My life is actually starting to suck because I'm a good person. WTF? My girlfriend left me because I treated her really well, she didn't know how to reciprocate or deal with it, so she left me. Her own guilt that she wasn't as good of a person back, made her leave. WTF? I'm thinking that it might be time to rework my personality and adapt to the times.

Step 1: I'm going to start playing every woman I meet. Not give a shit about them and fuck every chick that will let me. String them all along and make them bend over backwards to keep me around.

Step 2: I'm going to improve my appearance. I'm going to buy clothes that maybe aren't a good representation of myself, but the bitches will like. I'm going to trade in my 2002 sierra next year and get a BMW M3 convertible.

Step 3: I'm going to join a local church, put on a show and fuck all the hot women in the congregation.

What do you think?

Sounds like you've got it made.

I think me and you are in the same boat, i help people all the time and get no thanks and im strating to end up as the good guy friend that the girls just want to "talk to" and nothing more. And yet all my asshole friends have amazing women that they treat like shit but still stick around. I mean WTF indeed.

nice guys are pussies

only a lesbian would wanna date a pussy

so therefor you must reverse your pussy into a dick

lol sadly for you, chem is right

The same girlfriend that you manipulated until she felt pressured into letting you sleep around?

I really think you overvalue yourself; your girlfriend seems to agree.

I don't know why I even bother commenting on your pitiful antics; you won't find love, so you're already as lost as you can be.

HAH!
owned

Man speaks the truth.

It's a bitch isn't it, i'm becoming far too cynical due to womens attitude like this.

Ouch.

wow..

Why does it have to be a facade?

I really don't get it. Do other people actually have trouble hating women? Personally I don't know how you can not hate them. I sometimes wonder myself how I've managed not to kill all the women I see, personally I wish the whole female gender had one collective face for me to slap and deform with fire.

It's incredibly easy, just listen to your heart.

^ Mmmhmm.

But if your heart is like the OP's, like I said, it's incredibly hard to change your feelings. You may feel good for a while, it may work in some situations, but when you find something real and true, the facade you've put up proves itself to be just that, a facade.

By the sounds of things, you weren't a nice guy to start with.

I never slept around on my ex, not once. She played games and talked me up, trying to say the things she thought I wanted to here. Now she feels like shit and wants me back cause all the guys she met since are fucking assholes or are way to clingy. Haven't decided if I want to take her back yet.

Toraton- Sometimes my threads contain theoretical next steps to get input on the current situation and possible paths for solving a problem. Basically I'm consulting totse on possible routes, some which aren't likely to happen. Learn to discern between posts before adding your asshole comments.

stripped-"Eventually you'll get tired of the facade. It's hard to truely change yourself and your feelings toward the opposite sex."

See, my obviousely flawed first post yielded this comment, which is certainly true, and gave me a great idea that will solve my problem.

Since most women are attracted to assholes at first, but usually get tired later and leave. I'm going to counteract that trend. I'm going to act like a dick at first to draw women in, and then slowly drift back to my natural self. That way I don't have to keep up a facade that contradicts my true feelings, and I'll keep the girl by offering something more as her interest in the dick head persona fades. So I can get the girl, and then keep her happy by resorting back to my true self as she desires it more. The stupid games that women play.

No, toraton had it right; you are a fucking douchebag.

i like nice guys

So the romance guru's run out of answers so he's converting to OVERT douchebaggery rather than concealing it?

Maybe the girl got tired of your idea of "compromise".

Or maybe it was your ENORMOUS pecker.

huh? were u his former gf?

Stay as yourself and meet new people

best idea evar!

I'm a nice guy because it's important to myself, not because I'm fixated with keeping a girl around.

Sounds like you're losing your sense of identity and you're the one who is going to suffer even more.

Women like assholes. It's a fact of life, you should have known this schmuck. You know what they say..a black eye a day makes them stay .

Good luck, just dont fuck yourself over.

A guy i know got played because he was a nice guy, had a hot ass GF too. What did he do to adjust? Ahhh started running his ass off 24/7, training jiu-jitsu, and signed up to serve in the military. Then he hooked up with a geeky ass girl that he "role-plays" with....

