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| Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum. |
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2008-06-19, 01:13
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KNO3 shock sensitivity
So I recently acquired some Grant's Stump Remover. Alas, the contents came in little pellets so I need some way of converting them to powder. As far as I know, without getting into ugly reactions there are two ways:
1) Dissolve in water, boil/evaporate off water
2) Crush
My question is how shock/pressure sensitive is potassium nitrate? For instance, is it safe to gently crush *one* pellet with a hammer to get a bit of powder? I just want a small amount to test, and I don't want to have to wait for a lot of water to evaporate...
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# 2

2008-06-19, 01:27
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
It's about as sensitive as a clod of dirt.
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# 3

2008-06-19, 02:16
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Unless you have it mixed with aluminum and sulfur, you could crush it with a hammer and not have a problem.
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# 4

2008-06-19, 02:39
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Personally, I wouldn't go near the shit, people have been known to lose hands just by looking at it!
Seriously, what the fuck are you doing making things without knowing the mechanics by which they operate? 
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# 5

2008-06-19, 02:59
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Ignore my posts before 1-14-08
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
this thread has the bombshock seal of approval!
lol it's about as sensitive as a wet piece of paper srsly... learn some periodic trends!
edit: you seem to be somewhat intelligent... so I'm somewhat disappointed by your lack of UTFSE.
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2008-06-19, 03:40
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
I didn't think it was shock sensitive, and the web seemed to confirm this with a lack of articles that mention potassium nitrate being shock sensitive. However, I had read something about it decomposing somewhere, and I figured that it would be much better to ask y'all before going and smashing it with a hammer. Sorry for the newb question, and thanks for not flaming me too badly (yet).
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# 7

2008-06-19, 03:54
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Quote:
Originally Posted by jesus_is_my_homeboy69
Seriously, what the fuck are you doing making things without knowing the mechanics by which they operate? 
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I know it is used to oxidize a fuel like aluminum or charcoal, I just wasn't sure whether it could rapidly decompose by itself. If it makes you feel any less worried about my neighbors, I'm not gonna be doing anything stupid like making pipe bombs. I'll most likely only do KNO3 + sugar, although sometime in the future I might make a tiny bit of black powder, and perhaps even some flash, which I'll put it in a metal container so if it blows up by accident it won't be able to hurt anyone, and I'll store it next to a van de graaf generator so if anyone tries to steal it they'll get shocked!!!!111
But seriously, if I err it will be on the side of caution.
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2008-06-19, 04:01
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Quote:
Originally Posted by xarf
But seriously, if I err it will be on the side of caution.
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Good. Yeah, KNO3 is fine.
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# 9

2008-06-19, 09:16
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
The only thing I'd think of reccomending would be a dust mask, if you're grinding up a big amount (which is just fine).
KNO3 is about as dangerous as that huge dog I saw yesterday, taking a nap in the doorway to a cafe.
aid dog was about as dangerous as a rolled up carpet: he collected dust and you could trip over him.
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2008-06-19, 12:27
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Ignore my posts before 1-14-08
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
erm... it tastes like shit... so... yeah...
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#11
 2008-06-22, 15:32
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nuclearrabbit 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
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Originally Posted by diffview4290
erm... it tastes like shit... so... yeah...
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Try fapping. You'll have a hard (soft ;)) time.
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#12
 2008-06-23, 03:49
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ungodly 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Is it bad that I've wanted to try that?
I don't think the effects last long, but still;
You never know when an "opportunity" could come up (or not!)
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#13
 2008-06-23, 04:11
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diffview4290 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
omg at MY age? how embarrassing I'm pretty sure it doesn't last long and its about as toxic as table salt, I WOULD advise against it though if you are taking any kind of medication....
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#14
 2008-06-23, 20:24
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Sentinel owl 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
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Originally Posted by hydroponichronic
Unless you have it mixed with aluminum and sulfur, you could crush it with a hammer and not have a problem.
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Nah even that would be fine (assuming you didn't hammer on a metal surface!). It's when you get the chlorates and sulfur together. That causes "issues"
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#15
 2008-06-23, 20:25
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Sentinel owl 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Try fapping. You'll have a hard (soft ;)) time.
*not true, actually. KNO3 is not, in fact, the anti-viagra.
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#16
 2008-06-24, 03:15
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diffview4290 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
I Declare A Thread Hijack!!
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#17
 2008-06-29, 15:21
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nuclearrabbit 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
*not true, actually. KNO3 is not, in fact, the anti-viagra.
Still, someone should test it. I'M LOOKIN' AT YOU, TZAR ;)
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#18
 2008-06-30, 00:23
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
*not true, actually. KNO3 is not, in fact, the anti-viagra.
Yeah.
"Boner poison" my ass.
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#19
 2008-07-02, 01:29
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Sentinel owl 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
I swear someone actually did try it one time. It may have been smokeymcpot.... Anyone else remember this? He said it tasted weird but other than that I don't remember what (if anything) happened. However, some other mildly amusing alternative uses of pyro chemicals have included:
*vineman accidentally nitrating the family dog
*death snuggle accidentally eating AP thinking it was his meth
*someone (can't remember who!) jacking off with NG
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#20
 2008-07-02, 10:20
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Chainhit 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
one day ima season a high quality steak heavily with kno3
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#21
 2008-07-03, 10:52
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I live in Heresy
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Sausage, mincemeat and ready-made chilly often already contain a significant amount of KNO3 ... it *is* a food safe meat preservative after all
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#22
 2008-07-05, 07:22
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Apparently they used to use it in prisons so the inmates couldn't rape each other...
Don't know if its true but i agree on the someone trying it thing.
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#23
 2008-07-05, 07:44
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
KNO3 is used as an Oxidizer in 'Black Powder' and is effectively a Salt. If the Potassium Nitrate is not in a BP mixture than it is not sensitive to shock.
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#24
 2008-07-17, 22:15
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Spatula Tzar 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
...perhaps even some flash, which I'll put it in a metal container so if it blows up by accident it won't be able to hurt anyone...
Bad idea. Never store energetic materials in glass or metal containers. If it goes off, it will create much deadly shrapnel.
Individual fuels or oxidizers are fine though.
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#25
 2008-07-20, 11:43
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nuclearrabbit 
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Bad idea. Never store energetic materials in glass or metal containers. If it goes off, it will create much deadly shrapnel.
Individual fuels or oxidizers are fine though.
You.  Get on IRC on Sundays or email me or something.
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#26
 2008-07-21, 10:36
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Re: KNO3 shock sensitivity
Bad idea. Never store energetic materials in glass or metal containers. If it goes off, it will create much deadly shrapnel.
That was sarcasm, along with the van de graff generator thing :D
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