I've taken 300mgs of htp today, and i'm starting to wonder if its a bad idea to take so much before a roll. A few weeks back i took about the same amount, and had been taking st.john's wort and i had a real bad time, i got overheated and it felt like my head was on fire and it pretty much ruined the whole trip.
I hadn't realized st.john's wort was a MAOI so i felt pretty stupid after that..

Is it a bad idea to load up on so much 5 htp before taking tabs? i'm wondering if it creates too much serotonin and fucks everything up.

Whats your guys take on this?

you are not supposed to just load up the day before with a huge dose. You are supposed to take the normal dose or a little bit extra everyday for like a week before.

So what am i to do now? take a half a tab?

you should have started taking the daily recommended about a week ago. then one more the day after rolling. just take the DRD until you roll.

DRD???

DRD???

Daily Recommended Dosage

Daily Recommended Dosage

Yeah but see i already took 3 times that. I just want to know if i'm going to blast my brain with too much serotonin by mixing a large dose of 5 htp before taking some X.

Yeah but see i already took 3 times that. I just want to know if i'm going to blast my brain with too much serotonin by mixing a large dose of 5 htp before taking some X.

We really couldn't tell you. 5htp has not even been proven to do what it is claimed to do. It is all basically theory.

We really couldn't tell you. 5htp has not even been proven to do what it is claimed to do. It is all basically theory.

5-htp has been proven to do what it is claimed to do. its in psychology books. it floods the brain with serotonin its the alternative to ssris.

Your body uses what it needs and the rest is excreted out unchanged. You will be fine. The reason you take it a week before is to stabalize the seritonin levels as much as possible before taking something that rapes them, (MDMA) and then the few days after is to supplement what is used in your experience, making for a more level and stable recovery the days following, and the avoidance of the so called "moody mondays"

5-htp has been proven to do what it is claimed to do. its in psychology books. it floods the brain with serotonin its the alternative to ssris.

The psychoactive action of 5-HTP is THOUGHT to derive from its effect on serotonin synthesis in central nervous system tissue. It is BELIEVED that an artificially high supply of 5-HTP causes the brain's serotonin-producing neurons to increase production. Increased serotonin production then leads to increased serotonin release.



It has been ALLEGEDvthat 5-HTP can be used to treat mental disorders such as depression. Unfortunately, the studies to date are incomplete. Reviews of these studies do indicate that potential exists for 5-HTP in the treatment of depression, but further trials are stressed as necessary before arriving at any firm conclusion.[10]
^ Altern Med Rev. 2000 Feb; 5(1), 64-71 Use of neurotransmitter precursors for treatment of depression., Meyers S.

Your body uses what it needs and the rest is excreted out unchanged. You will be fine. The reason you take it a week before is to stabalize the seritonin levels as much as possible before taking something that rapes them, (MDMA) and then the few days after is to supplement what is used in your experience, making for a more level and stable recovery the days following, and the avoidance of the so called "moody mondays"

I thought it was suicide sundays?

We really couldn't tell you. 5htp has not even been proven to do what it is claimed to do. It is all basically theory.

this coming from the guy who says you can OD from smoking weed....

this coming from the guy who says you can OD from smoking weed....

your a moron. you obviously didnt read my logic behind that. I explained it. I ment over the dose that gets you high where it become uncomfortable and unenjoyable.i never said it makes OD and die. Atleast I contributed something you piece of shit.

It may be hard to do but there is a
LD50 to marijuana. why do they have marijuana toxcity then moron?

www.medicalmarijuanainformation.com/precautions/toxicity.php
"Cannabis has a very high LD50 (about 1500 lbs smoked over 15 minutes) (49). The LD50 is the lethal dose for dose for half (50%) of the animals exposed to a drug: LD = "lethal dose". It is therefore comparatively difficult to die from an overdose of this drug.

However, cannabis should not be CONSIDERED A HARMLESS DRUG THAT HAS NO TOXCITY. It has a number of physiological effects that can be hazardous, beyond the potential of damage that smoke can cause. Most of the adverse effects are within the range tolerated for most medications (50). Most of these effects in overdose are extreme forms described in short term adverse effects.

