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 #1 
Old 2008-06-27, 21:31
hypno hypno is offline
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Default Salvia Noob

Ive decided to give it a shot but having never smoked it. I figure id ask you guys as you have no reason to lie except for you sick pleasure

First what strength to buy? Id rather get bulk of one so its cheaper.

Where to get it? It seems every site i see has widely varying prices so i dont know which ones to trust

So help a guy out totse.

Btw i smoke quite a bit of weed so dont suggest strengths on the safe side
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Old 2008-06-27, 21:55
fretbuzz fretbuzz is offline
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

At least 20x smoked through a bowl or bong with a torch lighter. Take at least 2 hits within a minute and hold them in for 20-30 seconds each.

tell Sally I said hi

/thread
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Old 2008-06-27, 22:06
Lumocolor Lumocolor is offline
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

You don't need a fucking torch lighter, quit spreading that shit. I've used both on different occasions and haven't noticed a difference. Just hold the lighter on the salvia for the entire toke, don't just light it and let it cherry. You don't need to take two hits, take one and hold it for 30 seconds. Get someone to count for you.

And when you say "i smoke quite a bit of weed" this gives me the impression you're another one of those idiots who doesn't comprehend what salvia does to you. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

I recommend you just go to a local hemp store and buy it there.
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Old 2008-06-27, 22:14
mr.biggles mr.biggles is offline
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

take one hit and pass the piece to someone else or put it somewhere safe before youre gone so nothing happens to it (i almost threw mine at a giant strawberry)
 #5 
Old 2008-06-27, 22:37
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

how could you guys respect the OP enough to even answer. what a retard!
 #6 
Old 2008-06-27, 22:53
Lumocolor Lumocolor is offline
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

Quote:
Originally Posted by Internet-Weed-Dude
how could you guys respect the OP enough to even answer. what a retard!

There's always the chance he'll doing it sitting on the edge of a cliff.

A remote chance, but one worth taking imo. :o
 #7 
Old 2008-06-27, 23:04
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

Quote:
Originally Posted by Internet-Weed-Dude
how could you guys respect the OP enough to even answer. what a retard!


the correct word is idiot.. hence why im asking non-idiots of the subject. Get a grip, you learned about it somehow too.
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Old 2008-06-27, 23:18
Neiromaru Neiromaru is offline
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There's always the chance he'll doing it sitting on the edge of a cliff.

pssshhh, I've done it on the edge of a cliff, sure i ended up hanging over a blue chasm on kamino in danger of swiveling into the fields, but i'm still alive...

yeah probably not my smartest moment...


But to the OP, you don't need a torch lighter, 20x should be adequate, and you'll know when you've had enough when you're nowhere near whatever you're smoking it out of.

also don't think having smoked pot or anything else will in any way prepare you for salvia.
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Old 2008-06-27, 23:25
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www.gaianbotanicals.com


this is basically the best place, with really good prices

i say buy a gram of their 6.5x and if that doesn't do it for you (which it should) buy their 15x..don't listen to these people who are saying to do20x, that will most likely get you so fucked up to the point where you won't remember anything or might black out.. best to start at lower extracts and work your way up...i quit doing salvia cuz it sucks, the highest extract i did was 15 and i can't imagine doing 20+ extracts
 #10 
Old 2008-06-27, 23:53
Lumocolor Lumocolor is offline
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www.gaianbotanicals.com (http://www.gaianbotanicals.com)


this is basically the best place, with really good prices

i say buy a gram of their 6.5x and if that doesn't do it for you (which it should) buy their 15x..don't listen to these people who are saying to do20x, that will most likely get you so fucked up to the point where you won't remember anything or might black out.. best to start at lower extracts and work your way up...i quit doing salvia cuz it sucks, the highest extract i did was 15 and i can't imagine doing 20+ extracts
You realize you can just use a higher extract and inhale less/hold it for less time...right? Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)


Makes more sense to me than buying a low extract and having to order more later.
 #11 
Old 2008-06-28, 00:33
fretbuzz fretbuzz is offline
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

You don't need a fucking torch lighter, quit spreading that shit. I've used both on different occasions and haven't noticed a difference.