Whatever makes you happy. Just remember you can be nice to a girl but dont make it a every second thing when your with her type of deal....just when she deserves it.

Do it now!!!
Fuck them for totse!

Actually my ex left me because she fealt inferior to me and that she wasn't good enough. I didn't treat her how she fealt about herself. I wouldn't cheat, I wouldn't beat her, I didn't fuck her rough enough out of fear of really hurting her. I'm large, and very strong for my size. She didn't think she was good enough looking for me. I'm hot, very hot. I can pick up women who are perfect 10's. She is probably a 7.5-8. She couldn't handle that she wasn't the best that I could do. My family is also fairly rich. Her insecurities tore us apart. To her, I was to modest and didn't treat her like she was lower than me. So she snapped. She wanted me to be a womanizing asshole that would treat her like shit while she took care of my kids and I fucked a young model mistress. So far, I've gotten this same reaction from all women. Pretty god damned fucked up If you ask me. Apparently I have to much going for me to not be a prick. The funny thing is that this reaction is actually starting to change me. I'm starting to get tired of this crap and I'm starting to become an arrogant self-centered asshole. Really, maybe I should treat people like shit If they're so weak. Maybe I should use my brain to manipulate, control, and get whatever I want from people. My conscience no longer serves me as a positive. I'm actually wondering why I ever gave a shit. Are people really so fucked up that they get upset when people above them don't treat them like shit? Yet they want the people below them to be humble and nice?

Actually my ex left me because she fealt inferior to me and that she wasn't good enough. I didn't treat her how she fealt about herself. I wouldn't cheat, I wouldn't beat her, I didn't fuck her rough enough out of fear of really hurting her. I'm large, and very strong for my size. She didn't think she was good enough looking for me. I'm hot, very hot. I can pick up women who are perfect 10's. She is probably a 7.5-8. She couldn't handle that she wasn't the best that I could do. My family is also fairly rich. Her insecurities tore us apart. To her, I was to modest and didn't treat her like she was lower than me. So she snapped. She wanted me to be a womanizing asshole that would treat her like shit while she took care of my kids and I fucked a young model mistress. So far, I've gotten this same reaction from all women. Pretty god damned fucked up If you ask me. Apparently I have to much going for me to not be a prick. The funny thing is that this reaction is actually starting to change me. I'm starting to get tired of this crap and I'm starting to become an arrogant self-centered asshole. Really, maybe I should treat people like shit If they're so weak. Maybe I should use my brain to manipulate, control, and get whatever I want from people. My conscience no longer serves me as a positive. I'm actually wondering why I ever gave a shit. Are people really so fucked up that they get upset when people above them don't treat them like shit? Yet they want the people below them to be humble and nice?

^^^^

Dont know what it is, but being extra nice to girls translates into being "lacking" in their eyes, something they do not really desire... just as we see certain things in women that may lead as away from them, negative traits that post up a red flag on them.

Not saying that i do not respect women, but i surely will not run the "nice guy" routine knowing that it gets you absolutely no where...but then yet treating them differently than the rest will have you on the top of their list(whether that translates into being a asshole/dick to them)....forced to run with what works you know?

Sounds like a good balance, hope it works out!

You see, im a nice guy as well, but generally it works for me.

Maybe because im nice and also cheeky at the same time, whilst knowing how to charm anyone and be overtly shy all at the same time. Im a very confusing individual ive been told because of this but oh well, it works for me. :P

I don't know if you have to be a complete asshole man, but to tell you the truth, it looks like you're already there.

You just have to not be a pushover. The question is, do you really want to change just to get pussy?

Did I read that you consider yourself a nice guy because you didn't cheat on your girlfriend?

Im a nice guy, but i still know how to put my fucking foot down if somethings up. Being a nice guy doesnt mean lettin them do what they want n walk all over you lol dont you have any self respect? if they see you have authority in the relationship it makes u look more like a man lol like a leader or something.. I dunno but im doing fine being nice to people? dunno what the fuck youre doing wrong but u seem to love yourself alot.

