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Old 2008-07-01, 04:35
Defekt Defekt is offline
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Do you need to take a MAOI before insulfating dmt, as you would if you injested it orally? Wikipedia says you do, nothing else I can find agrees.
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Old 2008-07-01, 04:37
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No you don't. MAOIs will potentiate it, but it is only really necessary if you want to take it orally.
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Old 2008-07-01, 15:51
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Well, snorting it will eventually get into your stomach anyway. Plus I think the MAOI is necessary because of the metabolism of oral and nasal administration. I'm pretty sure it's necessary to do an MAOI for anything other than smoking it. The best way to do that is smoking it in a bong. It tastes nasty though. Plus snorting it probably hurts like hell.
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Old 2008-07-01, 17:43
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just snorted 300~mg, you definantly do NOT need a maoi
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Old 2008-07-01, 17:57
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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just smoke it... the bioavalibility and metabolism rate of dmt by insufulation sucks balls...
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Old 2008-07-01, 18:25
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Originally Posted by jamaica0535
just smoke it... the bioavalibility and metabolism rate of dmt by insufulation sucks balls...


especially when you consider how fuckin expensive DMT is
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Old 2008-07-01, 20:45
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just snorted 300~mg, you definantly do NOT need a maoi


Who the fuck wants to use 6 smoked doses to get 1 insuffulated dose?
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Old 2008-07-02, 01:56
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I'm sure people have good reasons, my dmt was basically free I have a bunch left over too.
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Old 2008-07-02, 02:06
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I'm sure people have good reasons, my dmt was basically free I have a bunch left over too.


I suppose, but look how many more trips you could get out of the same amount of stuff!
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Old 2008-07-03, 00:17
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Does insulfating it give as strong an experience as smoking it? I'm suspicious.
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Old 2008-07-03, 05:21
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Does insulfating it give as strong an experience as smoking it? I'm suspicious.


According to a government website, on a page about crack:

Injecting and insufflating are inefficient routes of administration when compared to smoking, the characteristics of which are described below.
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Old 2008-07-03, 05:23
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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Does insulfating it give as strong an experience as smoking it? I'm suspicious.


nothing touches smoking. If you can inhale a full dose it will even hit you faster than IV. the reason one would choose any other method, is because DMT vapor can be harsh for one thing, and also the momentum of the trip can be extremely terrifying. to some people this route is a hit and miss for a breakthrough experience due to the inherent difficulty of vap'ing DMT "just the right way". Other routes will have a significantly lower margin of error and will bring you up smoothely, have longer effects, and ultimately gives your mind more time to prepare itself and absorb the experience. but when dosed accordingly for each method, you will inevitably reach the same mindfucking state eventually.
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Old 2008-07-03, 05:24
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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According to a government website, on a page about crack:

did you just use crack as a reference for DMT? are you retarded?
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Old 2008-07-03, 06:48
36fuckin5 36fuckin5 is offline
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CE, I've got a serious question for you.

If one were to insufflate DMT, which would be the best form? I know next to nothing about chemistry, but I know that a freebase usually isn't the best form to sniff. Would it be an HCl? And how much would one need? I'm sure the weight would change.
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Old 2008-07-03, 07:17
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did you just use crack as a reference for DMT? are you retarded?

The point was that smoking was a more efficient method of administration than insuffulating. I assumed that most drugs would be the same, since I had seen it listed more generally before (ie. "for all drugs, x is best, y is next, z after that"). Since you agreed with me, I have to wonder: are you retarded?
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Old 2008-07-03, 15:34
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smoking dmt while on pcp now thats some good shit.
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Old 2008-07-03, 15:38
AlCaTrAz AlCaTrAz is offline
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You'll rush harder if you smoke it, it won't last as long as snorting but it will be more intense if you smoke.

The smoke tastes shitty but after you hit it, pretty soon you won't give a shit what that smoke tasted like.
 
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