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 #1 
Old 2008-07-01, 08:38
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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Default Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

I recently was making a music video for my band (rap/numetal/thrashcore) and we had a scene in it where someone is supposed to be injecting heroin. One of my bandmates decided to just inject water to make it seem realistic, and he said this is how it was done in movies, etc. Well he used bottled water thinking it would be the safest, injected about 8mL of that. Now his arm is getting more and more swollen by the minute, its very red and he says its also really soar. Earlier there was some kind of puss or other fluid coming out of the wound (it was a pretty big hole and didnt close up). Is this normal or treatable at home, or do we have to go to a dr?
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Old 2008-07-01, 08:58
Inti Inti is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

Wow, what a dumbass.

Get to a fucking doctor!

Bottled water is often less pure than tap water, because the agencies that regulate bottled water do shit-all, while the tap water is being monitored constantly.

Use distilled water, boiled, next time.
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Old 2008-07-01, 09:23
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

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Wow, what a dumbass.

Get to a fucking doctor!

Bottled water is often less pure than tap water, because the agencies that regulate bottled water do shit-all, while the tap water is being monitored constantly.

Use distilled water, boiled, next time.


Yeah thats what I said but he doesn't seem too worryed about it all he thinks it will all just cleer up. And anyways, you need to be like 18 to get medical attention, and we dont want to tell our parents about this...
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Old 2008-07-01, 09:26
silverballs silverballs is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

If it hasn't cleared up in half an hour you should probably call an ambulance.
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Old 2008-07-01, 09:50
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Use saline next time
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Old 2008-07-01, 09:51
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

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Originally Posted by silverballs
If it hasn't cleared up in half an hour you should probably call an ambulance.


this happened about 6 hours ago...
i havent seen him since but now i guess hes turning a bit pale but not too bad.
hes fine right?
he said he just feels tired and sore, apperantly though hes acting a bit loony...
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Old 2008-07-01, 09:52
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Earlier there was some kind of puss or other fluid coming out of the wound (it was a pretty big hole and didnt close up). Is this normal or treatable at home, or do we have to go to a dr?
He has an abscess, go to a fucking doctor. Oh, and fuck you dumbarse.
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Old 2008-07-01, 09:53
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Actually, I just reread what you said. 8ml of water? In one syringe? Yeah right. Troll.
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Old 2008-07-01, 09:54
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and anyways, you need to be like 18 to get medical attention, and we dont want to tell our parents about this...

Don't you guys have patient confidentiality in America? Confused

Man I could go to the doctors with the most fucked up of diseases with only a week to live and the Doctor couldn't tell any of my family members or they will be sacked as a Doctor.
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Old 2008-07-01, 10:00
happyonehitter happyonehitter is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

His arm is getting more and more swollen by the minute, its very red and he says its also really sore. Earlier there was some kind of pus or other fluid coming out of the wound (it was a pretty big hole and didnt close up).

He doesn't seem too worried about it all he thinks it will all just clear up.

And he's basing this on what? The 6 years he spent at medical school? Get him to a doctor, and once he's given the all-clear, kick him in the crotch for being such a fucking moron in the first place.
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Old 2008-07-01, 10:00
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Holy fuck thats was REALLY stupid.
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Old 2008-07-01, 10:00
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Don't you guys have patient confidentiality in America? Confused

Yes, tis a wonderful thing.
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Old 2008-07-01, 10:04
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

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Actually, I just reread what you said. 8ml of water? In one syringe? Yeah right. Troll.


Like I said, it was a pretty big syringe/needle. He said it came from his sisters horse or something, but it was still in the sterile packaging. I mean it wasnt TO big but yeah you get the idea.

And he says that he took like 3 tylenol pms so hes passing out and will suck it up till morning.
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Old 2008-07-01, 10:05
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Fucking emos.
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Old 2008-07-01, 10:20
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Like I said, it was a pretty big syringe/needle. He said it came from his sisters horse or something, but it was still in the sterile packaging. I mean it wasnt TO big but yeah you get the idea.

And he says that he took like 3 tylenol pms so hes passing out and will suck it up till morning.
8ml is 800 units dude. That's the equivalent of 16 50 unit syringes(the kind that you'll typically see). Either he is one of the leading contenders for being the biggest fucking moron that I have ever heard of, and he very well could be seeing as he plays in a "thrashcore" band, or you're a troll. I'm not sure which is preferable.
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Old 2008-07-01, 10:25
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

Should have just used heroin instead and you wouldn't be in this situation
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Old 2008-07-01, 10:28
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

whatever well i might just not remember right and read something wrong perhaps its cc or something like that or "units" like you said.
ill keep you guys posted and let you know how it turns out.
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Old 2008-07-01, 11:05
Arrow2brain Arrow2brain is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

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Should have just used heroin instead and you wouldn't be in this situation


This. Doesn't anyone else see the irony, or are they too busy thinking about darwin awards?
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Old 2008-07-01, 11:11
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Should have just used heroin instead and you wouldn't be in this situation


Haha, very true.
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Old 2008-07-01, 11:49
the half unlit the half unlit is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

Exactly what they do in the movies.......

(friend dies)
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Old 2008-07-01, 14:25
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rap/numetal/thrashcore

this statement is inherently self-contradicting. Clearly a troll post.
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Old 2008-07-01, 14:30
Savin_Jesus Savin_Jesus is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

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Should have just used heroin instead and you wouldn't be in this situation


QFT, seriously. He probably put it in to the muscle, and missed the vein completely.