Maybe youre one of those people that dont do shit in a relationship but inside your own head u think u do.. haha its funny when people like that say "you dont appreciate what i do for you!" you can tell theire messed up in the head.. damn dellussional(?) people!

How many times has this thread been made in S&A?

Here's the thing, Champ, the broken attract the broken. We are a reflection of the people we're surrounded by, and if you pretend to be an ass, you attract asses, then you become an ass. In your case, maybe you become a dumbass.

Also, from what's been said it sounds like your girl didn't leave you because you were 'too' nice. From your wording of this situation and your replies, you should consider taking a real look at the events, sounds like you're playing tricks on yourself.

Let me give you some advice that a pornstar gave me along time ago. Its really helped me out when I needed it and I think it will help you.

A girl likes to be treated like shit. A girl likes the badboy image and girls belive that a guy can be too nice. A woman belives that a man should treat her well. A woman likes to be treated like a woman.

I think the thing that put the nail in the coffin was that she didn't get along well with my family. My mom is a cunt, and she didn't feel like putting up with her shit. I don't blame her though, as my mom can make you shit in everyone's eyes.

I was a little distant with my ex as well. I've learned to change that now. I tell people exactly what's on my mind. Apparently I didn't do much else wrong. We're even still good friends and are room mates. She's sitting right next to me right now. Must be cause I'm a dick. Learn and adapt.

Women are also stupid hypocrites. I know lots of cunts like you who lecture everyone about "Healthy Relationships", and always end up with assholes yourselves.

Women want to be dominated. Just like men want to dominate. We both have these feelings, doesn't it make sense everybody?

So let me get this straight, you "know lots of cunts" and you're acting like these 'assholes'?

Well with insight like that I guess that you must be a professor.


Domination and being a prick are two very different things. Boys, like you, have very limited interpretation skills and I suppose put all your eggs into one basket.

If you want to go around playing pimps 'n hos with no self-respect, looking like an idiot, that's who you'll end up with. An empty, broken girl who greatest desire is an idiot.

Lmao alot of fucks who think they had it made because they ran it on such and such girl are now with some under-aged girl or some ugly bitch. I guess if your lacking your lacking...truth hurts.

All girls love being mistreated, regardless of what her "personality" is like. It's why things like "the Game" which tell you to "neg" women to bring their self-esteem down, are a huge industry worth millions.


Yes, I am one.

Explain to me the difference? What do you call a man ordering you around and controlling you? Which is the natural way, mind you.

I have plenty of self-respect. I just have little respect for women . How does that make me look like an idiot? And who gives a fuck if the girl is "broken" or empty, as long as she's hot? All women are "Empty" in the sense that they are not very deep or critical thinkers and only care about themselves, generally they are only interested in pursuing hedonism. Most girls males find sexually attractive you would probably call "BROKEN".

No, it sounds like you already are an arrogant asshole. You describe yourself as if you were a gift from God. She broke up with you because you were too good for her?
Sounds like bullshit to me, but that's just my opinion. And if that is the way the women you date want to be treated, you're dating some pretty fucked up people.

You don't have any respect for women because you're still messing with little girls. Which is fine. You said that's what you like. There are plenty of hot, empty, broken girls out there just for boys like you. However for men that want beautiful, intelligent, strong women, they do exist. Once you're ready to find a woman, good luck. Because empty girls are easy, they're everywhere. But a good woman takes effort. And if you never decide to, that's fine too. It's just not right to generalize (And the same goes for men too for those who immediately think "omgsexist").

I dont know man, I dont know if being a dick will get you any more girls or not, but it will make you more confident in general. I mean confidence is always a plus. When you meet people if you keep them on their toes, you stay in control of the situation. I mean hell, you can rip into people without being an overt douche bag at the same time. Now I'm not saying kick people when their down, but when you meet someone instead of the usual hello... blah blah just try laying into them. Everyone has a huge ego, but when your looking down at them theres none of that social pressure. Just say whats on your mind and if they get offended fuck em. Not the smoothest way, but definitely a way to handle things on your own terms.

