When I pulled up the website today, it came apparent that undrug.org is no longer paying their bill to the domain company.

I needed to search their vendor database for reviews of drug related websites (browsing would also be nice ;)). Is there any website similar to undrug.org's vendor database where I can see reviews and discussions of these website's reputations? Any alternative?

And the website I was mainly looking up was weedfarmer.com, don't worry they don't carry anything RC's or anything incriminating, just Dutch seeds. They say they accept American dollars, but it must be cashed and they'll ship the seeds once they get it. Has anyone ordered for them? Does anyone know of any good websites for ordering seeds to the U.S.?

Where the hell have you been? Undrug has been gone for quite some time now. Try undrugged instead you can check reviews with out being a member, I don't use it though just because the word is that it's ran by rats but who knows...

This and the website they posted about DOC and some also other source, look in eastern europe ;)

yeah i wondered where undrug went too. It was too popular at the end of its days though and too much spam/scammers and bogus comments but when it first went up and got some attention it was a must for anyone who deals with op's.

shame it went down

The Alternative is me. I have expeirence with most of the company either it be website or emails. Just shoot me an email with a question and I shall answer,

lol no ones stupid enough to do that h0ppinsourcestealin'rider

id hope not

i verified sources for about an hour one night and it got outta hand

You must not read many of my threads. From any online source either it be a pharmcy, pure oxycodone, Heroin, MDMA, LSD, K, basicly every source I have either contacted or used or had one of my friends use. My bookmarks and address books would make the majority of BLTC shit their pants if they saw it.

You must not read many of my threads. From any online source either it be a pharmcy, pure oxycodone, Heroin, MDMA, LSD, K, basicly every source I have either contacted or used or had one of my friends use. My bookmarks and address books would make the majority of BLTC shit their pants if they saw it.

Yeah this is solid fucking evidence that you're legit.

You must not read many of my threads. From any online source either it be a pharmcy, pure oxycodone, Heroin, MDMA, LSD, K, basicly every source I have either contacted or used or had one of my friends use. My bookmarks and address books would make the majority of BLTC shit their pants if they saw it.

I bet the feds will shit their pants too when they come get your computer. Book marking sources is smart.

I just wanna say DONT use undrugged. It's run by a bunch of scammers.

You must not read many of my threads. From any online source either it be a pharmcy, pure oxycodone, Heroin, MDMA, LSD, K, basicly every source I have either contacted or used or had one of my friends use. My bookmarks and address books would make the majority of BLTC shit their pants if they saw it.

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All you crackheads are worthless. I have plenty of sources, especially after DOC made that retarded website/forum of his a while back. But I have no way to verify them!!! :(

I just want to order some MJ seeds from Amsterdam to the US. Has anyone tried this and what company did they use?

This guys is a known scammer on the most reliable online source review site there is, just to let ya all know. He scammed a bunch of people claiming he could sell oxy, xanax, soma, and a few other things. Fucking Scum, karmas a bitch, you will learn.

I tried to say the same thing in this thread Incubustis and Meta edited my post and said don't say stuff I cant prove, so I deleted my post instead of arguing. And here it is again... another person thats heard it. Stupid noob has even heard it too.

^meta lets h0ppin do this in threads because the two are buttbuddies in irc.

Op your looking for a legit seed source? come on dude dont be lazy and just read reviews on growing forums, its all there. Places like Nirvana are pretty quick but their genetics are some of the weakest avaliable (strain for strain). That doesnt mean you shouldnt get 20 beans from them of same strain and select 2-3 best plants for mothers. swim did that with nirvana big bud and his turned out better than the BB he tried in amsterdam!

you gotta know where to look.

DO NOT post or even check legitimate sources (or any sources..) on undrugged. if you do, you are fucking retarded, and you are contributing to the deterioration of this whole system.

whatever, are there still invitation-only source discussion places around?

Indeed.

if you know how to find em ;)

chances are, if you have to ask, you don't :(

yeah just ask h0ppin

hahahaha

yeah, h0ppin is the man for sources. he's got it alllll figured out.

/sarcasm

No, h0ppin actually is a source! He has good drugs, cheap prices, fast shipping! Just email him, he'll help you out g00d! Lulz.

Yes, but most people from totse wouldn't be lucky enough to get invited to such places

I just want to order some MJ seeds from Amsterdam to the US. Has anyone tried this and what company did they use?

Well if this is all you want to do, it should be easy as shit. There are plenty of seed banks/vendors out there.

Cozy, this is cake compared to ordering RCs. Hop on a grow forum and see what seed banks are reputable.

The only issue is having them shipped to the grow locale, which you may or may not want to do, depending on how paranoid you are.

pharmacy rater is OK, most of the sources are old and defunct, but ever since undrug tanked it's about the only thing I'm aware of.