Rare acute complications (such as panic attacks, psychosis, convulsions, etc.) that present to the Emergency Department can be managed with conservative measures (51). Signs and symptoms with smoked marihuana are an extension of the psychotomimetic and physiologic effects of THC. These effects may be more pronounced and last longer with an ORAL OVERDOSE. If disturbing symptoms occur at the prescribed dosage, the patient should be closely observed in a quiet environment and supportive measures should be used."

Though it would be hard to lethally overdose you can take more than is necessary to get high and get bad symptoms from doing so.

Edit and you are not exactly a prize:
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2129112
coming from the guy that thought you could acheive something recreational from neproxen. GtFO.

The psychoactive action of 5-HTP is THOUGHT to derive from its effect on serotonin synthesis in central nervous system tissue. It is BELIEVED that an artificially high supply of 5-HTP causes the brain's serotonin-producing neurons to increase production. Increased serotonin production then leads to increased serotonin release.



It has been ALLEGEDvthat 5-HTP can be used to treat mental disorders such as depression. Unfortunately, the studies to date are incomplete. Reviews of these studies do indicate that potential exists for 5-HTP in the treatment of depression, but further trials are stressed as necessary before arriving at any firm conclusion.[10]
^ Altern Med Rev. 2000 Feb; 5(1), 64-71 Use of neurotransmitter precursors for treatment of depression., Meyers S.



thanks for that im sorry. after looking again i see there is no direct study to show said increase in serotonin. just that it works on reduced serotonin related illnesses. many implications but no direct study.

thanks for that im sorry. after looking again i see there is no direct study to show said increase in serotonin. just that it works on reduced serotonin related illnesses. many implications but no direct study.

Like i said it basically is theory behind it and that is why they don't actually prescribe the stuff for depression and other serotonin related inlness. it only can be considered a supplement here in the US and that pretty much tells you they don't know for sure what it actually does.

it could very well do what it is thought to do though.

your a moron. you obviously didnt read my logic behind that. I explained it. I ment over the dose that gets you high where it become uncomfortable and unenjoyable.i never said it makes OD and die. Atleast I contributed something you piece of shit.

It may be hard to do but there is a
LD50 to marijuana. why do they have marijuuana toxcity then moron?

www.medicalmarijuanainformation.com/precautions/toxicity.php
"Cannabis has a very high LD50 (about 1500 lbs smoked over 15 minutes) (49). The LD50 is the lethal dose for dose for half (50%) of the animals exposed to a drug: LD = "lethal dose". It is therefore comparatively difficult to die from an overdose of this drug.

However, cannabis should not be CONSIDERED A HARMLESS DRUG THAT HAS NO TOXCITY. It has a number of physiological effects that can be hazardous, beyond the potential of damage that smoke can cause. Most of the adverse effects are within the range tolerated for most medications (50). Most of these effects in overdose are extreme forms described in short term adverse effects.

Rare acute complications (such as panic attacks, psychosis, convulsions, etc.) that present to the Emergency Department can be managed with conservative measures (51). Signs and symptoms with smoked marihuana are an extension of the psychotomimetic and physiologic effects of THC. These effects may be more pronounced and last longer with an ORAL OVERDOSE. If disturbing symptoms occur at the prescribed dosage, the patient should be closely observed in a quiet environment and supportive measures should be used."

Though it would be hard to lethally overdose you can take more than is necessary to get high and get bad symptoms from doing so.

Edit and you are not exactly a prize:
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2129112
coming from the guy that thought you could acheive something recreational from neproxen. GtFO.

you spelled marijuana wrong... seems like you threw a bunch of big words in there, show me articles where a person ACTUALLY DIED. and its impossible to smoke 1500 lbs in 15 minutes. youd pass out first.

and yeah, i found the pills, i looked for info, saw painkiller, came to totse. whats the deal anyway?

you spelled marijuana wrong...

it was clearly a typo, advilfag.

marijuuana as a mispelling of marijuana?

Holy shit you're pedantic.

Once again, advilfag.

How fucking dare you criticize a TYPO when you asked about naproxen? WTF?

you spelled marijuana wrong... seems like you threw a bunch of big words in there, show me articles where a person ACTUALLY DIED. and its impossible to smoke 1500 lbs in 15 minutes. youd pass out first.

and yeah, i found the pills, i looked for info, saw painkiller, came to totse. whats the deal anyway?

