I have moderately bad HPPD. Klonopin greatly helps this. Do you think that if I did shrooms but took a lot of klonopin then it would prevent my HPPD from getting worse?

they say you shouldn't do shrooms(or probably any hallucinogens) if you have mental problems. there was a guy at my school who jumped off the top story of a dorm tower when he was trippin because he thought he could fly, cracked his fucking skull on the concrete. later found out he had some mental issues. so what you really need to ask yourself is, do you want to crack your head open on some concrete and die? do yah?

It would certainly level out the trip at hand a little bit but it's not going to help you for any longer than it's pharmacokinetic duration, which, as far as therapeutic effects are concerned, isn't more than a few hours. Even taking into account half-life of the clonazepam, you've only got about 50 hours, tops, and likely less than that.

I'm not extremely well-versed about HPPD but from what little I do know of it I'm very much inclined to believe than any exposure to hallucinogens is probably a very inadvisable thing to do. Sure, you might not come out of it worse for the wear, but if you do, you're going to be kicking yourself in the ass for coming to believe that a few hours tripping was worth the risk of permanent augmentation to a preexisting psychological condition such as yours.

Take it from someone who tripped way too much last summer, HPPD can be pretty intense at times. I found that if I got really stoned it would come on strong.

There's no point in taking a lot of shrooms if you plan on taking a lot of any benzodiazepines, most of them can dampen the trip a lot. I usually have a couple around for when I get people to trip for their first time. It's way too intense for some because of how fucking awesome acid is. Even if the trip is too hard, you generally come away with a lot learned.

they say you shouldn't do shrooms(or probably any hallucinogens) if you have mental problems.

What kind of mental problems? There's a wide variety of them that are all so different than other ones. Some are pretty serious issues whereas a lot of other ones would have much more of a tendency to have a bad trip. A lot of them are minor things that aren't really going to get in the way.


there was a guy at my school who jumped off the top story of a dorm tower when he was trippin because he thought he could fly, cracked his fucking skull on the concrete. later found out he had some mental issues.

Again, what kind of mental issues?

A little while afterwards It's probably something you'd look back on and laugh on.

so what you really need to ask yourself is, do you want to crack your head open on some concrete and die? do yah?

Yes.

lol. well i didn't do any research. this is just off the top of my head. maybe you should get on that.

How would I know what someone I've never seen or met has going on upstairs?

Take it from someone who tripped way too much last summer, HPPD can be pretty intense at times. I found that if I got really stoned it would come on strong.

No joke man. I smoked one bowl and I was tripping like no other. I was watching multicolored sparks fly around the inside of the sink (i was at work, i used to be a dishwasher at a pizza place, laugh if you want assholes)
I turned around and I seriously sat there watching rainbow-colored Space Invaders aliens come at me at a weird angle (like the words at the beginning of star wars)

HPPD can be gnarly as fuck.

and FYI, i have done cid 2x and shrooms 1x and my hppd is no worse for it. I've only had 1 flashback (shrooms) and that's when i shot up fent... but thats neither here nor there.


My HPPD has been improving while on the klonopin. will doing shrooms (or psychs in general) not make it worse if i take enough klonopin, say like 3-6 mg?

No joke man. I smoked one bowl and I was tripping like no other. I was watching multicolored sparks fly around the inside of the sink (i was at work, i used to be a dishwasher at a pizza place, laugh if you want assholes)
I turned around and I seriously sat there watching rainbow-colored Space Invaders aliens come at me at a weird angle (like the words at the beginning of star wars)

HPPD can be gnarly as fuck.

and FYI, i have done cid 2x and shrooms 1x and my hppd is no worse for it. I've only had 1 flashback (shrooms) and that's when i shot up fent... but thats neither here nor there.


My HPPD has been improving while on the klonopin. will doing shrooms (or psychs in general) not make it worse if i take enough klonopin, say like 3-6 mg?

umm? what? i've done shrooms WAY more than that, and acid WAY more than that, and i've never experienced anything like that...I mean sure, ive had my episodes of weird shit, like just last week, playing a gig in this bar, i was in the bathroom pissing and like, its hard to explain but basically i kinda zoned out and started kinda tripping or something, whatever

anyways...i just don't really see you as a credible source to tell about HPPD, seeing as how little you have tripped...unless for some reason you "got it" really fast or something? i've done shrooms 20+times and acid at least 10+ times....so idk...

hypothetically of course

I completely agree with the above statement.

