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| Oh the Humanities! Philosophy, Cultural practices, Social norms, Historical Debate, War, and Sociology. |
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# 1

2008-06-26, 03:13
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Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
Let's look into the good/bad of 'sarcasm' and 'common sense'
Some questions: Do you consider sarcasm to be a lie? Y/N or maybe? Explain why.
When people pull 'common sense' are they referring to 'street smarts'; how the common people believe things ("folk psychology" is an example) or how things "should be done"
go ahead and add more stuff.
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# 2

2008-06-26, 03:29
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Reading Pa USA
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
I generally don't see sarcasm as a lie, I try and make it obvious when I'm being sarcastic and anyone who can't pick up on it is a moron
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# 3

2008-06-26, 03:31
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Chicago IL, USA
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
wiki artlcles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
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# 4

2008-06-26, 03:34
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Chicago IL, USA
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
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Originally Posted by vazilizaitsev89
I generally don't see sarcasm as a lie, I try and make it obvious when I'm being sarcastic and anyone who can't pick up on it is a moron
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That is a good question; many have a differing view on what is 'obvious'; some would rely on eye movement, some would help to use the body posture, some might 'pick up' based on the language used and fake/bullshit accents, etc.
Thank you for the response as well, vazilizaitsev89
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# 5

2008-06-26, 09:55
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
"Common sense" is useless as a means of achieving truth. For example, common sense tells us that a pan of room temperature water will freeze more quickly than a pan of hot water when both are placed in a freezer. In fact, the opposite is true.
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# 6

2008-06-29, 08:39
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
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Originally Posted by madeyes
"Common sense" is useless as a means of achieving truth. For example, common sense tells us that a pan of room temperature water will freeze more quickly than a pan of hot water when both are placed in a freezer. In fact, the opposite is true.
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There are always exceptions: Common sense tells you if you place your hand on a hot pan, it'll burn your hand. If you place your hand on a cold one, it'll only be cold. No burn at all. The opposite of this isn't true, its false. Though I do see where you're coming from, I'm just instituting the fact that common sense isn't useless to achieve truth. It is used in everyone's everyday life, no matter what life style they live in.
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# 7

2008-07-03, 09:18
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
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Originally Posted by Arch Enemy
There are always exceptions: Common sense tells you if you place your hand on a hot pan, it'll burn your hand. If you place your hand on a cold one, it'll only be cold. No burn at all. The opposite of this isn't true, its false. Though I do see where you're coming from, I'm just instituting the fact that common sense isn't useless to achieve truth. It is used in everyone's everyday life, no matter what life style they live in.
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Fair point, but in terms of philosophical truth, we shouldn't necessarily "trust our instincts". Definitely agree with you though. It's like how the Greeks showed that we can't trust our senses, because when you walk away from an object it appears to be growing smaller, but in truth it is staying the same size. But, if you think about it, this perspective is essential for your survival, and in that sense it gives you truth of a sort.
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# 8

2008-07-05, 11:30
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
I think it's common sense that sarcasm is a lie.
[blind]
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# 9

2008-07-06, 16:45
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
thank you for the info everyone.
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# 10

2008-07-06, 19:01
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
This thread sucks.
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#11
 2008-07-07, 03:32
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Assmonkey 
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
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Originally Posted by BlindFighterPilot
I think it's common sense that sarcasm is a lie.
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i c wut u did der
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#12
 2008-07-07, 06:04
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
This thread sucks.
this.
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#13
 2008-07-16, 03:52
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
This thread sucks.
like your mom did last night?
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#14
 2008-07-21, 07:11
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
Stop being a bunch of smart asses.
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#15
 2008-07-22, 17:36
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
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Originally Posted by SockMan
Stop being a bunch of smart asses.
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At least we aren't being dumb asses
EDIT: Damn his thread derailed.
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#16
 2008-07-23, 01:05
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
At least we aren't being dumb asses
EDIT: Damn his thread derailed.
Oh that's right. I'm sorry your highness. Would you like a nice warm cup of STFU?
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#17
 2008-07-23, 14:04
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
Oh that's right. I'm sorry your highness. Would you like a nice warm cup of STFU?
yes I would. Is it with cream, or sugar? I need a lot of cream and sugar in my STFU cup.
http://members.arstechnica.com/x/svdsinner/warm_cup_STFU.jpg
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#18
 2008-07-24, 13:55
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Teenage attention whore.
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
*Sigh* Poseur philosophers. How adorable. Sarcasm a lie? Well no. We know what sarcasm is when we see it, therefore our perception is what separates it from being a lie. There's your fucking evidence factor. Why don't you try asking a substantial question?
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#19
 2008-07-24, 18:05
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Re: Sarcasm, 'Common Sense' and all that bullshit
*Sigh* Poseur philosophers.
don't claim to be a philosopher
]How adorable. Sarcasm a lie? Well no. We know what sarcasm is when we see it, therefore our perception is what separates it from being a lie.
Not all people know that it's 'sarcasm' and on the internet it gets muddled up.
Sarcasm[A] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm#endnote_lead) is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony), with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound. Sarcasm can also be used in a humorous or jesting way depending on the intent of the person speaking.
[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm#cite_note-2)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm#cite_note-3)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm#cite_note-4)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm#cite_note-5)[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm#cite_note-6)
-Wikipedia.
If you don't catch their bullshit social crap they can call you an 'idiot' because you don't catch on their crap.
It can be considered a lie as it's intentionally deceiving
There's your fucking evidence factor. Why don't you try asking a substantial question?
Because I'm watching Space Battleship Yamato right now.
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