works. if they dont look at things like i described it, why not cut whites in those states all the breaks that we got now? that was my point.
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Old 2008-07-02, 14:07
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I hate that this is something that even needs to be discussed.

You can't classify people into groups based on their skin. It just doesn't work. When we do that, it causes more problems. Say you see a group of black kids beating the shit out of somebody and robbing then, then saying they are proud to be black. Our minds will automatically classify them into the group of "black people," because we are told to classify people by their skin. This puts into our heads a prejudice against all black people.

Now say you see some white yuppie yelling at the barista at starbucks because her coffee only had three shots of espresso instead of five. Because you classified those people beating the shit out of somebody as "black people," you may subconciously group this woman into the category of "white people."

Our minds are constantly analyzing and rearranging data based on our experiences and perceptions. We put things into categories that have been constructed for us by society. You can make a concious effort to not do this. Just take a second and think.... There are too many freaking people to just group everybody together based on something irrelevent like skin color.

Edit: Oh yeah. I think the "help" that white people gave to black people started as sort of an unspoken apology for the injustice of the GI Bill, but now it makes people feel better to help other people. I think everybody should be given equal chance, which doesn't mean going out of your way to help a certain group of people, but just ignoring the color of their skin all together.
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Old 2008-07-03, 00:04
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If you sneeze around a black person they will call you racist.
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Old 2008-07-03, 05:54
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I am liberal.
Aaaand I don't agree with affirmative action.

On the whole, I agree with Mr. Kitty's viewpoint. "I like x group" is such a ridiculous statement.
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Old 2008-07-03, 07:45
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Old 2008-07-05, 11:21
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Technically a person is a only a true racist if they think a certain race is inherently inferior or superior. Mistaken or ignorant impressions based on stereotypes or misinformation don't make somebody racist.
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Old 2008-07-05, 13:52
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while we're on the topic of racism, I don't like political correctness. I like to call retards what they are, retards. Maybe I won't do it in front of them, because I have a little respect for them, but I'm not going be afraid to say "he's retarded" when everyone else is beating around the bush. Another thing, when did we start assuming all black people were from Africa in America? Is there not the possibility that they're from the Carribean (originally from Africa but they have a much different culture and probably don't appreciate being called African when they're really Barbadian).
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Old 2008-07-07, 20:55
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I won't lie, when I meet someone of another race, I immediately judge/ponder things about their race. Part of what doesn't help this is having read good things and bad things about various races. I immediately identify them as being different to me.

However, I try to work past this judge and take the person for who they are. If they're an ass, I have nothing to do wth them, if they are cool, I will make an effort. For this reason I have Arab friends, black friends, Chinese friends etc.

Fuck, I'm Irish you don't think I get judged for being different to say, an English person?
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Old 2008-07-07, 20:59
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I don't blame you for hating on the white race, "my nig". Now go bust your gat in the mean streets of ATL son.
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Old 2008-07-08, 13:57
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For the last fucking time....... Black's are not disliked because they are black; that is just a grossly oversimplified thought process, akin to saying "The German's hated Jews because they were different". Being black is just a means of positively identifying a person to a group, in this case, being of African decent. From there, you can make a logical conclusion, based on statistics, of that person, viewing that person as part of a whole.
Also, while we are on the topic, I fail to see why the act of generalizing someone is such a grievous crime. First of all, it is you're brains natural response to protect itself. Secondly, if you are against the act of generalizing, you are against statistical probabilities, and likely hoods. The term generalize is not even intended to be a perfect rule, with no exceptions, it goes against the very nature of the the word. It is IN GENERAL.
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Old 2008-07-10, 23:47
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Default Re: liberal racism

Its hard to say that racism is good in any way but I think that in more liberal states ie. california, it has become taboo to dislike black people. If a black person beats the shit out of me (A Whitey) and I call him offensive names I would be labeled as a racist(within certain social circles). This reverse racism is almost as bad as the racism that spawned it.
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Old 2008-07-14, 01:11
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To the OP, it goes without saying you are American, yes?
It just further affirms my point of Amerikan blacks; so much effort is placed on racial equality, while so many of the blacks they try to help despise whites the same as many whites despise them.
All of your breed, for lack a better word, need to get over yourselves; it is truly disgusting to see how many of you want to accuse whites of being 'racist' just to get a handout. For the love of God, have you no dignity? I do agree with you on one point however: people need to understand their place in society, blacks no more belong with whites than whites with blacks.


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Old 2008-07-14, 02:39
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Originally Posted by ATLgatbuster
im black and i dont care for any kind of white person. you have poor rednecks who are usually very honest about disliking black people if asked, and then you have rich liberals who say they like black people but really have this "aww you po lil ol nigger boy, you cant do nothing on yo own". and usually when confronted by this they are alot more hateful with their racism (on the internet) than the people who dont try to hide the way they feel. if you read about alot of klan leaders, or white people who have devoted their lives to hating black people, usually you'll find they were democrats when they were younger.

proof:
in california and texas (i think, but 2 states i saw on the news) whites are a minority. in atlanta and other places the same thing is true, but those are the first two states. so now do they apply for all the benefits other minorities did in the past? they should, or liberals should just admit they didn't give them to blacks because it was fair, but because they dont view us as equal. not only that, but doing this causes the poor whites to hate blacks who would rather not have it that way (like me) even more. the majority of business is my county or small businesses are black owned, so why shouldn't affirmative action work the other way now?


I like this nigger already. You don't ascribe to the usual bullshit that we are force fed all the time.