Marijuana can be spelled with an H. And I did not write that I took it from a medical marijuana site. Oh I see now at the top of my post, I dont really care if it was spelt wrong but i will fix it just for you. I am in a better mood now and I know I was a little too hostile towards you and I am sorry for that. I have quit smoking weed and doing drugs and I am a little snappy since I quit smoking weed.

it was clearly a typo, advilfag.

marijuuana as a mispelling of marijuana?

Holy shit you're pedantic.

Once again, advilfag.

How fucking dare you criticize a TYPO when you asked about naproxen? WTF?

hey, FUCK YOU!
calling me an advilfag? thats awesome dude i really want to know though, did you come up with this yourself? you are a grade A cunt.
i think its funny everyone on here makes a big deal about a guy coming on here with an unknown pill and asking info on it. main reason totse is complete shit now fucker.

Marijuana can be spelled with an H. And I did not write that I took it from a medical marijuana site. Oh I see now at the top of my post, I dont really care if it was spelt wrong but i will fix it just for you. I am in a better mood now and I know I was a little too hostile towards you and I am sorry for that. I have quit smoking weed and doing drugs and I am a little snappy since I quit smoking weed.

haha its how the old school propaganda movies/articles would spell it. yeah man, i had to quit too and i just cant stand it when someone says you can die from willingly smoking weed.

hey, FUCK YOU!
calling me an advilfag? thats awesome dude i really want to know though, did you come up with this yourself? you are a grade A cunt.
i think its funny everyone on here makes a big deal about a guy coming on here with an unknown pill and asking info on it. main reason totse is complete shit now fucker.



haha its how the old school propaganda movies/articles would spell it. yeah man, i had to quit too and i just cant stand it when someone says you can die from willingly smoking weed.

I never even said that anyway. i said when you take take over the confortable dose where effect are not comfortable and enjoyable anymore.

everyone on here makes a big deal about a guy coming on here with an unknown pill and asking info on it.


You just fucking called someone out for misspelling "marijuana".

So, no motherfucker, you don't get a pass on the advil shit. You wanna talk shit, you better not be the fucking advilfag.

I never even said that anyway. i said when you take take over the confortable dose where effect are not comfortable and enjoyable anymore.

wait werent you the one in the thread where we were talking about not getting high anymore then you said "if you stop dont do as much because youll OD and die?"
it may have been someone else and if so sorry man. its just a ridiculous comment.

You just fucking called someone out for misspelling "marijuana".

So, no motherfucker, you don't get a pass on the advil shit. You wanna talk shit, you better not be the fucking advilfag.

and who the fuck are you man? are you the almighty fucking allknowing? no. im sure your fucking ignorant ass has had a question on something like this once in your life. fuckin asshole.
this thread looks pretty fucking stupid.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2127404

its the same thing man. you wanna be called an idiot because of some basic knowledge you werent aware of? fuck off man

wait werent you the one in the thread where we were talking about not getting high anymore then you said "if you stop dont do as much because youll OD and die?"
it may have been someone else and if so sorry man. its just a ridiculous comment.



No I never said anything like that. A couple months back I got into an argument about the definition of overdose and how it is applied to marijuana. the only thing I said that it is possible to have an overdose on marijuana but not in the sense where you would die but only where the effects become very uncomfortable and unenjoyable. If you oculd not over dose on marijuana then the term THC poisoning would have never been created. The definition of overdose is

To take too large of a dose or to many doses.
Or an excessive dose.
A greater than safe dose
to take more than a prescribed dose.
(It does not say anything about lethality.)


I have known people who have smoked way to much and had bad symptoms from it. And in my opinion and according to the definition that is an overdose also.
If anyone thinks marijuana is a perfectly safe drug and that you cannot take over your normal dose that gets you high then you are greatly mistaken because there has been cases where people even had to be hospitalized because they took way to high a dose of marijuana. It usually happens more when weed is consumed orally.
Again, marijuana toxcity is possible.
"[L]ethal effects of overdose by humans are nonexistent or rare"

Dewey, W. Cannabinoid Pharmacology. Pharmacological Reviews. 1986 Vol. 38, No. 2. pp. 151 - 178. pg. 172.


