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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2008-06-27, 21:28
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Default 5-HTP before or after rolling?

I've heard different things from different people. Some say taking it before your roll will decrease the effects, and others say that it will intensify it. Even erowid is a bit vague. I heard it was good for the comedown, but what were your experiences taking it before your roll? I'll most likely end up taking two rolls tonight, and bringing some extra 5htp for friends for the day after. Thanks!
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Old 2008-06-27, 23:10
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The purple penguins I have i heard from friends are not as potent as the red diamonds i had last time. I took 100 mg 5-HTP this morning around 9am, so I'll leave the chemicals to duke it out in my brainbox, and let you guys know how it went (if anyone's interested). I'll be leaving soon, so thoughts, experiences, opinions?
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Old 2008-06-28, 06:13
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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take it after, if it helps or even has the possibility of helping, why not!?
not sure about taking it before..

WOOO PLUR EDC IS TOMORROW ZOMGZOMGZOMGZ!!!1!1!111one!!!!!
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Old 2008-06-28, 08:45
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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before and after... before to increase the amount of serotonin in your brain to start out with, and hopefully it will help make it stronger... and then after to help replenish what you lost...
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Old 2008-06-28, 16:58
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Well, it turns out the guy with the purple penguins fell through, and we had a friend find another source, but he REALLY came through. If anyone in cook county, il finds rolls that are smaller than most, red with white specks and three circles in a triangle SNATCH EM UP! I didn't believe the guy when he said they were pure molly but it's the closest thing I've had to pure EVER.
As for the 5HTP I do think it dampened my roll a little bit but not by much. My friend who rolls more often than I do was rolling longer, but we were rolling well and hard into the morning. I wouldn't take 5htp before rolling, but save it until after. Hope you all had a great friday, I know I did.
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Old 2008-06-28, 19:46
Mr Page Stretcher Dude Mr Page Stretcher Dude is offline
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Default Re: 5-HTP before or after rolling?

It takes ~2 days to have the proper effect, so drop them regularly starting 48 hours before rolling.
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Old 2008-06-28, 21:48
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mah compound
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Well, it turns out the guy with the purple penguins fell through, and we had a friend find another source, but he REALLY came through. If anyone in cook county, il finds rolls that are smaller than most, red with white specks and three circles in a triangle SNATCH EM UP! I didn't believe the guy when he said they were pure molly but it's the closest thing I've had to pure EVER.
As for the 5HTP I do think it dampened my roll a little bit but not by much. My friend who rolls more often than I do was rolling longer, but we were rolling well and hard into the morning. I wouldn't take 5htp before rolling, but save it until after. Hope you all had a great friday, I know I did.You are a fucking moron, and when I meet people like you in real life, I laugh at them.
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Old 2008-06-28, 22:13
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You are a fucking moron, and when I meet people like you in real life, I laugh at them.

Well obviously the pill has binders to keep it together. I know quality varies from pill to pill even the same color/logo, but location can play a role. I've had more than enough rolls to know a good pill from a meth bomb or any RC. You just sound like a grumpy motherfucker, so lighten up. Assuming things about strangers isn't very becoming of you.
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Old 2008-06-28, 23:02
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mah compound
Default Re: 5-HTP before or after rolling?

Well obviously the pill has binders to keep it together. I know quality varies from pill to pill even the same color/logo, but location can play a role. I've had more than enough rolls to know a good pill from a meth bomb or any RC. You just sound like a grumpy motherfucker, so lighten up. Assuming things about strangers isn't very becoming of you.
Assuming you know a single god damn thing about the MDMA scene isn't very becoming of YOU either, but I wouldn't expect you to understand such a concept since you already think you know MDMA and pills so well.

Do you have a GC/MS in your basement? No? Then shut your fucking cock hole your ignorant cunt. You don't know anymore about pills than hoppin.
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Old 2008-06-28, 23:55
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Connecticut
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SN i gotta ask, do you have a GC/MS in your basement?Not to pry or anything I'm just kinda currious
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Old 2008-06-29, 00:01
Shans283 Shans283 is offline
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I didn't believe the guy when he said they were pure molly but it's the closest thing I've had to pure EVER.

lol45
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Old 2008-06-29, 00:05
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the "scene"? you sound like you're doing drugs just to fit in, so grow the fuck up. I've read enough to know MDE is a sleepy dreamy high, and MDA has more visuals. ive had a dxm trip, not my thing, and I've done enough to know what I had weren't opiates. Marquis reagent test showed a deep purple. I've read PIHKAL and can understand the chemistry part on college level, (taking organic chem next year, but I prepared early). Some precursors are rather rare and hard to obtain for his syntheses but there's always wiki. Don't act like a badass motherfucker because you sell test kits that anyone with even a highschool diploma (and i think that's saying quite a bit if you live in the USA) can make at home, or research on the net.

