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Old 2008-06-22, 04:05
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Default How to determine if RC source is legit

I think I found a legit RC site, the only alarming factors are that they sell plastic bags, and the payment options are mostly money order services and e-gold. Canada based.

The site is professional looking, prices are average, but with undrug fucked over I am skeptical to purchase, any tips?
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Old 2008-06-22, 04:31
Inti Inti is offline
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I know exactly what you're talking about, they're a well-known scam.

Formerly legit, quit sending orders a couple years ago.
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Old 2008-06-22, 04:37
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the one some dude accidentily leaked right? Damn, that blows. Well back to searching around. Thanks.
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Old 2008-06-22, 04:43
Inti Inti is offline
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yeah, legit sources tend to be chinese or taiwanese.
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Old 2008-06-22, 06:15
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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question...

if the United States Department of Interior spends about 39,000 dollars to a Chinese chemical/pharmaceutical company is it a good sign?

it looks like the money came from geological stuff... artical from Stanford about some of the chemicals used in some testing so it seems like they do ship out chemicals and not just a scam...
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Old 2008-06-22, 18:01
spinal_cord spinal_cord is offline
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you can never trust those damn canadians.
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Old 2008-06-22, 18:29
Shans283 Shans283 is offline
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yeah, legit sources tend to be chinese or taiwanese.


not true. uhh, domestic FTW? maybe for bulk, but customs FTL...

you can never trust those damn canadians.

au contraire, my friend :D just a matter of finding the right canadians

i'm pretty sure i know what source you're talking about though, OP. do you have to register/login on their site to see their menu/order? and they have an ad for the bags on the front page? from what i've heard, this one is good, but backed up/busy right now.
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Old 2008-06-22, 18:51
branflakes branflakes is offline
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its undrugged.org now
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Old 2008-06-22, 18:54
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This could be quite alarming for me because this sounds very much like my source. I've bought from them, probably 2 years ago or so and they sent. And they've updated their products. Meh now I'm curious if you're talking about the same source I use, sounds very much the same.


Never mind, according to undrugged there have been people who have purchased from this vendor quite recently and have delivered. I doubt it's a scam site.
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Old 2008-06-22, 19:13
Shans283 Shans283 is offline
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you guys can do what you want, and i am no expert, but i have done research, and talked/listened to well respected people that know what they're talking about, and from what i can see, undrugged is a big, giant, rat, scammer board, and you all are fueling this fire by feeding it legit sources. there are alternatives out there, you just have to find them. so don't be lazy and go "undrugged" your new source, or a source someone leaked to you (grrr), because you are fueling the very fire we (the community) are trying to put out.

sites like this, and people like that, are the reason why there's so many god damn scammers out there that are making a LOT of money through this, and the reason that this community has to be so underground.

so even if you can't find legit sources, or want to make sure yours is legit, for the sake of everyone else in the community, DO NOT undrugged it.

this is just my opinion, collected over time. if anyone has hard evidence that i am wrong, please post it. but this is what i have seen and heard about, and i refuse to use undrugged.
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Old 2008-06-22, 19:40
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Default Re: How to determine if RC source is legit

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Originally Posted by Shans283
you guys can do what you want, and i am no expert, but i have done research, and talked/listened to well respected people that know what they're talking about, and from what i can see, undrugged is a big, giant, rat, scammer board, and you all are fueling this fire by feeding it legit sources. there are alternatives out there, you just have to find them. so don't be lazy and go "undrugged" your new source, or a source someone leaked to you (grrr), because you are fueling the very fire we (the community) are trying to put out.

sites like this, and people like that, are the reason why there's so many god damn scammers out there that are making a LOT of money through this, and the reason that this community has to be so underground.

so even if you can't find legit sources, or want to make sure yours is legit, for the sake of everyone else in the community, DO NOT undrugged it.

this is just my opinion, collected over time. if anyone has hard evidence that i am wrong, please post it. but this is what i have seen and heard about, and i refuse to use undrugged.


Thanks, I was just going to, but you made a good point. And Shans, that is the exact one I am talking about! Thanks for the input.
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Old 2008-06-22, 19:42
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Thanks, I was just going to, but you made a good point. And Shans, that is the exact one I am talking about! Thanks for the input.

If you wouldn't mind getting on AIM, I'd like to know if you're talking about the same source as mine. My AIM is SlpCtrl. If it is I can confirm that they are/were legit when I ordered from them.
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Old 2008-06-22, 19:46
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If you wouldn't mind getting on AIM, I'd like to know if you're talking about the same source as mine. My AIM is SlpCtrl. If it is I can confirm that they are/were legit when I ordered from them.
Get online, I am not going to tell you the URL, but a description.
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Old 2008-06-22, 19:49
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Get online, I am not going to tell you the URL, but a description.


I added you but I don't see you. I'll take a screen shot and black out the URL bar.
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Old 2008-06-22, 19:52
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Default Re: How to determine if RC source is legit

I added you but I don't see you. I'll take a screen shot and black out the URL bar.

