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Old 2008-06-30, 04:46
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so i'm considering it. i've tried shrooms before, didn't like them much. too much confusion not enough visual. acid doesn't appeal to me-seems like it lasts too long. the hardest shit ive done is e/shrooms, or maybe and 8th of shrooms. has anyone here tried it? i'm sort of scared that it might completely change me as a person, is that a possibility with a relatively low dose, like just enough to break through?
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Old 2008-06-30, 05:06
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you'll likely realize what a small, insignificant speck you and every other person is in the grand scheme of things.

but don't think of that as a bad thing.
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Old 2008-06-30, 05:18
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you'll likely realize what a small, insignificant speck you and every other person is in the grand scheme of things.

but don't think of that as a bad thing.


It's definitely not a bad thing, I mean isn't it kinda the point of taking psychedelics? To be humbled before the might of the universe/god/the self, and then to realize that they are all one and the same?

Sorry if that doesn't make sense, I am beginning to trip pretty hard.
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Old 2008-06-30, 05:22
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Its best to decide for yourself that DMT is too powerful for you, because chances are you wont come across it. Ever. And that makes it so much shittier when you want it.
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Old 2008-06-30, 05:22
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It's definitely not a bad thing, I mean isn't it kinda the point of taking psychedelics? To be humbled before the might of the universe/god/the self, and then to realize that they are all one and the same?

DMT just hits a bit harder and faster than psychs like LSD...

and OP really consider LSD, who the fuck cares about an 8 hour trip, when your on most psychs the concept of time is generally thrown out the window... My first acid trip was one of the most euphoric and probably the only thing i could think of that ever drastically changed the way i see the world..

i would love to try DMT, one of these days i might come around to finding some, but it will happen when it happens i guess....
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Old 2008-06-30, 05:26
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you don't need dmt

whats wrong with weed and shit?
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Old 2008-06-30, 05:34
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DMT just hits a bit harder and faster than psychs like LSD...


A bit? lol.
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Old 2008-06-30, 06:43
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A bit? lol.

just a little... lol
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Old 2008-06-30, 08:01
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So, wait, you took shrooms and you didn't like them because there weren't enough visuals?

The fuck is wrong with you, son?

I call troll.
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Old 2008-06-30, 08:21
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So, wait, you took shrooms and you didn't like them because there weren't enough visuals?

The fuck is wrong with you, son?

I call troll.


I've eaten eighths of shrooms that didn't give me amazing kaleidiscope rainbows. Its all a matter of potency and strain..
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Old 2008-06-30, 10:50
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I've eaten eighths of shrooms that didn't give me amazing kaleidiscope rainbows. Its all a matter of potency and strain..

That's what I mean, although I guess my previous comment was a little obscure....

I was calling troll because shrooms aren't supposed to be about the visuals, and the 'confusion' that he claimed not to like is supposed to be the experience itself. I'm pretty sure it was SN that claimed no psychedelic will ever give you full-blown hallucinations, and I'm sure LSD and DMT can't be much different than shrooms (well, at least in that respect).

Psychedelics aren't the sort of drugs you take for a party or just as some purely 'fun' or 'social' thing. I mean, drugs are supposed to be fun, but psychs are an entirely different territory when it comes to that.
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Old 2008-06-30, 14:43
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So, wait, you took shrooms and you didn't like them because there weren't enough visuals?

The fuck is wrong with you, son?

I call troll.


ugh... no

you don't need dmt

whats wrong with weed and shit?

nothing, i just want to step it up from habitual to spiritual. i've done shrooms and every time i end up thinking to myself 'when the fuck is this shit going to be over?' it's like i'm bored but too high to really function. i just want to open my eyes up a little, you know? it seems like this is the only thing that'll really do it for me. it also appeals to me because it's produced in your body naturally, it isn't some foreign ass substance. plus, who the fuck has 8 hours to give to a drug??? i'm not a kid anymore... oh and to that one guy, trust me i can get my hands on it. if not i can get my hands on some of that bark and extract it, i've skimmed over the teks and they seem very straight forward
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Old 2008-06-30, 14:46
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hey you live in fremont! i'm just up the 880
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Old 2008-06-30, 15:04
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dont have 8 hours to give to a drug? you dont get saturday afternoons where you live?
seriously, shrooms ive wanted to end before, the first time i did acid, i didnt want it to end for a long time
seriously, get some blotter, my experience with good acid is the most positive of my life
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Old 2008-06-30, 18:11
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dont have 8 hours to give to a drug? you dont get saturday afternoons where you live?
seriously, shrooms ive wanted to end before, the first time i did acid, i didnt want it to end for a long time
seriously, get some blotter, my experience with good acid is the most positive of my life


