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Old 2008-06-23, 22:25
otto_man otto_man is offline
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Default Think I'll try ephedrine

I've read about it on erowid and other sites and i think I'm goin to try it tomorrow.I just have a question about doseage.How much exactly should i take. The pills i bought contain Pseudoephedrine HCI 120 mg. Any help would be greatly apriciated
Thanks,
otto_man
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Old 2008-06-23, 22:27
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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I've read about it on erowid and other sites and i think I'm goin to try it tomorrow.I just have a question about doseage.How much exactly should i take. The pills i bought contain Pseudoephedrine HCI 120 mg. Any help would be greatly apriciated
Thanks,
otto_man


troll?
Psuedo ephedrine is different from plan ol' ephedrine. it gives different effects.
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Old 2008-06-23, 22:29
steel211 steel211 is offline
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and they both suck horribly unless you're having nose problems or need to eat less
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Old 2008-06-23, 23:04
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mah compound
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and they both suck horribly unless you're having nose problems or need to eat less

Or you have a liter of hydriodic acid on hand.
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Old 2008-06-24, 01:00
otto_man otto_man is offline
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troll?
Psuedo ephedrine is different from plan ol' ephedrine. it gives different effects.

so did i waste my moneyon these or can i get an kind of affect from them?
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Old 2008-06-24, 02:42
twitch1433 twitch1433 is offline
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wasted unless processed.


look up the nazi method to making meth and make yourself a small batch.
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Old 2008-06-24, 03:29
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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wasted unless processed.


look up the nazi method to making meth and make yourself a small batch.


If this is referring to a method from the text files DO NOT DO THAT!
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Old 2008-06-24, 05:01
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mah compound
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wasted unless processed.


look up the nazi method to making meth and make yourself a small batch.


Shut the fuck up.
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Old 2008-06-24, 05:34
Skyphetamine Skyphetamine is offline
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Shut the fuck up.

Agreed.
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Old 2008-06-24, 18:21
fretbuzz fretbuzz is offline
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Look for Chinese ephedrine pills marked by the name "Ma Huang". Also you should take caffeine pills with this to enhance the effects.

That or you could buy a commercial caffeine/ephedrine stack brand of pill.

A good solid dose for a healthy man is 200mg caffeine, and 25mg ephedrine combined. Increasing the ephedrine dosage won't increase effects, but increasing the dosage of caffeine is said to help but do not exceed 400mg caffeine. Ephedrine above 50mg can get ugly and lead to being restless, "jitters" and nausia. Ephedrine dosages over 50mg usually make one feel mentally spaced-out as well so overall increasing the dosage past 40-50mg will just make the effects more uncomfortable.

Remember everyone reacts differently to drugs so start with a low 200mg caffeine/20-25mg ephedrine your first time. Drink at least a quart of water with the pill combination or the stack since both caffeine and ephedrine are water hogs. When you start to feel the effects wear off, chugging another half quart of water seems to revive the stimulation.

Just for reference, 120mg of Ma Huang is equal to 12mg ephedrine alkaloids.
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Old 2008-06-24, 18:26
Pooter Pooter is offline
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Or you have a liter of hydriodic acid on hand.

lol wut. Bro, wasting HI on gakked americkan pseudo?

troll?
Psuedo ephedrine is different from plan ol' ephedrine. it gives different effects.

Actually psudo and regular ephedrine have for the most part the same propterties. Not really different.
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Old 2008-06-25, 01:26
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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lol wut. Bro, wasting HI on gakked americkan pseudo?



Actually psudo and regular ephedrine have for the most part the same propterties. Not really different.

ephedrine is much stronger. Psuedoephedrine is man made but on a molecular level it looks exactly the same in 2d but when you look at in 3d they are different.
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Old 2008-06-25, 03:31
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if your that desperate for stimulants, go to a doctor, blatantly say, "i have ADD" and he will give you ritalin.
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Old 2008-06-25, 03:49
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Look for Chinese ephedrine pills marked by the name "Ma Huang". Also you should take caffeine pills with this to enhance the effects.

That or you could buy a commercial caffeine/ephedrine stack brand of pill.

A good solid dose for a healthy man is 200mg caffeine, and 25mg ephedrine combined. Increasing the ephedrine dosage won't increase effects, but increasing the dosage of caffeine is said to help but do not exceed 400mg caffeine. Ephedrine above 50mg can get ugly and lead to being restless, "jitters" and nausia. Ephedrine dosages over 50mg usually make one feel mentally spaced-out as well so overall increasing the dosage past 40-50mg will just make the effects more uncomfortable.