Best way to get sources is to post intelligently, banter wittily, and ask politely.

Best way to get sources is to post intelligently, banter wittily, and ask politely.

nope. definitely not the best way.

it's a good way to get scammed though.

e: or flamed or banned.

asking for sources, no matter how politely, is a BIG no-no, as is giving them away, no matter how legit the person may seem.

^^Ok, Mr. No-No. Come back in 5 years singing the same tune.

....? mr no-no?

dude, i'm saying that asking on totse, no matter how intelligently you post, wittily you banter, nicely you ask, or long you suck a cock, you're not going to get any good sources. because the people with all the good sources know that giving them out to people that aren't trusted 100%, especially to people on totse/forums/the internet, is very against the rules of the game. and breaking the rules fucks up the community and can carry hefty consequences.

and the people that DO give out sources are going to be people like h0ppin, out to fuck you over and waste your time.

you are definitely right mr.shans. i get sick of e-mails from these idiots on totse asking me for sources. people that do that get a nice big fuck you from me. i like your attitude bro, you should post more often.

yeah man, a lot of these people don't understand, the less people that know the better, and all these people that think they're cool by flaunting their sources around are just poking more holes in our already leaky community.

feel free to hit me up on aim, make sure you have pidgin + OTR plugin if you want to talk about anything..questionable...but it's always cool meeting new people to share ideas, experiences, etc.

true that.

i don't mess around with instant messaging but if you ever wanna shoot me an e-mail just click the dot beside my name and send me one. hope to hear from ya sometime.

stay safe bud

okay anyone want to explain to me why the thread h0ppin started about needing "fresh meat" in IRC (to scam of course) got deleted, after 3+ people verified that h0ppin scammed multiple people?

i mean, it wasn't even locked. it just straight up disappeared.

and if this has anything to do with meta wanting us to "keep it to emails," that is ridiculous, because the people of totse, especially those desperate enough for sources to ask people like h0ppin, have the right to know that this douchebag is a scammer, and is out to get their money and their sources.

so, meta, the reason we can't provide copypasta proof is because i don't think it would be cool to email, let alone post, this thread on the internet, because it contains sensitive information that could put something very important at risk, and this pathetic fuck, and even the people he scammed/will scam in the future, isn't worth risking more leaks in our boat.

so hopefully someone will see this before they decide to email h0ppin to try to get some of that "super bomb, 100% pure, any drug you want" and before this post gets magically edited or deleted.

even if this post only helps one person avoid getting scammed by h0ppin, mission accomplished.

That's pretty fucked up. Well, I sure as fuck won't be silenced about the matter, no matter how many threads get deleted. The motherfucker is a scammer. Fuck, if need be, I will make a thread on it in Lab Tips and put a link in my fucking sig.

okay anyone want to explain to me why the thread h0ppin started about needing "fresh meat" in IRC (to scam of course) got deleted, after 3+ people verified that h0ppin scammed multiple people?

i mean, it wasn't even locked. it just straight up disappeared.
Funny how it works out like that, huh? I mean, why delete a thread if there is nothing to hide, hoppin? meta? Fuckin joke.

Previously Posted on another SourceSite


Just to let everyone know, I recently acquired a piece of communication between kwstag and Hoppin

"Hey man i miss you. Case is going alright I guess, Im going to be working with the cops in less than a week. Kind of nerve wrecking bro Im risking my life basically so I dont do 9 years of hell prison. I dont want 9 years, fuck that, so im going to bust my ass finding locals."

Sounds like a trustworthy guy.

His name has been shamed on many sites, if your to stupid to read the clues then you deserve h0ppin's great services.

I refuse to let this little subject drop down to the depths, and I will make it a point to tell every single fucking person I can, whether these threads keep getting deleted or not.


Dude, meta, you know I like you, despite our differences in the past, but this is just fucked up, and like I said man, I don't give a fuck, I will make a thread in LT and whore the link in my sig if need be. Many of the people on this site are my FRIENDS, and I will be god damned if I let some fucking cocksucker scam them, or god forbid, snitch on them. I was told by you and several others to voice my opinion and not hold back, well, this is me not holding back.


You delete all the threads you want, it only makes me lose more respect for you, and only pisses me off even more giving me even more drive to NOT let this fucking shit drop.


If you want me silenced, you will have to get me demodded, and my user deleted, and I don't see that happening, so, ya might as well just face the fucking music.