i have better things to do with my saturdays than be stuck in a drug. seriously, do you have a life?
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Old 2008-06-30, 21:39
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i have better things to do with my saturdays than be stuck in a drug. seriously, do you have a life?

these people are trying to give you advice and you just act like a fucking dick.....noone post anymore in this thread this guys a tool who should'nt be doing psychedelics.
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Old 2008-06-30, 23:56
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the hardest shit ive done is e/shrooms

ohlol.
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Old 2008-07-01, 00:17
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these people are trying to give you advice and you just act like a fucking dick.....noone post anymore in this thread this guys a tool who should'nt be doing psychedelics.


dude, shut the fuck up. a fucking kid telling me to waste a day of my life on acid is not worthwhile advice.
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Old 2008-07-01, 01:02
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dude, shut the fuck up. a fucking kid telling me to waste a day of my life on acid is not worthwhile advice. So what do you want from this thread, someone to say yea go do dmt? Everyone with experience will suggest you try acid first. Stop being such an asshole
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Old 2008-07-01, 04:35
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dude, shut the fuck up. a fucking kid telling me to waste a day of my life on acid is not worthwhile advice.

dude i'm sure that person is not a fucking kid your just being an ignorant asshole... you need to learn to chill the fuck out and learn that dmt is NOT for you.... try some fucking acid, but i dont want you to because i can already tell by your posts that your not worthy of trying hallucinogens...how original, "Dude, shut the fuck up". tells me right there you should stick with your boring weed, i have'nt done acid but i can tell you this, acid sounds pretty fucking worthwile no matter how long it lasts.
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Old 2008-07-01, 06:23
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dude i'm sure that person is not a fucking kid your just being an ignorant asshole... you need to learn to chill the fuck out and learn that dmt is NOT for you.... try some fucking acid, but i dont want you to because i can already tell by your posts that your not worthy of trying hallucinogens...how original, "Dude, shut the fuck up". tells me right there you should stick with your boring weed, i have'nt done acid but i can tell you this, acid sounds pretty fucking worthwile no matter how long it lasts.

I take it im not the only one who thinks most people dont deserve the experiance many psychedelics have to offer?
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Old 2008-07-01, 06:34
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you are in no way ready for dmt

save yourself the hellish introspective nightmare and just smoke some salvia
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Old 2008-07-01, 07:32
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Its best to decide for yourself that DMT is too powerful for you, because chances are you wont come across it. Ever. And that makes it so much shittier when you want it.


If the guy needs dmt I'll happily sell him 15mg for 15$, if he was trusting enough to send me the money first.
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Old 2008-07-01, 11:09
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I take it im not the only one who thinks most people dont deserve the experiance many psychedelics have to offer?

I sure as hell don't. But whos gonna stop me?
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Old 2008-07-01, 13:12
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man, you guys are some princesses...who apparently can't read too well
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Old 2008-07-01, 14:28
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you dont get saturday afternoons where you live?

this is probly the funniest thing I have ever read on totse :)
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Old 2008-07-01, 14:29
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you are in no way ready for dmt

save yourself the hellish introspective nightmare and just smoke some salvia


because nobody ever gets hellish introspective nightmares on salvia, right? Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Old 2008-07-01, 16:00
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Its best to decide for yourself that DMT is too powerful for you, because chances are you wont come across it. Ever. And that makes it so much shittier when you want it.