Let me guess, you're different and special. The problem isn't just that stupid women are the rule, but also the fact that they all seem to think they are something different, when they're the same "Perks of a wallflower" reading subhuman who thinks they're intellectual. Fuck you. Real life isn't a jodie foster movie, and you're not J-Lo in "ENOUGH". You're just another long haired turd, with glasses. I tower over you.

1. Never said anything about myself, but personally I consider myself somewhere between immature girl and intelligent woman. The strong women I spoke of are OTHER people, to clarify.

2. I am different and special okok jk

3. J Lo movies are for teenyboppers man. And they're god-awful.

4. lol you called me turd

Aww, cry me a river.

Which girl shattered your heart into a thousand pieces and left you so bitter and cold?

Don't listen to these sappy lovestruck chumps. Dress stylish, fuck lots of girls, be a cocky asshole, and make YOURSELF priority #1! It's good to live like that, if only for a while. Live the life of a stud.

Hey, a post by azalie I actually agree with.

ITT: Azalie shits all over CTBT. In the most ladylike fashion possible.

This whole forum is stuck up her ass cause she is female and asian.... tsk tsk

I'm gay.

That's what SHE said!

I AM GAY!

Edit: But do you have a messenger besides Yahoo?

This is the only thing I agree and am in the same boat with you right now.

Lucky me, I can fix this over time.

If you're a nice guy then be a nice guy, don't try and change yourself to fuck around, that shit gets old. your ex is obviously an idiot for taking you for granted, just move on and find someone better

From this thread I have deduced two things:

(1) OP is a homosexual
(2) azalie is a homosexual

What are you, her internet boyfriend?

None, I just follow the way it always has been, before the dawn of ridiculous societies that expect men and women to act in ways that are not natural.

We're supposed to drag them by their hair into the love-cave.

I'm just now realizing it's true that nice guys finish last. Fortunately, I'm not being an asshole to everyone to prove anything or get any women, but because I truly hate them.

Look, you fucking pussy, she's probably not leaving you because you're a "nice guy." Chances are, she's leaving because you're a soft, squishy peice of shit. You're a non-confident peice of nothing whom she probably knows to be an inferior product. Get over yourself and your stupid fucking "it must be her fault, I'm too good" attitude. You're not too good, you're not a nice guy, you're a fucking pussy. Deal with it you spineless sea urchin peice of shit.

This.

Take a deep breath. Smell that? Now pull your head out of your ass.

Same. That's why I don't use toilet paper or soap. Fuckin' unnatural shit

Lawl, is that the only thing you can say? You got totally owned, I thought that much was obvious.

Women do like to be dominated, but not all like to be treated poorly. Women respond best to me when I tell them what I want, and then tell them its their choice and that I don't give a shit either way.

Tomorrow night, this woman I met is coming over, and I'm cooking dinner for her. And then we're going to fuck each others brains out. I told her that I wanted her for friends with benefits, and if she wanted the same, great, if not, oh well. She then replied, what would you like me to bring? I dominated the situation by restricting choices, and she loved it. Straight forwardness works. She's happy because she feels special because I'm making her dinner, and that I want to fuck her, but at the same time I could easily find another woman no problem. I'll treat her well, charm her, make her laugh, and then make her cum hard. I'll even cuddle with her after sex so she doesn't get that used feeling.

Even my ex still plans on marrying me and having my children. She told me the other day that she loves me because I give her everything she needs emotionally. She doesn't even hate me that I'm having fun on the side, because I give her things that no other man has ever been able to do. She actually encourages it. She still sleeps in my bed, with my hand on her tits.

Sure, I really want to fuck women, but I like to make them feel special and make them happy. Then we both enjoy the experience, and they don't feel cheap or bad about themselves.

It's guys who promise the world and then kick women to the curb is what women don't like. It's damaging to women to do this to them. You're a psychopath if you think this is acceptable behavior.

This. It really ain't worth it in the end. If I end up alone for the rest of my life just because I don't treat women like shit, so be it. I am more concerned with what's in my heart and doing right than putting up a show for some bitch that doesn't have self-respect to begin with.

Just because you aren't able to attract stable women doesn't mean they don't exist.

What is natural?