/me shits pants.

jesus christ...what a snitching little rat fuck.

this little kid deserves more than 9 years, he deserves to be 6 feet fucking under.

i think we need to find out who he's planning on snitching on, and let them know. i have a feeling that these guys will put this little rat where he REALLY belongs ^^^

i'm with you SN. i was a bit wary to start picking a fight here with some higher-ups, seeing as i'm such an insignificant pissant on this site, but honestly i don't care if i get banned or silenced for this shit. the word needs to get OUT that this kid has scammed people in the past, and WILL do it again.

these little fucks don't realize that while their mommy and daddy pay for all their shit, us normal people work HARD for our money, whether by slaving away every day, or avoiding johnny law, we work our asses off for it.

and something this little punk doesn't seem to realize is that while we work hard, in this game, we play even harder.

snitching is a serious offense in this world, even more serious than scamming or jacking people.

i have a feeling that if we get the word out this little bitch is a rat, his "buddies" locally will take care of that part, especially when they see that hes trading his 9 years for their 20, 30, even life, depending on who he knows.

keep this in mind, h0ppin, h0ppy, whatever the fuck your name is:

snitches get stitches, and wind up in ditches

this little kid deserves more than 9 years, he deserves to be 6 feet fucking under.

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This conversation isnt Greg speaking in the first person, its one of his friends he deals with in real life.

The point of posting is if your friend was in the same situation wouldnt you be in channels like #sources too?

ohh i see, so that's kwstag talking to h0ppin, correct?

well, all my statements still stand. that rat deserves to be 6 feet under.

and fuck no i wouldn't be "in channels like #sources" too. why would you even say that?

i would tell my friend "that sucks that you fucked up and got caught dude, but you're a rat piece of shit for working with the cops, and theres no fucking way im going to help you find people to bust"

even if the dealer is a piece of shit, i do NOT agree with helping the pigs under ANY circumstances. get your own fucking revenge, be creative. do you own time, don't make someone else do it for you.

people like this are tools being thrown into the fire pit to fuel this war on drugs, the very war that we the users (and abusers) need to work together to end.

these little fucks only care about themselves, and just don't want to own up to their own mistakes, and do their own fucking time. they don't care or realize that they are simply pawns in the cops' fucked up game, being used to further invade our privacy, steal our liberties, and take our freedom.

Correct it is.

And I said it as an insinuation.

Take it how you will im simply the messenger.

right, thanks for that man.

e: and just for clarification, i wasn't bitching at you or anything. i just wanted to make it abundantly clear that my priorities and beliefs in life are COMPLETELY different than either of those little fucks' twisted views on this world.

No worries my man.

Did I seriously just waste my 5 minutes reading this?

Not to be a jerk, but as somebody who had never been to jail, I have to ask you.......have you ever actually been to jail?? If so, did you hold back sources that could have gotten you less of a jail sentence?? if you have in fact been to jail (very possible) and yet you didn't have to make the hard choice of deciding wether to succumb to pressure, family pressure, guilt, concience.......all the things that would make a regular (non-sociopath) person give up their hook-ups , then I can say with relative ease, go and fuck off, stop posting little self righteous posts.

long story short. Unless you've been held up to a flame with all of your liberties that you speak of, being compromised, then you aren't helping anybody.

For the record I've never been in jail, never even gotten a speeding ticket (even though I take the bus :P )

my last post was semi-useless.....I'm really drunk and pathetic right now, yet I somehow can't resist the urge, I do not like you. You are a little hot headed freak.

People scam people/rip people off/fraud others for MONEYYYYYY. nothing else, no matter how much you think you are different, we are all the same. all it takes is for somebody to be desperate enough.

Trust me, I've been there.......I wish Meta would take away you're acct sometimes.

Yikes.

Booze is one hell of a drug

I refuse to let this little subject drop down to the depths, and I will make it a point to tell every single fucking person I can, whether these threads keep getting deleted or not.


Dude, meta, you know I like you, despite our differences in the past, but this is just fucked up, and like I said man, I don't give a fuck, I will make a thread in LT and whore the link in my sig if need be. Many of the people on this site are my FRIENDS, and I will be god damned if I let some fucking cocksucker scam them, or god forbid, snitch on them. I was told by you and several others to voice my opinion and not hold back, well, this is me not holding back.


You delete all the threads you want, it only makes me lose more respect for you, and only pisses me off even more giving me even more drive to NOT let this fucking shit drop.


If you want me silenced, you will have to get me demodded, and my user deleted, and I don't see that happening, so, ya might as well just face the fucking music.

Not to be a jerk, but as somebody who had never been to jail, I have to ask you.......have you ever actually been to jail?? If so, did you hold back sources that could have gotten you less of a jail sentence?? if you have in fact been to jail (very possible) and yet you didn't have to make the hard choice of deciding wether to succumb to pressure, family pressure, guilt, concience.......all the things that would make a regular (non-sociopath) person give up their hook-ups , then I can say with relative ease, go and fuck off, stop posting little self righteous posts.

long story short. Unless you've been held up to a flame with all of your liberties that you speak of, being compromised, then you aren't helping anybody.

