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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2008-06-22, 17:01
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Default WTF are mind machines???

penis
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Old 2008-06-22, 17:58
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Old 2008-06-22, 18:13
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I Think your post would've been taken more seriously had you actually given us some info on wtf you're talking about, instead of just filling up the body of your post with "penis"

smh
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Old 2008-06-22, 18:19
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Inb4lock.
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Old 2008-06-22, 18:43
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Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.
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Old 2008-06-22, 18:58
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Ahahaha.

Crazy fucks.
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Old 2008-06-22, 19:01
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Just put your foil hat on. Then we wouldn't have trouble with mind machines now would we?
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Old 2008-06-22, 19:30
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A mind machine (in some countries called a psychowalkman) uses sound and/or light to alter the brainwave frequency of the user, resulting in altered states of consciousness that have been compared to those obtained from meditation and shamanic exploration.

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Old 2008-06-22, 20:45
Incubustis Incubustis is offline
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I have used a brainwave generator which emits different frequencies to different ears, producing a certain wave length (alpha, beta, etc..) in your brain. I have gotten minimal relaxing effects from this, but I am extremely interested in trying this (and other mind machines such as visual hypnosis type things etc.) in combination with psychedelics.

One person who has ALOT of experience with this stuff is someone named Zoe7. He has written 2 very interesting books, 'Into the void' and 'Back from the void' (I think). There is an EXTREMELY interesting podcast by him you can listen to here - http://tinyurl.com/4meypa .

Here is a quick explanation of him from Matrix masters.com -
"Zoe7 is a multi-dimensional synergy personality cluster who inhabits the body and mind of consciousness researcher, Joseph Marti. (The other five personalities are: Max McCullan, Ebhrious, Jiebro, Kzark Prestidius, and Lee Steel.) His book, Into The Void Exploring Consciousness, Hyperspace and Beyond Using Brain Technology, Psychedelics and Altered-Mind States, depicts Marti’s experiments with mind machines, entheogens, and psychological time travel, how the Zoe7 cluster came to be, as well as new theories on parallel universes and probable Earths, the mechanics of reality and existence, and the mind of God."

Some may think he sounds like a nut, as I do a little, but his podcast is SO damn interesting!
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Old 2008-06-23, 05:15
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Inb4lock.

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Old 2008-06-24, 03:29
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I have used a brainwave generator which emits different frequencies to different ears, producing a certain wave length (alpha, beta, etc..) in your brain. I have gotten minimal relaxing effects from this, but I am extremely interested in trying this (and other mind machines such as visual hypnosis type things etc.) in combination with psychedelics.


Hate to break it to you but that was a placebo effect.
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Old 2008-06-24, 03:41
Incubustis Incubustis is offline
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Hate to break it to you but that was a placebo effect. You know this how?
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Old 2008-06-24, 14:51
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I was reading about this thing called the voodoo box or something where you hook up alligator clips to your ears and it sends electrical impulses to your brain and makes you feel drunk.

BTW egzburg a placebo effects an effect all the same. If I bang up something I thinks heroin and feel the effects of heroin I couldn't give two shits if it really was heroin or not as long as I'm stoned.
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Old 2008-07-01, 09:52
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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damn, your fucking gay. grow some ball hair n00b.
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Old 2008-07-01, 12:41
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I can honestly say that you make me want to shoot myself in the face with a knife.
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Old 2008-07-01, 13:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arrow2brain
I can honestly say that you make me want to shoot myself in the face with a knife.


Go ahead, no ones stopping you.
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Old 2008-07-01, 23:16
DoctorMayhem DoctorMayhem is offline
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I can honestly say that you make me want to shoot myself in the face with a knife.


i can honestly say youre a faggot and everyone wnats you to do it so quit being a pussy ass bitch and just get it over with nobody is stopping you huh what ar eyou waiting for bitch yeah thtas what i thought youre too scared to do it little girl hows your pussy doing pussy get that yeast infection checked out before you get pregnant!
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Old 2008-07-02, 05:52
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There is an EXTREMELY interesting podcast by him you can listen to here - http://tinyurl.com/4meypa .


Ah, thanks for the link. That was extremely interesting.
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Old 2008-07-02, 05:59
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I can honestly say that you make me want to shoot myself in the face with a knife.


i would pay to see that, along with you stabbing a hobo with an m16.
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Old 2008-07-03, 15:58
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You know this how?

Because no unbiased* research has proven that this actually does anything to the brain and that the trance like effects are more likely self induced, thus making the application of a brainwave machine more of a placebo effect than a real one.

* By unbiased, I mean researchers who aren't also trying to sell stuff or people who have claimed that this works without a scientific study. For more information on my viewpoint read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwave_synchronization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats#Hypothetical_effects_on_brain_funct ion

Notice the number of [citation needed]s on the first article, an then look at the odd sources on the second one that all seem to conflict with each other, or themselves cite sources that are selling stuff.


Now I'm not one to always be 100% right, but it seems that there is no proof for this one way or another. The total lack of interest in this field by mainstream scientists is what makes me believe it is bunk, because if it was real then there would be more than just these few dubious "researchers" cashing in on this. There would be corporations cashing in on it and large studies and books of evidence of it if it was conclusively effective.

Now if it I am proven wrong by a certified scientific study on this with hard conclusive evidence, then I'll admit that I was a douche and retract my statement of you having a placebo effect. But as it stands, I believe you were under a placebo effect. Now you can accept that or not, but that's my opinion.
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Old 2008-07-03, 16:15
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its funny - i noticed this for the first time about 5 minutes before i saw this thread.
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Old 2008-07-03, 16:35
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its funny - i noticed this for the first time about 5 minutes before i saw this thread.


totally a conspiracy man.
 
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