Where did you get the needle?
and ummm is the discharge white?

If it isn't white, or it is just bloody he should be fine, 8cc's would make a nice lump if you hit muscle.

Ps. your friend is a dumbass.
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Old 2008-07-01, 14:52
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...too busy thinking about darwin awards?

Guilty as charged. :)

And anyways, OP, if you're depicting someone shooting dope, you shouldn't be using a fucking horse-harpoon in the first place, unless it was for comedy purposes or something. As long as you're in a state where syringes are non-prescription, you could've walked into Walgreens, asked for insulin syringes for your diabetes, paid for a 10-strip and been on your way.

Not sure if you have to be 18 but either way I've got syringes at Walgreens a few times and never got carded. Only got hassled about it once and still wound up getting them.
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Old 2008-07-01, 15:17
janEoblivious janEoblivious is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

first of all. a scene with people shooting drugs, of ODing or something is a horrible idea, it's so overdone and cliched. besides, if none of you guiuys actually shoot up, why the hell would you create a platform of art that represent that?

second, it's not the water that was dirty of something. i've seen people used toilet water and be fine..I'll bet what youre friend did was just jab the horse needle into his arm, thinking he "hit a vein", while not pulling back the plunger to be sure, and just shot mad water into his arm, and not vein

while this is painful, it'll go away eventually. tell your buddy to put ome heat compress on it to help the water get absorded faster
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Old 2008-07-01, 15:21
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

Tell your buddy to eat a fuck load of salt so it lowers [increases?] the water potential, so the water he injected is osmosised into blood plasma etc.
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Old 2008-07-01, 17:05
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

Ha post the video I got to see this shit
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Old 2008-07-01, 17:21
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Ha post the video I got to see this shit


^ what he said ^
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Old 2008-07-01, 17:57
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I think this was all a trap to get us to request your shitty video.

I for one am not going to fall for this.
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Old 2008-07-01, 18:46
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

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Originally Posted by janEoblivious
first of all. a scene with people shooting drugs, of ODing or something is a horrible idea, it's so overdone and cliched. besides, if none of you guiuys actually shoot up, why the hell would you create a platform of art that represent that?

second, it's not the water that was dirty of something. i've seen people used toilet water and be fine..I'll bet what youre friend did was just jab the horse needle into his arm, thinking he "hit a vein", while not pulling back the plunger to be sure, and just shot mad water into his arm, and not vein

while this is painful, it'll go away eventually. tell your buddy to put ome heat compress on it to help the water get absorded faster


^^^^^^^^^^^^^

smart man. listen to this post, OP.
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Old 2008-07-01, 18:55
VerticalSmile VerticalSmile is offline
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are you all serious? its a troll.
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Old 2008-07-01, 19:29
Savin_Jesus Savin_Jesus is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

Oh, tell me it looked like

This (http://www.aztecstables.com/deacon/images/36.JPG)


or
THIS (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_reWc7tK5z7A/RynoyoZAODI/AAAAAAAAAIA/H5lVAR01BaM/BananaBBTDWallpaperPastingSyringe.JPG)
This is a horse needle, it is a 16 Gauge.


HAhaha, This is the size needle they use on horses, why because they have big veins..

If what you are saying is true, not only did he miss the vein, but he hit the muscle, he probably didn't warm it up, and he might have an airbubble in his vein/muscle.

Tell him he needs to go to a hospital NOW!
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Old 2008-07-01, 21:24
Heck_Tate Heck_Tate is offline
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i think you should continue to wait this one out until your buddy dies since thrashcore band ppls deserve this kind of shit anyway
Natural Selection wins again
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Old 2008-07-01, 22:57
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

To whoever posted the pictures, it was like the first one, but had some markings on it.
He ended up waking up in the middle of the night in a lot of pain and had to go to the hospital, I guess he's going to be okay now he just did something to his muscle, we aren't sure he isn't allowed to talk to us anymore because his parents think we're bad influences.
And we wont be finishing the video, but here is a video from another group who shares a member with us, theyre mostly rap but we influence each other a lot. This is just to get an idea of ONE of the many genres my group transcends. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gd4gmg9obcU
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Old 2008-07-01, 23:02
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

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Originally Posted by DoctorMayhem
To whoever posted the pictures, it was like the first one, but had some markings on it.
He ended up waking up in the middle of the night in a lot of pain and had to go to the hospital, I guess he's going to be okay now he just did something to his muscle, we aren't sure he isn't allowed to talk to us anymore because his parents think we're bad influences.
And we wont be finishing the video, but here is a video from another group who shares a member with us, theyre mostly rap but we influence each other a lot. This is just to get an idea of ONE of the many genres my group transcends. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gd4gmg9obcU


what the fuck was that


they would look real tough as they run away when i pull the burner out
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Old 2008-07-01, 23:15
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Default Re: Injecting water, dangerous? URGENT

what the fuck was that


they would look real tough as they run away when i pull the burner out

shut the fuck up you know saintdawg or MikyX would fuck you up any day why dont you come out to the left coast and see how we do ill kick your fuckin ass hit me up when your in SoCal 8184L THE VALLEY!
 
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