When you say "ugly", what exactly do you mean?

Just keep doing what you've been doing when you meet her, and you'll score. For a guy, looks don't mean shit. What matters is your personality and the amount of muscle/fat you've got, and both of those you can control.

Haha I was in this situation in 8th grade.

we talked on the phone at a friends house and i got her number.

I felt she was kind of disappointed when we met, but we went skinny dipping in a pool on top of a loft, first pussy i ever saw.

i ended up fucking that one up myself, but i think honestly she will probably slowly break off contact.


edit: and trust me i'm uglier. but if she's as hot as you say she is i think 2b is probably what will happen.

she will stop chilling with you and you will be stupified. it sucks yeah, but that's life yall.

lolol kill joy hahaa

^ Don't listen to the killjoy. He's just pissed off he can't find any hot girls himself.

Nah, my whole post was calm and methodical. I'm not trying to flame you like CarbonB probably would, I'm just telling it like it is, not as a Disney cartoon would like it to be.

I remember this one study I saw in a Social Psychology textbook in which they had a pretty large group of college students(over 100, half women) take an extensive personality test. They also had a separate group evaluate a picture of each person that took the personality test, and rate their physical attractiveness on a 1-5 scale. With multiple people rating each person, the ratings were very likely to be consistent.

They then had each of these college students, who hadn't known their physical attractiveness had been rated, only their personality, go on dates with another person who had taken the test. After the date, each person was asked if they would like to go on another date with the person they just had a date with.

No matter what factors "lined up" in regards to the random personality test that came into play, the only reliable indicator for if someone would want to go on another date was if the person they just went on a date with was physically attractive. This applied to both men and women. In other words, to neither sex did it matter if they happened to be paired up in regards to shyness, intelligence, sense of humor, etc. The only thing that mattered to either sex was if the date was hot looking.

What can I say, I actually have evidence for my assertion that if his self-assessment is correct he probably doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.

Nah, my whole post was calm and methodical. I'm not trying to flame you like CarbonB probably would, I'm just telling it like it is, not as a Disney cartoon would like it to be.

I remember this one study I saw in a Social Psychology textbook in which they had a pretty large group of college students(over 100, half women) take an extensive personality test. They also had a separate group evaluate a picture of each person that took the personality test, and rate their physical attractiveness on a 1-5 scale. With multiple people rating each person, the ratings were very likely to be consistent.

They then had each of these college students, who hadn't known their physical attractiveness had been rated, only their personality, go on dates with another person who had taken the test. After the date, each person was asked if they would like to go on another date with the person they just had a date with.

No matter what factors "lined up" in regards to the random personality test that came into play, the only reliable indicator for if someone would want to go on another date was if the person they just went on a date with was physically attractive. This applied to both men and women. In other words, to neither sex did it matter if they happened to be paired up in regards to shyness, intelligence, sense of humor, etc. The only thing that mattered to either sex was if the date was hot looking.

What can I say, I actually have evidence for my assertion that if his self-assessment is correct he probably doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.


Well we are still animals afterall, you dont see female lions going and snuggling up with the weak small male lion do you ? No because he cant offer protection and such.

Its not anyones fault they dont want to be with an ugly person, its just the facts of life.

Well we are still animals afterall, you dont see female lions going and snuggling up with the weak small male lion do you ? No because he cant offer protection and such.

Its not anyones fault they dont want to be with an ugly person, its just the facts of life.

You see, now I am starting to get annoyed. No where in my entire fucking post did I say it is anyone's fault. I didn't make a value judgment anywhere. I never even said it was wrong for someone to be extremely shallow.

What I did say is that if the OP is genuinely ugly, the likelihood that a beautiful woman will want to date him after seeing him in person isn't very good. You're right, and so am I, it's just the facts of life. I wouldn't expect a beautiful woman to date an ugly guy, and I'm sure the OP doesn't want to date an ugly woman. It all works out in a nice reciprocal way, except the ugly people have to learn to deal with shallowness better lest they be found between a rock and a hard place.

^ Burnnnnnnnnnnnn.

You see, now I am starting to get annoyed. No where in my entire fucking post did I say it is anyone's fault. I didn't make a value judgment anywhere. I never even said it was wrong for someone to be extremely shallow.

What I did say is that if the OP is genuinely ugly, the likelihood that a beautiful woman will want to date him after seeing him in person isn't very good. You're right, and so am I, it's just the facts of life. I wouldn't expect a beautiful woman to date an ugly guy, and I'm sure the OP doesn't want to date an ugly woman. It all works out in a nice reciprocal way, except the ugly people have to learn to deal with shallowness better lest they be found between a rock and a hard place.

Get over yourself fuckwit, what i said was directed at the op, but i used what you said as referance and to back up my point.

Touchy touchy.

hey op, post a picture of yourself, you're probably not that bad

Well we are still animals afterall, you dont see female lions going and snuggling up with the weak small male lion do you ? No because he cant offer protection and such.

You can still offer protection if you're ugly but well built.

Pics of your disfigured ass or GTFO

saving space

That's assuming the OP's self-assessment is correct, the girl herself is attractive, and the test was accurate (exactly what do you mean by 'matching personalities', as far as I'm aware personality tests are hardly conclusive to a genuine apprasial of a person's wants and capabilities.)

Besides, all rationalities aside, I'm trying to encorouge this man to try while you're tearing him down. I think your logic is solid, but you miss the point. This isn't about science, this is about a man's life.

lol.

Caine.

"You got to love your self before you can love others."

I saw the love guru last night.

Need pix for clarification

Need pix for clarification

No doubt. Agreed.

A friend of mine was in a similair situation as you a while ago; and when he finally met up with the girl, she was like..
'oh.. erm..'


:(
*pretends to read text message*
'I've got to go, family emergency'.

He is one ugly mother fucker.
:D