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Old 2008-06-10, 05:25
Slightly Stoopid Slightly Stoopid is offline
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Default Morphine XR vs IR

I have been getting Ms Contins XR in the past and I would take about 75-90mg. If my memory serves me right I remember reading that the morphine molecule is entrapped in a wax molecule to prevent abuse. I would chew them up regardless, if my memory serves me right this would not effect the XR since it is entrapped in the wax right?

My question is how do I gage taking these to IR how much is 30mg XR supposed to release per hour or at a time? Thanks for any help I appreciate it.
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Old 2008-06-10, 05:35
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: Morphine XR vs IR

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Originally Posted by Slightly Stoopid
I have been getting Ms Contins XR in the past and I would take about 75-90mg. If my memory serves me right I remember reading that the morphine molecule is entrapped in a wax molecule to prevent abuse. I would chew them up regardless, if my memory serves me right this would not effect the XR since it is entrapped in the wax right?

My question is how do I gage taking these to IR how much is 30mg XR supposed to release per hour or at a time? Thanks for any help I appreciate it.

It does not prevent abuse but only makes less attractive to addicts. i still abused ms contin and got high from just poping the pills whole. It only allows a certain amount per hour to bbe absorbed. But After about 3 hours I would be nice and high.

i think it is somehting like 10mgs per hour but i don't know for sure.
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Old 2008-06-10, 05:46
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Default Re: Morphine XR vs IR

Yeah that's what I meant because I was abusing them aswell ;). So I guess if I was taking 90mgs, about 45 should get me high if you are right about the 10mgs. It just won't last as long . Gonna do some more searching and see if I can't find the exact amount it releases. Thanks for your post.
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Old 2008-06-10, 05:49
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: Morphine XR vs IR

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Originally Posted by Slightly Stoopid
Yeah that's what I meant because I was abusing them aswell ;). So I guess if I was taking 90mgs, about 45 should get me high if you are right about the 10mgs. It just won't last as long . Gonna do some more searching and see if I can't find the exact amount it releases. Thanks for your post.


IR will only last like 4-6 hours. When i dosed morphine xr for the first time I only needed 30mgs with 0 tolerance to get a buzz. So be careful with that. What kind of tolerance do you have? Also the bioavailibility is pretty low it is something like 10-30% is actually absorbed. You don't actually end up with the full 45 mgs in your blood. There is something callled first pass metabolism with morpehine sulfate where something like 60-90% is destroyed by yoour liver in the first pass.(before it even can get to your brain) Now that doesn't mean you should take more , i am simply informing you that though those doses sound high alot of it is just destroyed by the liver in the first pass.
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Old 2008-06-10, 05:58
Spunn Spunn is offline
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Default Re: Morphine XR vs IR

Serious suggestion:

Plug it.
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Old 2008-06-10, 06:02
Slightly Stoopid Slightly Stoopid is offline
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Default Re: Morphine XR vs IR

In past experiences I would take 75-90mgs of Morphine XR. So how much IR would you suggest based on that?
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Old 2008-06-10, 07:09
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Default Re: Morphine XR vs IR

Dude, can you not fucking just titrate a dose and quit asking really dumb questions?
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Old 2008-06-10, 08:17
Choking Victim Choking Victim is offline
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Default Re: Morphine XR vs IR

You can suck off the coating, just like with OC, and snort the fucker.

Way better than fucking oral dosing.
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Old 2008-06-10, 09:20
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Default Re: Morphine XR vs IR

snort the fucker.

Way better than fucking oral dosing.

Morphine Bioavailability
~30% oral/rectal
15-20% insufflated
~99% IV

lol.

:D
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Old 2008-06-10, 23:50
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: Morphine XR vs IR

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You can suck off the coating, just like with OC, and snort the fucker.

Way better than fucking oral dosing.


Intranasal bioavailbility is lower than oral I believe.
 
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