Right, I've used them both as well and I seem to get better effects with the torch lighter. A regular lighter will burn hot enough at over 800 degrees F but the higher the temp, the less chance of any vaporized salvinorin a condensing (mostly inside your bowl) before it reaches your lungs. More heat is more efficient at delivering the active ingredient to your lungs.
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Old 2008-06-28, 01:52
hypno hypno is offline
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www.gaianbotanicals.com


this is basically the best place

Is this site for real? Its soooo
much cheaper
 #13 
Old 2008-06-28, 02:05
mr.biggles mr.biggles is offline
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im pretty sure its legit but i havent used it so id try asking about it more
 #14 
Old 2008-06-28, 03:16
ZEbbEDY ZEbbEDY is offline
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

anyone tried the flavoured stuff, does it tase fowl?

they have blackberry, cherry, or blueberry all 40x
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Old 2008-06-28, 13:30
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weed smokers can presumably hold more in longer
 #16 
Old 2008-06-28, 16:31
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Is this site for real? Its soooo
much cheaper

yeah this site is legit.. i've done mail orders to them and it came back pretty fast, he also gives out samples of your choice if you say your a member of Edot... just go to www.entheogen.com and go to their vendor forums, you can find lots of really legit vendors that aren't a big ripoff and that have better products than IAS and other big vendors. personally my favorites are gaian and www.nomad.ecrater.com


You realize you can just use a higher extract and inhale less/hold it for less time...right? Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)


Makes more sense to me than buying a low extract and having to order more later.

yeah but it's alot easier to eye it out with lower extracts...with higher extracts the amount would be so minute it would be kinda hard to smoke cuz it would burn up right away. salvias definately not something to just fuck with man, people should'nt just start smoking "super duper green omega 50x" their first time, you need to start low like 5x and work your way up
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Old 2008-06-28, 18:14
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

ordered, here it is
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/trenthh2/salvia.jpg


Im going to start with the lowest and work my way up. The 50x is hilariously strong and will obviously be under strict moderation.
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Old 2008-06-28, 19:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hypno
ordered, here it is
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/trenthh2/salvia.jpg


Im going to start with the lowest and work my way up. The 50x is hilariously strong and will obviously be under strict moderation.


wow you actually bought all that shit, glad i could help you but have you even done salvia before? 6.5x might even scare you away from trying higher extracts. haha good luck with the 50x you'll probably remember nothing....did you say ask for a sample? i doubt you'll be able to smoke that much salvia, you'll probably get so tired of the annoying feeling it gives
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Old 2008-06-28, 19:15
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

wow you actually bought all that shit, glad i could help you but have you even done salvia before? 6.5x might even scare you away from trying higher extracts. haha good luck with the 50x you'll probably remember nothing....did you say ask for a sample? i doubt you'll be able to smoke that much salvia, you'll probably get so tired of the annoying feeling it gives

ahh fuck not purchased yet, i put a wrong number in my cc. So you think i should scale back? Im gonna have to confirm it so i can still bail i guess.
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Old 2008-06-28, 19:21
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

www.gaianbotanicals.com (http://www.gaianbotanicals.com)


this is basically the best place, with really good prices

i say buy a gram of their 6.5x and if that doesn't do it for you (which it should) buy their 15x..don't listen to these people who are saying to do20x, that will most likely get you so fucked up to the point where you won't remember anything or might black out.. best to start at lower extracts and work your way up...i quit doing salvia cuz it sucks, the highest extract i did was 15 and i can't imagine doing 20+ extracts

I used 10x, then went right to XXX, which is the highest strength extract ( I think it is 50x) It fucked me up for 15 minutes, but it doesn't do anything for you. You don't learn anything from it, you just act retarded. Then you have to deal with trying to figure out if you're alright or not. After that, it deems itself as a waste of money.