I think you're just crazy. HPPD shouldn't be that strong if you've only tripped 3 times.

Mine wasn't anywhere near colored sparks and fucking space invaders. Just minor distortions in things and sometimes a difficulty to focus. Nothing like full blown hallucinations.

I did over 100 hits of acid last summer (spread from late February until the end of August). Ketamine more than 10 times, MDMA more times than I can count, dmt a few times, and a handful of different research chemicals.

And mine STILL wasn't that bad.

Get your head checked out ;)

umm? what? i've done shrooms WAY more than that, and acid WAY more than that, and i've never experienced anything like that...I mean sure, ive had my episodes of weird shit, like just last week, playing a gig in this bar, i was in the bathroom pissing and like, its hard to explain but basically i kinda zoned out and started kinda tripping or something, whatever

anyways...i just don't really see you as a credible source to tell about HPPD, seeing as how little you have tripped...unless for some reason you "got it" really fast or something? i've done shrooms 20+times and acid at least 10+ times....so idk...

hypothetically of course
I completely agree with the above statement.

I think you're just crazy. HPPD shouldn't be that strong if you've only tripped 3 times.

Mine wasn't anywhere near colored sparks and fucking space invaders. Just minor distortions in things and sometimes a difficulty to focus. Nothing like full blown hallucinations.

I did over 100 hits of acid last summer (spread from late February until the end of August). Ketamine more than 10 times, MDMA more times than I can count, dmt a few times, and a handful of different research chemicals.

And mine STILL wasn't that bad.

Get your head checked out ;)

Sorry I wasn't clear about that... I didn't get HPPD from psychedelics in the first place.

I got HPPD from deliriant use :( I used diphen maybe fifteen or twenty times...
(yes I know I'm a fucking dumbass . oh well.)


and BTW I am probably schizophrenic. but I don't want to go on antipsychotics, klonopin (yes i know its a benzo not antipsychotic) is already is a drain on my life and I don't want to start taking zyprexa or risperidal or some shit. I used to have hardcore fucking HPPD visuals and also a weird thought process (like being on psychedelics ALL the time) but klonopin helps both of these issues. However I still hear voices and have really bad depression issues... (no this is not a pity party) The point is, yes I am probably schizophrenic but I don't want the diagnosis, they will put me on antipsychotics that are going to ruin my physical health (one of the few things i've kept together very well) and plus I want to go into politics and i can't do that if i have the diagnosis of schizopphrenia, I mean who would vote for a fucking crazy ass President thats schizo. But i'm rambling here, sorry...

god you're such a faggot. i clicked on this thread and i thought to my self this better not be this faggot rambling on and on about his HPPD. JUST MAN THE FUCK UP AND DEAL WITH IT. MAKING A HUNDRED THREADS ABOUT IT ON TOTSE ISN'T GOING TO MAKE IT ANY BETTER, BUT IT SURE AS HELL IS GOING TO PISS ME OFF! FUCK!

Yeah, I kind of get that same sort of thing, Tetris, and I've only done hallucinogens several times. But if I smoke some weed it doesn't really bring out the visuals like you say, but I definitely get some flashbacks to previous trips, mentally rather than visually which can be frightening when unexpected. I also have some of these crazy thoughts, like you say, when I'm sober. This can really can be terrifying because it's almost like I'm becoming psychotic, which I obviously experience from time to time when my mind is altered, but now it's actually transcending into my sober world. I'd advise you stay away from hallucinogenic drugs if you really think you've got schizophrenia, and I'm trying to do the same because I think they may be bringing out psychosis in me.

Or it could just be me experiencing what others have experienced before, and my problems will simply pass after time; My problem is that I definitely have some sort of anxiety disorder and I'm not sure if the anxiety is making me too worried about becoming insane or if these symptoms are definitely real and a potential problem. I could go more in depth...