whats your favorite kratom strain and why? mine would have to be bali because i've only tried bali and thai...but whats the malaysian like?? i hear its like a mix between bali and thai, both stimulating and sedating, is it any good? also does the indo feel basically like bali just a little stronger or what?

Malaysian is cheaper and weaker. I just ordered 4 ounces of whole leaf. I guess they didnt have it or they messed up so they sent me 8 ounces of bali thai mix and4 of bali. I WAS SO HAPPY. i think I will brew some up.

the malaysian is weaker and cheaper? i was under the impression that bali is the "weakest" stuff you can get and everywhere i go malaysian is always more expensive than the bali. is the malaysian anything like bali? is it stimulating or sedating?

the malaysian is weaker and cheaper? i was under the impression that bali is the "weakest" stuff you can get and everywhere i go malaysian is always more expensive than the bali. is the malaysian anything like bali? is it stimulating or sedating?
my source it is 25$/4 ounces. Bali is 50$/4 ounces. Thai is 55$/4 ounces. I havnt actually done it but for the thai and bali they have an alkaloid content, but the malay they dont give an alkaloid content so from the price and that ive concluded it is cheaper and therefore weaker. Also, I never get more stimulated from the thai. I get stimulated from the bali and as I dose more it starts to get more opiate like. Same with the thai.

can someone tell me the effects of different kratoms like indo, malaysian, super green malaysian,etc.?

Bali is indeed most sedating as is Indo, Indo however is in a sense a ‘cleaner’ aroma and less likely to cause nausea whereas Bali may.

Malaysian is a nice in between mix. In many ways, it resembles both Bali and Thai, equally stimulating as is sedating.

Thai is most stimulating and would have to be my favorite. Malaysian would have to be a close second. But when it comes down to it I like all kratom, assuming it’s quality material.

And all kratom, regardless the strain, possess both stimulating and sedating properties at the right dosage.

.peace.

And all kratom, regardless the strain, possess both stimulating and sedating properties at the right dosage.

.peace.

that is what i have noticed. usually after I drink a cups worth i wil start to get a stimulating euphoria and a cuple more cups I sleep good that night.

Bali is indeed most sedating as is Indo, Indo however is in a sense a ‘cleaner’ aroma and less likely to cause nausea whereas Bali may.

Malaysian is a nice in between mix. In many ways, it resembles both Bali and Thai, equally stimulating as is sedating.

Thai is most sedating and would have to be my favorite. Malaysian would have to be a close second. But when it comes down to it I like all kratom, assuming it’s quality material.

And all kratom, regardless the strain, possess both stimulating and sedating properties at the right dosage.

.peace.

you just contradicted yourself there, you said bali is the most sedating then you went on to say the thai was....is malaysian anything like thai, because i've had thai 3 times and it sucked everytime but i think it had to do more with quality. so basically all types of kratom produce sedating effects at high doses?

^^^

It's a called a grammatical error, my fault, see edit.

so basically all types of kratom produce sedating effects at high doses?

Pretty much, and low doses will provide a nice uplifting / energetic effect.

...after I drink a cups worth i wil start to get a stimulating euphoria and a cuple more cups I sleep good that night.

Oddly I can never sleep on kratom, even if it's the most stimulating kratom. -If anything kratom if abused will cause irregular / dysfunctional sleep patterns, for me atleast.

.peace.

what vendor do you buy kratom from? i just bought an ounce of bali from nomad, it comes tommorow and hopefully its good. have any of you tried nomads kratom?

^^^

It's a called a grammatical error, my fault, see edit.



Oddly I can never sleep on kratom, even if it's the most stimulating kratom. -If anything kratom if abused will cause irregular / dysfunctional sleep patterns, for me atleast.

.peace.Well when I take an opiate lik morphine I tend to stay up because I want to enjoy the high/buzz. the same thing seems to happen with kratom. Like last night i looked at the clock and it was 2 am before I even knew it. Went and laid down and i sept just like I would if I had taken morphine.

I noticed the bali I have is more nauseating.

@ automaticmojo: I support a few vendors and don’t necessarily have a favorite.

I had posted several of my top vendors awhile ago, if your truly interested use the search engine for ‘kratom vendors’ threads and do some looking your bound to find some of my posts.