I don't hate any race, I judge everyone by their own merits, however I would be lying if I said I wasn't prejudiced. IMO it is stupid not to be. Only a moron would see a group of black male teenagers/20 something coming towards you not think about what you should do if they accost you or looking for a way to avoid them. Stats don't lie. They don't tell you the reason why blacks have a higher crime rate, it is just a fact. Ignore information like that at your own peril.

Its hard to say that racism is good in any way but I think that in more liberal states ie. california, it has become taboo to dislike black people. If a black person beats the shit out of me (A Whitey) and I call him offensive names I would be labeled as a racist(within certain social circles). This reverse racism is almost as bad as the racism that spawned it.

Actually it is worse, because once you are the victim of something like that, if you dish it back out it is proof you are just as bad, and have learned nothing.
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Old 2008-07-14, 05:24
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Originally Posted by InFest
For the last fucking time....... Black's are not disliked because they are black; that is just a grossly oversimplified thought process, akin to saying "The German's hated Jews because they were different". Being black is just a means of positively identifying a person to a group, in this case, being of African decent. From there, you can make a logical conclusion, based on statistics, of that person, viewing that person as part of a whole.
Also, while we are on the topic, I fail to see why the act of generalizing someone is such a grievous crime. First of all, it is you're brains natural response to protect itself. Secondly, if you are against the act of generalizing, you are against statistical probabilities, and likely hoods. The term generalize is not even intended to be a perfect rule, with no exceptions, it goes against the very nature of the the word. It is IN GENERAL.



The problem with generalizing is that it is not as accurate as we would think. Ever heard of in-group heterogeneity and out-group homogeneity? As members of a group such as a 'race', we see a lot of our group in a lot of different contexts. We know how different people of our own group can be.

However, we usually see members of an out-group in limited contexts, which gives us the impression that they all tend to act the same, and can lead to making false generalizations.

There are plenty of dangerous white neighborhoods/individuals, as there are with any virtualy all ethnicities. Race is only an idea, not a biological reality. Skin tone simply relates to the latitude of their ethnic/biological heritage, with areas receiving the most sun (the equator) have the darkest inhabitants, and areas with little sun having the palest inhabitants. White skin is simply white so it can absorb more sunlight to produce vitamin D, as white people tend to come from temperate / cold climates in Eurasia, and dark skin is dark to block out most of the sunlight because vitamin D can be toxic at high levels where one is recieving a lot of sun light.

So Race means nothing
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Old 2008-07-17, 00:54
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Surely you don't think the only difference between Africans and Europeans is their skin tone?
You're idea that tends cannot be established based on race (or skin tone, lol) is complete garbage. One only needs to look at the statistics in order to ascertain that saying "There are plenty of dangerous white neighborhoods/individuals" is faulty logic.

On a completely unrelated note, where bouts in Maine are you from?
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Old 2008-07-17, 15:09
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Originally Posted by InFest
Surely you don't think the only difference between Africans and Europeans is their skin tone?
You're idea that tends cannot be established based on race (or skin tone, lol) is complete garbage. One only needs to look at the statistics in order to ascertain that saying "There are plenty of dangerous white neighborhoods/individuals" is faulty logic.

On a completely unrelated note, where bouts in Maine are you from?


Regarding genetics, two individuals of different races are more genetically alike than two individuals from the same race. Therefore, race is not a valid method of categorization based on genetics. Race is a social construct, an idea that we make up to group people together based on superficial traits.

To explain the disparity in crime and violence between whites, blacks, poor, rich, rural, urban, etc, maybe it is more about the social, political, and economic environment that shapes these people into who they are. I wouldn't be so quick to think it is the individuals themselves that create that environment. The opportunities and circumstances a lot of people may have can be largely influenced through the prejudice or racism directed at them from members outside their group.

Edit: I'm in central, soon to be southern Maine full time.
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Old 2008-07-21, 20:20
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Regarding genetics, two individuals of different races are more genetically alike than two individuals from the same race. Therefore, race is not a valid method of categorization based on genetics. Race is a social construct, an idea that we make up to group people together based on superficial traits.

WTF? Source?


Secondly, why blacks are the way they are, has nothing to do with the fact that they have a a higher crime rate. The statistics speak for themselves.
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Old 2008-07-24, 02:53
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Secondly, why blacks are the way they are, has nothing to do with the fact that they have a a higher crime rate. The statistics speak for themselves.

Does your tiny mind fail to grasp that the fact that more blacks commit crimes and are incarcerated has nothing to do with them being black, but being poor? If the africans came on ships, enslaved us, and took us back to africa where we wouldn't gain social equality until 30 years ago, don't you think that might have an effect on our race?
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Old 2008-07-27, 22:10
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im black and i dont care for any kind of white person..

You dislike ALL white people, b/c ALL white people dislike ALL black people?

Even the ones who say they dont give shit if someone is black.....secretly hate you for your skin color?

What a dumb shit thing to post.

... then you have rich liberals who say they like black people but really have this "aww you po lil ol nigger boy, you cant do nothing on yo own".

This seems to be your inferiority complex.

Seems you cant think logically on your own. I don't attribute this to your skin color, but your limited intelligence.

if you read about alot of klan leaders, or white people who have devoted their lives to hating black people, usually you'll find they were democrats when they were younger.

Oh noes, whats this mean. That when they were younger they were dems and when they got older and became KKK they stopped being democrats?

Again, you seem to be pretty fucking stupid.
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