I remember one of your threads where you expressed distaste for pharmacists because you purchased some common medicine for some synthesis (explosive i think) and he thought you were going to make meth with it or something. If you look like a shady motherfucker, why would you go buy loads of generic medicine and go buy it where the guy MIGHT just know something about that kind of shit, wasn't that pretty fucking stupid? You happened upon a scared yuppie douche bag who just finished the classes to make big money and buy lots of shit they he doesn't need, I know those types.


I go to a community college(It's cheaper, but I'm keeping a 4.0 with 42 credits done, 18 more to go) until I transfer to UIC for pharmacy and i'm maxing out on classes so that i barely have time to do anything besides lurk on totse a bit. I didn't expect this post to come out so long, but I'm willing to bet others are tired of your dick waving contests, as well.
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Old 2008-07-08, 21:56
Patrick Bateman Patrick Bateman is offline
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Internet argument!
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Old 2008-07-08, 22:02
pinkandfluffy pinkandfluffy is offline
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Default Re: 5-HTP before or after rolling?

1. It would be advisable to take 5-htp regularly, i.e. once a day a week before and after your trip. 5-htp will often also just make you a generally happier person, although different people get different strengths in effects.

2. I haven't taken pills in a very long time and used to sell pure crystal MDMA. I would advise anyone who can to get it rather than pills, its a purer feeling, and its nice to know exactly how much of what you're putting in your body.
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Old 2008-07-09, 03:31
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Both .
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Old 2008-07-09, 04:52
your pixel army your pixel army is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Codems
SN i gotta ask, do you have a GC/MS in your basement?Not to pry or anything I'm just kinda currious


Of this I'm also curious---solely because I have to work with spectral analysis almost every day of the week and I want to know who has the dough for an MS.
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Old 2008-07-09, 12:07
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Originally Posted by Ekstaza
the "scene"? you sound like you're doing drugs just to fit in, so grow the fuck up. I've read enough to know MDE is a sleepy dreamy high, and MDA has more visuals. ive had a dxm trip, not my thing, and I've done enough to know what I had weren't opiates. Marquis reagent test showed a deep purple. I've read PIHKAL and can understand the chemistry part on college level, (taking organic chem next year, but I prepared early). Some precursors are rather rare and hard to obtain for his syntheses but there's always wiki. Don't act like a badass motherfucker because you sell test kits that anyone with even a highschool diploma (and i think that's saying quite a bit if you live in the USA) can make at home, or research on the net.

I remember one of your threads where you expressed distaste for pharmacists because you purchased some common medicine for some synthesis (explosive i think) and he thought you were going to make meth with it or something. If you look like a shady motherfucker, why would you go buy loads of generic medicine and go buy it where the guy MIGHT just know something about that kind of shit, wasn't that pretty fucking stupid? You happened upon a scared yuppie douche bag who just finished the classes to make big money and buy lots of shit they he doesn't need, I know those types.


I go to a community college(It's cheaper, but I'm keeping a 4.0 with 42 credits done, 18 more to go) until I transfer to UIC for pharmacy and i'm maxing out on classes so that i barely have time to do anything besides lurk on totse a bit. I didn't expect this post to come out so long, but I'm willing to bet others are tired of your dick waving contests, as well.


Haha, Stupid Noob got OWNED!
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Old 2008-07-09, 12:13
AlCaTrAz AlCaTrAz is offline
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Crook County, huh?

:)
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Old 2008-07-09, 12:25
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Default Re: 5-HTP before or after rolling?

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Originally Posted by Codems
SN i gotta ask, do you have a GC/MS in your basement?Not to pry or anything I'm just kinda currious


If not, it's 'cause he's a lazy bastard. I remember the thread...

Marquis reagent test showed a deep purple. I've read PIHKAL and can understand the chemistry part on college level...

So, how many washes did you perform across the galactopyranosamide?
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Old 2008-07-09, 15:47
janEoblivious janEoblivious is offline
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Default Re: 5-HTP before or after rolling?

it's called preloading..but u actually have to take it a few week/one week prior to up your serotinin level
and after u roll, some of my friends said it made them feel better
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Old 2008-07-09, 19:05
Shans283 Shans283 is offline
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someone referred me to this preloading guide, it's pretty good: http://tinyurl.com/28aewv
 
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