Anyhow, yeah, Nomad has good material and is also a good guy. I acquired some Bali from him not to long ago. He’s got good prices as well, you should have opted for the 112gram for 30 something dollars.

.peace.

What's this organic bulshit? Only fuck with stuff that will send me to the moon.

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Hmm, well as they say, every body/individual reacts differently to a substance.

Frankly, comparing morphine and kratom is like comparing chicken soup and oranges, no comparison in my opinion.

And if you find Bali nauseating, as I previously posted, then you ought to give the Indo a shot. If you like the sedating side of kratom then you really ought to give a super-Indo a try, it's pricey but well worth it.

.peace.

Well when I take an opiate lik morphine I tend to stay up because I want to enjoy the high/buzz. the same thing seems to happen with kratom. Like last night i looked at the clock and it was 2 am before I even knew it. Went and laid down and i sept just like I would if I had taken morphine.

I noticed the bali I have is more nauseating.

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So what are we talking about, like a rocket ship type thing?

Seriously though, if you want an out of body experience / psychedelic experience then you shouldn't be posting in a thread pertaining to a medicinal botanical which provides pain relief to those in need.

.peace.

[I]And if you find Bali nauseating, as I previously posted, then you ought to give the Indo a shot. If you like the sedating side of kratom then you really ought to give a super-Indo a try, it's pricey but well worth it.

.peace.

is super indo really even worth it for the money? i mean i can get it for $24 an ounce from four winds botanicals but the price just sounds to high.. is it really that "super"?

^^^

I've already stated:

If you like the sedating side of kratom then you really ought to give a super-Indo a try, it's pricey but well worth it.

.peace.

^^^

I've already stated:



.peace.


yeah i realize that but i'm wondering how many times more potent you think the super indo is than the bali and/or commercial kratom.

So what are we talking about, like a rocket ship type thing?

Seriously though, if you want an out of body experience / psychedelic experience then you shouldn't be posting in a thread pertaining to a medicinal botanical which provides pain relief to those in need.

.peace.

Wow that went completely over your head.

Something that gets me so fucking high, it's to the moon; yea?..

When I last did it, I mixed Maeng Da and Green Malay. I got pretty nauseated from a fairly low dose, 10grams. Also, my eyes were super sensitive to light and I had a hammering headache. I think, like someone else mentioned earlier, it's up to the individual taking it.

yeah i agree, thats some good kratom. you really provide valuable insight. keep up the good work

Mods Please!

yeah i agree, thats some good kratom. you really provide valuable insight. keep up the good work

Why would you qoute that, you are just feeding the fire.

[I]And if you find Bali nauseating, as I previously posted, then you ought to give the Indo a shot. If you like the sedating side of kratom then you really ought to give a super-Indo a try, it's pricey but well worth it.

.peace.

i think i'm gonna buy some super indo. what website do you get it from? i was thinking about getting it from four winds botanicals but dont know if their stuff is any good.

ya the fourwinds indo is good

no i dont want their regular indo, i want their super indo. do you know if their super indo is any good?

MGB kratom was good, i got some last time

[I]
And if you find Bali nauseating, as I previously posted, then you ought to give the Indo a shot. If you like the sedating side of kratom then you really ought to give a super-Indo a try, it's pricey but well worth it.

.peace.

have you ever tried the super green malaysian? i was thinking about getting some from nomad but heard its pretty stimulating. isn't all kratom sedating at high doses though? because it's the same drug just a different strain...recommend me a good place to get super kratom.
thanks

bump... is the super green malaysian any good?

i used to order the super greeen malay all the time. is still my favorite. it is more euphoric than regular malay but still has a little bit of the sedative feel. the more you take the the more you will feel the sedative effects. it is stronger than regular malay. 3-5 g would be a good starting dose depends on your tolerance.

i can give you a great source if you leave email or msn/aol.

yeah i definately dont think 3-5 grams would be enough... it takes me 10-14 grams of bali with no tolerance...anyways yeah e-mail me at acneriddenjoe@yahoo.com

could i get a sedating feel around 8 grams? isn't all basically all kratom sedating at high doses though?

write kratom in the title of the email or something cuz i might just skip it thinking its spam, thanks