For the record I've never been in jail, never even gotten a speeding ticket (even though I take the bus :P )

Your comparison, which is the base of your argument, has no relevance to online drug dealing, at all.

Get ready for a flame-rape.

edit: oh, he's drunk and obviously not thinking about what he is saying.
The only thing you succeeded in doing was making yourself look like a fucking idiot in front of everyone, nice work.

Me? Yes, I have been to jail, and yes, I have SHUT MY FUCKING MOUTH. It's not that hard, and snitching doesn't do a god damn thing for you anyway, unless you happen to know someone importing kilos of cocaine, they don't give a fuck, and you won't get even a modicum of help or relief from snitching.


I don't give a fuck what your little dumbass bus riding 16 year old fucking ass thinks of me. You will think differently one day when you aren't living with your mommy and daddy, and you have to work for your fucking money.


And who cares WHY people scam? Of course it's for money you fucking dipshit, that doesn't make it right, or ok, and how fucking dare you defend such acts, you fucking worthless fuck.


It's ok to ruin someone elses life just because YOU fucked up and got caught? Where the fuck is the logic in that?


Heres a hint you little motherfucker, watch what the fuck you say to me. I could fucking tear you to pieces with my intellect alone, and for you to even think that the things you've said have any value or worth at all is fucking laughable. Next time think before you post, and don't post drunk, maybe then you won't look like such a faggot fucking narc piece of shit. Get the fuck out.

Yeah thats pretty much a flame-rape.

dumbass bus riding 16 year old

I lol'ed

i'm not even going to attempt to respond to that kidiot, narc piece of shit, because SN pretty much said all that needs to be said, and, frankly, he's not worth my time, especially considering he has NO CLUE what the fuck he's talking about.

e: one thing i'd like to add is that i know, unlike you, you rat, snitching, lowlife, kidiot piece of shit, under "all that pressure" i would very easily tell the pigs to go fuck themselves.

because i believe so strongly that the war they are fighting, this war on drugs, is FUCKED up, wasting BILLIONS of our dollars, not to mention fucking the country over in 1000 other ways we don't even need to get in to. and i refuse to fuel this fire in even the tiniest way, no matter how much it would help me.

i'm not being self-righteous, i could not care less what people on totse think of me, good or bad. i am stating this because hopefully someone will read this thread, and then when they are in a position similar to kwstag's, they will maybe, just maybe, stop and think about allll the shit they are fucking up, the fucked up war they are fueling, across the country, just to save their own asses.

if this post is edited, you have some serious cover up shit to look at...


first and foremost, whatever happened to the social peice of buying drugs? you know the person to person shit that the majority of people on this planet do....

however, i understand things are a hard knock. but outside of pharms, seeds, and RC's, what else do you want from the internet? the sketch factor involved is high regardless....


but, what is a scam? some people pay X for said substance. did you agree upon that before making the transaction? sure some people geniunely got scammed and ripped off, but most of the people are idiots in the first place..


which brings me back here. your kinda asking to get scammed for buying your conventional drugs of somewhere like totse [if a member is in question]. who the fuck do you think we are, or the place we are, or the kind of people totse attracts? we'll never give you the shirt off your back, but we'll shoot you down for yours. seriously, get the fuck out in the world. so what your city has shitty drugs, go somewhere else for fucks sake, or find the people with the good drugs. stop looking for excuses for your own idiocy.

yeah, if people buy shit from other members on totse, especially people like h0ppin, they are retarded, and it's debateable whether or not they "deserve" to get scammed.

this has nothing to do with that. the people h0ppin scammed that we are referring to were NOT from totse. these people were not "idiots," they took a plunge on a new source and got fucked. and he got kicked out, and now he's looking for more people on totse to scam, and possibly to bust for his friend.

that's fucked up, and im trying to get the warning out there, to not trust this fuck, because he's been posting all over the place saying "yeahh i know ALL the sources, hit me up if you need anything", all this bullshit, and it's ridiculous, and i don't want to contribute to this little kidiot fuck getting any more undeserved money from hard working people.

Quoted because this is awesome enough to be in this thread twice.

Quoted because this is awesome enough to be in this thread twice.

it seriously was one of the best flames i've seen in a long time

I almost bought something from a totse member, but that was a while ago, and I only ended up sending the dude an ipod that i stole, however he claimed to have never gotten it, so i learned my lesson right there and will never do that again.

and SN what is wrong with riding the bus, the less i got to drive and the more i can tag on something, the better