Thats my old AIM, Ill put on my new one.
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Old 2008-06-22, 19:57
Shans283 Shans283 is offline
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W_S_T: if you are sure we are talking about the same one, then word is that they have been really busy lately, but they have been legit in the past. i personally haven't ordered from them, but i know people that have.

if you want to talk to me more about it on aim, go ahead, my SN is in my profile. just make sure you are using pidgin + OTR plugin if you are discussing any of this on aim, word is that AOL has an entire department dedicated to mining data from AIM logs and turning it over to LE.

also, even if you black out the URL bar they can just search google for a string of text on the page and it will most likely show up. be very careful, too many people know about too many sources already, and we don't need more kidiots ruining it for the rest of us (not calling anyone here a kidiot)

note: i will never give him or anyone else any sources, hints, or anything of the like. so if anyone asks me on aim for sources they are a fucking idiot. i was offering this so that he can check his source w/o undrugged, and if you think im fishing for sources, go fuck yourself.
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Old 2008-06-22, 20:09
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Originally Posted by Shans283
W_S_T: if you are sure we are talking about the same one, then word is that they have been really busy lately, but they have been legit in the past. i personally haven't ordered from them, but i know people that have.

if you want to talk to me more about it on aim, go ahead, my SN is in my profile. just make sure you are using pidgin + OTR plugin if you are discussing any of this on aim, word is that AOL has an entire department dedicated to mining data from AIM logs and turning it over to LE.

also, even if you black out the URL bar they can just search google for a string of text on the page and it will most likely show up. be very careful, too many people know about too many sources already, and we don't need more kidiots ruining it for the rest of us (not calling anyone here a kidiot)

note: i will never give him or anyone else any sources, hints, or anything of the like. so if anyone asks me on aim for sources they are a fucking idiot. i was offering this so that he can check his source w/o undrugged, and if you think im fishing for sources, go fuck yourself.



I'm talking to him and he's talking about the same vendor I have. I've ordered from them and they're legit. When they have sales their shipping can take a few weeks though. It's worth it, they have quality shit and are very professional.

By the way, there are methods of blocking google from searching your site, and I'm sure these RC companies are fully aware of the methods. If they choose not to(this vendor only blocks certain pages like the images folder for security reasons, they don't block their site from being crawled by google) then obviously they want to use google as a means to get their site out there.
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Old 2008-06-22, 20:12
Shans283 Shans283 is offline
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alright, cool. if we are talking about the same vendor (i do beleive we are), they were a bit too expensive for my taste, so went through a dif one. but word is they follow through and are legit.
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Old 2008-06-22, 20:19
Incubustis Incubustis is offline
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yeah, legit sources tend to be chinese or taiwanese.
Hah, how wrong you are my friend.
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Old 2008-06-22, 20:46
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shans knows what hes talking about . undrugged is ran by a 18 year old reverse scammer by the name of Auraith X and he comes from scotland. if you post reviews there you are just putting these sources at risk. he also runs a source discussion board too which will not be mentioned, but i want no part of it. i talk to good people who know what the fuck they are talking about and undrugged is not the place you want to mess with.there is NO reason to post a review on an unsecure site like undrugged. other boards have already infiltrated and pruned their weakly protected database. its a joke. they try to lead you to believe its a well protected site with security. its hosted on one of the most basic and weakest off shore servers known to man
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Old 2008-06-22, 20:48
Incubustis Incubustis is offline
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shans knows what hes talking about . undrugged is ran by a 18 year old reverse scammer by the name of Auraith X and he comes from scotland. if you post reviews there you are just putting these sources at risk. he also runs a source discussion board too which will not be mentioned, but i want no part of it. i talk to good people who know what the fuck they are talking about and undrugged is not the place you want to mess with.there is NO reason to post a review on an unsecure site like undrugged. other boards have already infiltrated and pruned their weakly protected database. its a joke. they try to lead you to believe its a well protected site with security. its hosted on one of the most basic and weakest off shore servers known to man

Exactly right.
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Old 2008-06-22, 21:11
Shans283 Shans283 is offline
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thanks cid. see, if everyone stopped using that piece of shit, they wouldnt have anyone left to scam. so please spread the word, and NEVER enter ANY source into undrugged. it is leading to the deterioration of our noble community.

also, cid, i have a blacklight poster of the pic in your profile:D its awesome to look on any drugs, but i find it the most interesting on 2C-x compounds, or with my good friend lucy ;)
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Old 2008-06-22, 21:19
cid cid is offline
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no problem shans, just spreadin the truth that so many people are blind to.

i have that poster in my room too and i have to agree it looks quite fascinating with a good dose of some 2C-E or a couple blotter hits and a black light to illuminate it. i have a couple other black light posters that are amazing, i'm droppin some rolling stones blotter later on tonight, can't wait :)
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Old 2008-06-22, 21:30
Shans283 Shans283 is offline
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nice, i have either some rolling stones or hoffmans coming soon. can't wait to try 'em!!

too bad blacklights give you cataracts...i wear sunglasses around them but i'm still not sure if that's enough protection... e: this sucks because i have a bigass blacklight that i barely use since i found this out. i need some trippy, UV-blocking and reactive (so they glow :D) trip goggles for tripping around black lights.

i also have a bob marley blacklight poster, and an "eat me" poster with a shroom on it. i have a few others that aren't blacklight, like a list of about 20 common chemicals and their molecules, along with a scarface poster. they're awesoome to trip to.
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Old 2008-06-22, 23:07
Unseeen Unseeen is offline
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i used to have a list of a few RC sources but back then i didnt have money for it. since then I've done rolled a quite a few times & i've kinda been lookin at RCs more but it seems like my sources dried up. everyone seems so hostile about sources & i have no idea where to look but it's cool. i'll eventually find something
 
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