I took 5 20mg Adderal XR last night at approx. 9:30pm EST. How many would I have to take at 9:00pm EST tonight to achieve the same effect? I am 105 LBS also.

what you would have to do is mash the XR beads so that you get rid of the controlled release if you haven't done so already. if you did do that last night well, you might have to take a bit more or snort your share tonight. if you don't want to snort, i suggest parachuting 120-140mg. that is, after you have crushed the tiny beads of course. :)

That does not stop the control release. It does increase rate of absorption, somewhat, but the time release mechanism is built into the pill matrix itself, so you still have a much slower, and thus longer onset than say, the same amp salt mix.


And in addition to the time release mechanism built into the matrix, Adderall pills are not JUST a single isomer, or even a single salt, as seen here:

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/amphet.htm


which means that even if you were to find some way to actually defeat the time release binders in the pill, you would still have to rebase all of those salts and retitrate into a single salt form, as well as resolve the isomers.


I've heard tartaric acid can be used for resolving stereo-isomers in meth, though I don't remember the exact mechanism involved. I saw a ref to it in the DEA Microgram archives. By rebasing, and then retitrating with tartaric acid, you could perform both steps at once, resolving isomers and cleaning out all the unwanted ions and then end up with pretty much pure dextro amphetamine tartrate


So, while crushing the beads does make it better than leaving them whole, you are still a long way from defeating the pharm companies time release formulae. The different salts involved are specially chosen, and carefully ratioed so as to induce a specific pharmacological effect. That is to say, each salt has a different bioavailability, and absorption rate, as well as elimination rate and a ton of other shit.


These people aren't stupid, so don't think you can outsmart a team of professional pharmacologists at a private company as easily as crushing some beads.

Don't take another 100mg, seriously. You'll get sick as fuck.

Wait a week and then do it!

ahh i see, wasn't aware of that. what we both agree on is faster absorption by crushing the beads, at least! now for future reference, whenever i crush up the adderall xr's, i believe i'll definitely notice a difference in the high in comparison to adderall ir's of the same dose. damnit!

Well all who responded were correct and helpful, but i guess i'll just strengthen the point...

Yes you should open the capsules and crush the beads to greatly enhance the effect, even if there is some time release function still active. Instead of parachuting i just reload it back into the capsule (call me weird), and chute whats left.

100 mg is a lot by any standard for a noob (not implying) taking amps (I think i took 60 mg my first time and was damn high). Dosing again the next day shouldn't require that great an increase (maybe another 20 - 30mg), but as was said, it's not really a winning idea.

If you can wait a week or more than your dopamine levels will be a lot more steady and there won't be a marked cumulative effect from the poisoning.

By the way, how'd yah sleep lol?

@stupid noob: But what about the fact that only half of the beads inside are actually time release?

I ended up getting some weed 30 minutes after I posted. Thanks for all the help, I will keep it in mind for next time.

Source?

Source?

Seconded.

I'm sorry but I'm simply fed up with people who believe that XR+ screwdriver= IR.

Seconded.

I'm sorry but I'm simply fed up with people who believe that XR+ screwdriver= IR.
The majority of the populace are just incredibly stupid man. These are the same people who buy a diet coke with their big mac so they can have a healthy meal.

Ok, again, where the fuck did you hear this? Prove it. I've already explained the time release mechanisms in sufficient detail, with references to prove it. Now you do the same.

If you want to refute what I have to say, then you better be ready to back it the fuck up, or be made a fool of.