You can extract it from a lot of stuff. It's really not too difficult to make your own. Google is your friend.
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Old 2008-07-01, 17:31
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I take it im not the only one who thinks most people dont deserve the experiance many psychedelics have to offer?

yeah but if alot of people in the world did shrooms, the world would definately be a more peaceful and better place.
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Old 2008-07-01, 22:09
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acid first. at the end of the day it's your choice, but I - and most here with experience - would recommend acid. It's not "wasting" a day, believe me: you will love it with the right set and setting.
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Old 2008-07-01, 22:19
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meh i don't know man. it seems kind of dirty. for one it's not naturally occurring in my body. 2, dirty ass street hippies sell the shit. though i'm sure i can get it from someone else. and 3, if it's a bad trip, i'm stuck in it all day
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Old 2008-07-01, 22:24
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meh i don't know man. it seems kind of dirty.

So, it won't be dirty if you snort it...?

for one it's not naturally occurring in my body.

That is debatable. It is neither proven or unproven.

2. dirty ass street hippies sell the shit. though i'm sure i can get it from someone else.

For one, hippies usually have the best drugs. Pretty much any psychedelic you buy from a 'hippie' will be cheaper than street price and more pure. You passed quite an assumption there.

That and they usually have amazing weed.

and 3, if it's a bad trip, i'm stuck in it all day

Smoking it only lasts about 20 minutes..

If you have little experience with psychedelics it won't be bad per say. It's just very intense.
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Old 2008-07-01, 23:00
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So, it won't be dirty if you snort it...?



That is debatable. It is neither proven or unproven.



For one, hippies usually have the best drugs. Pretty much any psychedelic you buy from a 'hippie' will be cheaper than street price and more pure. You passed quite an assumption there.

That and they usually have amazing weed.



Smoking it only lasts about 20 minutes..

If you have little experience with psychedelics it won't be bad per say. It's just very intense.

I think he was talking about acid, so let me handle him.

meh i don't know man. it seems kind of dirty.

Acid isn't "dirty." Since the dosage is so low, it fits on a very tiny (the size of a pinky-nail) blotter, making it almost impossible to put anything very bad on it in any decent size.

for one it's not naturally occurring in my body.

So what? Neither is caffeine, weed, or milk. The toxicity of lsd is lower than that of caffeine too.

3, if it's a bad trip, i'm stuck in it all day

Bad trips are in your head. If you decide to let it affect you all day, then so be it. To get out of a bad trip, I simply turn on a comedy and force myself to laugh and forget about whatever bad trip I was in. Remember, it's all inside.
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Old 2008-07-02, 01:03
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That is debatable. It is neither proven or unproven.

Care to explain? I can't see how something synthesized from ergot can possibly occur naturally in the body...

Unless you're refering to DMT. Mmm.. fried pineal.
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Old 2008-07-02, 02:09
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Care to explain? I can't see how something synthesized from ergot can possibly occur naturally in the body...

Unless you're refering to DMT. Mmm.. fried pineal.

And DMT most certainly is found in the body. The only debate is whether or not the pineal gland produces it.
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Old 2008-07-02, 03:39
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For one, hippies usually have the best drugs. Pretty much any psychedelic you buy from a 'hippie' will be cheaper than street price and more pure. You passed quite an assumption there.

That and they usually have amazing weed.



Smoking it only lasts about 20 minutes..

If you have little experience with psychedelics it won't be bad per say. It's just very intense.

i don't know where the fuck you're from, but hippies are dirty fucks with bammer where i'm from. i get my shit from the club, it doesn't really get any better. thanks for the insight though.

i'm not saying the drug is dirty, i'm saying i don't want to put a blotter in my mouth that some nasty bum handled. in sf, thats whom i would talk to about getting it...

also i would be the one making the dmt, i'd know where it was coming from
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Old 2008-07-02, 08:55
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I live on the East Coast. There are plenty of hippies here with very high quality drugs for low prices. You just have to be apart of the culture to get the real deal.

Some of them are dirty, yes, but they're very passionate and take great care in their drugs.

Also excellent quality acid, MDMA, ketamine, n,n-dmt and a bunch of other goodies.

Some of the most amazing weed you'll ever smoke are grown by these people constantly. Hippies have a green thumb. Awesome ganja treats too.
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:21
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AnArChY!!
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Old 2008-07-02, 09:22
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Awesome ganja treats too.

Scooby snack?

Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever bought drugs from a stereotypical hippie.. Most dealers around here are clean-shaven future-CEO actin' motherfuckers. But at least they get quality drugs.
 
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