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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2008-06-19, 01:13
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Default KNO3 shock sensitivity

So I recently acquired some Grant's Stump Remover. Alas, the contents came in little pellets so I need some way of converting them to powder. As far as I know, without getting into ugly reactions there are two ways:
1) Dissolve in water, boil/evaporate off water
2) Crush

My question is how shock/pressure sensitive is potassium nitrate? For instance, is it safe to gently crush *one* pellet with a hammer to get a bit of powder? I just want a small amount to test, and I don't want to have to wait for a lot of water to evaporate...
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Old 2008-06-19, 01:27
TheAlmightyVineMan TheAlmightyVineMan is offline
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It's about as sensitive as a clod of dirt.
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Old 2008-06-19, 02:16
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Unless you have it mixed with aluminum and sulfur, you could crush it with a hammer and not have a problem.
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Old 2008-06-19, 02:39
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Personally, I wouldn't go near the shit, people have been known to lose hands just by looking at it!


Seriously, what the fuck are you doing making things without knowing the mechanics by which they operate?
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Old 2008-06-19, 02:59
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this thread has the bombshock seal of approval!

lol it's about as sensitive as a wet piece of paper srsly... learn some periodic trends!

edit: you seem to be somewhat intelligent... so I'm somewhat disappointed by your lack of UTFSE.
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Old 2008-06-19, 03:40
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I didn't think it was shock sensitive, and the web seemed to confirm this with a lack of articles that mention potassium nitrate being shock sensitive. However, I had read something about it decomposing somewhere, and I figured that it would be much better to ask y'all before going and smashing it with a hammer. Sorry for the newb question, and thanks for not flaming me too badly (yet).
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Old 2008-06-19, 03:54
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Seriously, what the fuck are you doing making things without knowing the mechanics by which they operate?
I know it is used to oxidize a fuel like aluminum or charcoal, I just wasn't sure whether it could rapidly decompose by itself. If it makes you feel any less worried about my neighbors, I'm not gonna be doing anything stupid like making pipe bombs. I'll most likely only do KNO3 + sugar, although sometime in the future I might make a tiny bit of black powder, and perhaps even some flash, which I'll put it in a metal container so if it blows up by accident it won't be able to hurt anyone, and I'll store it next to a van de graaf generator so if anyone tries to steal it they'll get shocked!!!!111

But seriously, if I err it will be on the side of caution.
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Old 2008-06-19, 04:01
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But seriously, if I err it will be on the side of caution.
Good. Yeah, KNO3 is fine.
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Old 2008-06-19, 09:16
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The only thing I'd think of reccomending would be a dust mask, if you're grinding up a big amount (which is just fine).

KNO3 is about as dangerous as that huge dog I saw yesterday, taking a nap in the doorway to a cafe.
aid dog was about as dangerous as a rolled up carpet: he collected dust and you could trip over him.
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Old 2008-06-19, 12:27
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erm... it tastes like shit... so... yeah...
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Old 2008-06-22, 15:32
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erm... it tastes like shit... so... yeah...


Try fapping. You'll have a hard (soft ;)) time.
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Old 2008-06-23, 03:49
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Is it bad that I've wanted to try that?
I don't think the effects last long, but still;
You never know when an "opportunity" could come up (or not!)
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Old 2008-06-23, 04:11
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omg at MY age? how embarrassing I'm pretty sure it doesn't last long and its about as toxic as table salt, I WOULD advise against it though if you are taking any kind of medication....
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Old 2008-06-23, 20:24
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Originally Posted by hydroponichronic
Unless you have it mixed with aluminum and sulfur, you could crush it with a hammer and not have a problem.


Nah even that would be fine (assuming you didn't hammer on a metal surface!). It's when you get the chlorates and sulfur together. That causes "issues"
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Old 2008-06-23, 20:25
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Try fapping. You'll have a hard (soft ;)) time.

*not true, actually. KNO3 is not, in fact, the anti-viagra.
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Old 2008-06-24, 03:15
diffview4290 diffview4290 is offline
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I Declare A Thread Hijack!!
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Old 2008-06-29, 15:21
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*not true, actually. KNO3 is not, in fact, the anti-viagra.

Still, someone should test it. I'M LOOKIN' AT YOU, TZAR ;)
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Old 2008-06-30, 00:23
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*not true, actually. KNO3 is not, in fact, the anti-viagra.

Yeah.
"Boner poison" my ass.
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Old 2008-07-02, 01:29
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I swear someone actually did try it one time. It may have been smokeymcpot.... Anyone else remember this? He said it tasted weird but other than that I don't remember what (if anything) happened. However, some other mildly amusing alternative uses of pyro chemicals have included:
*vineman accidentally nitrating the family dog
*death snuggle accidentally eating AP thinking it was his meth
*someone (can't remember who!) jacking off with NG
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Old 2008-07-02, 10:20
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one day ima season a high quality steak heavily with kno3
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Old 2008-07-03, 10:52
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Default Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity

Sausage, mincemeat and ready-made chilly often already contain a significant amount of KNO3 ... it *is* a food safe meat preservative after all
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Old 2008-07-05, 07:22
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Apparently they used to use it in prisons so the inmates couldn't rape each other...
Don't know if its true but i agree on the someone trying it thing.
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Old 2008-07-05, 07:44
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KNO3 is used as an Oxidizer in 'Black Powder' and is effectively a Salt. If the Potassium Nitrate is not in a BP mixture than it is not sensitive to shock.
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Old 2008-07-17, 22:15
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...perhaps even some flash, which I'll put it in a metal container so if it blows up by accident it won't be able to hurt anyone...

Bad idea. Never store energetic materials in glass or metal containers. If it goes off, it will create much deadly shrapnel.

Individual fuels or oxidizers are fine though.
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Old 2008-07-20, 11:43
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Bad idea. Never store energetic materials in glass or metal containers. If it goes off, it will create much deadly shrapnel.

Individual fuels or oxidizers are fine though.

You. Mad Get on IRC on Sundays or email me or something.
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Old 2008-07-21, 10:36
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Bad idea. Never store energetic materials in glass or metal containers. If it goes off, it will create much deadly shrapnel.

That was sarcasm, along with the van de graff generator thing :D
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