It's worth the experience, but you don't need to go up in the high powered extracts....I haven't noticed much of a difference between strengths.
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Old 2008-06-28, 19:21
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ahh fuck not purchased yet, i put a wrong number in my cc. So you think i should scale back? Im gonna have to confirm it so i can still bail i guess.

i dont know what you mean by scaling back. but i think you mean get rid of the high extracts. so yeah just buy the 6.5x and/or the 15x....anything higher is dumb with no experience. don't bail it though, cuz thats probably one of the best salvia prices and quality you'll see online.
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Old 2008-06-28, 19:26
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You don't learn anything from it, you just act retarded.


this right here sums up the salvia experience...all you do is laugh, drool, get hot and sweaty, feel glued to the ground. it fucking sucks balls compared to other hallucinogens(sucks balls compared to most drugs imo) that actually allow you to think about things, salvia just completely obliterates the reality around you and is very hard to integrate the experience afterwards... i still don't understand why i did salvia 30 times, i didn't enjoy it after 4th time i broke through but i kept on doing it out of curiosity, i would feel a sense of doom and wtf am i doing this for before smoking it everytime
 #23 
Old 2008-06-28, 19:47
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i didn't enjoy it after 4th time i broke through but i kept on doing it out of curiosity

I'm not sure if I've 'broken through'...could you try to describe what this 'breaking through' is? I've been fucked right up on it, but I don't know if it's the same thing that you're and other people talk about.
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Old 2008-06-28, 19:55
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I'm not sure if I've 'broken through'...could you try to describe what this 'breaking through' is? I've been fucked right up on it, but I don't know if it's the same thing that you're and other people talk about.


breaking through is basically feeling the full effects... the first 5 or so times i did salvia i never really broke through and just felt mild effects, which i think was the result of my method of smoking it. so yes, you've broken through.
 #25 
Old 2008-06-28, 19:59
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breaking through is basically feeling the full effects... the first 5 or so times i did salvia i never really broke through and just felt mild effects, which i think was the result of my method of smoking it. so yes, you've broken through.

Oh, alright.

I've probably done it 15 times by now, and broken through every time but about 3.
 #26 
Old 2008-06-29, 01:49
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Oh, alright.

I've probably done it 15 times by now, and broken through every time but about 3.

I dont see how people can do salvia that many times, I've done it 4 times and can safely say that I'm done with it
 #27 
Old 2008-06-29, 03:24
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I dont see how people can do salvia that many times, I've done it 4 times and can safely say that I'm done with it

If you get a lot of people interested then you buy some. I've bought a few 10x's and sold them at $5 a bowl. I just bought XXX to get fucked up on, but I was disappointed to say the least.
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Old 2008-06-29, 09:07
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My advice is don't underestimate it
 #29 
Old 2008-06-29, 21:25
Savages_Viper Savages_Viper is offline
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i just got some 45x salivia i have smoked 20x 10x and pure leaf plenty of times but like a quarter bowl of this stuff in 1 hit and hold it and you get FUCKED up the higher the concentration the better the trip is but its nothing like weed or shrooms or anything else its in a class all its own lol
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Old 2008-06-30, 00:29
Crippled Lucifer Crippled Lucifer is offline
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Default Re: Salvia Noob

Anyone else feel really dirty when they smoke salvia? If my apartment isnt in immaculate condition and I didnt shower yet today, I feel like my life is covered in filth. Salvia makes me see every minute detail thats wrong with my life.
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Old 2008-06-30, 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crippled Lucifer
Anyone else feel really dirty when they smoke salvia? If my apartment isnt in immaculate condition and I didnt shower yet today, I feel like my life is covered in filth. Salvia makes me see every minute detail thats wrong with my life.


No, no it doesn't.
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Old 2008-06-30, 21:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crippled Lucifer
Anyone else feel really dirty when they smoke salvia? If my apartment isnt in immaculate condition and I didnt shower yet today, I feel like my life is covered in filth. Salvia makes me see every minute detail thats wrong with my life.



i dont understand ANYTHING on salvia, obviously you aren't breaking through.
 #33 
Old 2008-06-30, 21:46
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i dont understand ANYTHING on salvia, obviously you aren't breaking through.

That's why I disagreed with him.
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Old 2008-06-30, 21:48
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i dont understand ANYTHING on salvia, obviously you aren't breaking through.

Yeah, my last break though is a complete blur to me, apparently I stood off of the bed and spoke in tongues at this chicks house. I was also stoned and on a bunch of klonopin though so I don't know if that enhanced my break through.
 
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