Remember everyone reacts differently to drugs so start with a low 200mg caffeine/20-25mg ephedrine your first time. Drink at least a quart of water with the pill combination or the stack since both caffeine and ephedrine are water hogs. When you start to feel the effects wear off, chugging another half quart of water seems to revive the stimulation.

Just for reference, 120mg of Ma Huang is equal to 12mg ephedrine alkaloids.


This, and pop an asprin maybe 1/2 hour before you take your caffieine/ephedrine. Hope you don't have heart problems!
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Old 2008-06-25, 05:04
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if your that desperate for stimulants, go to a doctor, blatantly say, "i have ADD" and he will give you ritalin.


This is actually fairly accurate.
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Old 2008-06-25, 07:39
TrainWrecked425 TrainWrecked425 is offline
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ya I was at this kids house one time and he said he had a sack of ephedra that he bought from some earb store he then proceded to smoke it for like 2 hours straight out of this aluminum homemade ghetto ass bong dont think iVE seen anything sadder in a long time
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Old 2008-06-25, 21:07
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ephedrine is much stronger. Psuedoephedrine is man made but on a molecular level it looks exactly the same in 2d but when you look at in 3d they are different.
Yeah they're isomers, and when your cooking up meth, they can be used interchangeably in many cases. That is what I meant.
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Old 2008-06-25, 23:51
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Yeah they're isomers, and when your cooking up meth, they can be used interchangeably in many cases. That is what I meant.

epedrine is 3x as strong as pseudo.
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Old 2008-06-26, 00:54
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if your that desperate for stimulants, go to a doctor, blatantly say, "i have ADD" and he will give you ritalin.


don't do that lol, you will ruin all hope for going into any military branch, lol.

If you're susceptible to stimulants than some ephedrine will do you some good, but if you're an experienced user it wouldn't be "hardcore" enough for you. No harm i trying it though. The other guys got the dosing for you, and the worst that will happen is that it will be something different. At least you can say you tried it.

And guys, if he wanted to do meth, I'm sure he would ask for those dosages.
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Old 2008-06-26, 05:53
Pooter Pooter is offline
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ephedrine is 3x as strong as pseudo.

Nah shit really? Maybe if you would have read the posts, you would have noticed that I acknowledged that pharmacologically, the isomerisim at the OH matters.

When you cook (Psudo)ephedrine, you eliminate the chirality at the OH group, so either way, your going to get your desired product. As I have said before... that is what I meant.
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Old 2008-06-26, 13:57
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don't do that lol, you will ruin all hope for going into any military branch, lol.

Well golly, I can't think of anything worse than that.
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Old 2008-06-26, 14:28
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Originally Posted by otto_man
I've read about it on erowid and other sites and i think I'm goin to try it tomorrow.I just have a question about doseage.How much exactly should i take. The pills i bought contain Pseudoephedrine HCI 120 mg. Any help would be greatly apriciated
Thanks,
otto_man


That shits like 15 dollars a bottle for like 125 pills.


7 years ago, might have changed.

*shrugs*
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Old 2008-06-26, 18:18
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mah compound
Default Re: Think I'll try ephedrine

That shits like 15 dollars a bottle for like 125 pills.


7 years ago, might have changed.

*shrugs*
No, the highest count box is 48, and those are 30mg pills. 125 120mg pills would be 15 grams of PSE, and most states have a MONTHLY limit of 9 grams, so uh, you are wrong somewhere. Also, lol, a dollar a gram MY HAIRY ASSHOLE THEY ARE A DOLLAR A GRAM.


Seriously, just stop.
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Old 2008-06-26, 19:46
Pooter Pooter is offline
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Default Re: Think I'll try ephedrine

No, the highest count box is 48, and those are 30mg pills. 125 120mg pills would be 15 grams of PSE, and most states have a MONTHLY limit of 9 grams, so uh, you are wrong somewhere. Also, lol, a dollar a gram MY HAIRY ASSHOLE THEY ARE A DOLLAR A GRAM.


Seriously, just stop.

No like hes right. My parents used to have this giant bottle of pseudo. They bought it from a body building store and used it as dirt cheap allergy meds. This was more than 7 years ago tho.
 
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