It says lethal effects but that does not me you can take an overdose and get away with it without getting bad symptoms. It only means you will not die.

and who the fuck are you man? are you the almighty fucking allknowing? no. im sure your fucking ignorant ass has had a question on something like this once in your life. fuckin asshole.
this thread looks pretty fucking stupid.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2127404


I think it's a pretty good question - I wanted to know. It was also a question not answered by google, which you can't say, because the first result for naproxen is:

Naproxen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen)

Naproxen and naproxen sodium are marketed under various trade names including: Aleve, Anaprox, Miranax, Naprogesic, Naprosyn, Naprelan, Synflex. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen - 81k - Cached (http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:CUugUsSdAhYJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen+naproxen&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Upb&q=related:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen)


So fuck you.

And you wanna fucking dig up old threads? I'll play that shit too motherfucker. Watch for an edit soon.

Edit:

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2121883
"best way to crush up adderall xr beads?"
A decent question, if it wasn't asked 15 times a fucking day

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2117226
"has anyone ever smoked acid?"
No comment.

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2116136
"difference between acid LSD and mescaline"
No comment.

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2097496
"girls. what dick size is acceptable"
If you have to ask, your dick's wayyyyy too small.

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2050098
"throwing up rolling"
Not bad, but it's this part of the post that gets you:
"my homie threw up last night after popping two trip stack mdma based pink motorolas"

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2010973
"raping a hot neighbor"
You want to rape a girl that goes to school with you. Not fuck, but rape. You want to RAPE her.

I think it's a pretty good question - I wanted to know. It was also a question not answered by google, which you can't say, because the first result for naproxen is:

Naproxen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen)

Naproxen and naproxen sodium are marketed under various trade names including: Aleve, Anaprox, Miranax, Naprogesic, Naprosyn, Naprelan, Synflex. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen - 81k - Cached (http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:CUugUsSdAhYJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen+naproxen&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Upb&q=related:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen)


So fuck you.

And you wanna fucking dig up old threads? I'll play that shit too motherfucker. Watch for an edit soon.

Yeah that was a pretty dumb question to ask on his part. I dont know why anyone would just type it into google first and see what comes up. he said his excuse was "it said painkiller" so he ask bltc. Next time google it first 5smok and you will avoid being flamed about it.

i bet your serching his name right now looking for all his dumb threads. Look in the thread a titled something i like "why is there so many seeds in this bud" he says that he smokes male marijuana "buds" and tried to tell me "male weed plants grow seeds."

Bumpage 4 update.

:)

Bumpage 4 update.

:)

Haha I was right. Nice payback.

Haha I loled at the rape one. What a fucking idiot.

5mok420 has been OWNED!

I think it's a pretty good question - I wanted to know. It was also a question not answered by google, which you can't say, because the first result for naproxen is:

Naproxen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen)

Naproxen and naproxen sodium are marketed under various trade names including: Aleve, Anaprox, Miranax, Naprogesic, Naprosyn, Naprelan, Synflex. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen - 81k - Cached (http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:CUugUsSdAhYJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen+naproxen&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a) - Similar pages (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=Upb&q=related:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen)


So fuck you.

And you wanna fucking dig up old threads? I'll play that shit too motherfucker. Watch for an edit soon.

Edit:

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2121883
"best way to crush up adderall xr beads?"
A decent question, if it wasn't asked 15 times a fucking day

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2117226
"has anyone ever smoked acid?"
No comment.

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2116136
"difference between acid LSD and mescaline"
No comment.

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2097496
"girls. what dick size is acceptable"
If you have to ask, your dick's wayyyyy too small.

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2050098
"throwing up rolling"
Not bad, but it's this part of the post that gets you:
"my homie threw up last night after popping two trip stack mdma based pink motorolas"

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2010973
"raping a hot neighbor"
You want to rape a girl that goes to school with you. Not fuck, but rape. You want to RAPE her.

oh so now to compete with all these i have to go through yours and pick them all out. god damnit you waste my fucking time. i made a fucking point in pulling up yours that its not that fucking cool when people want to get on your fucking case for a question you have you fucking cunt

here so should i go through each of those threads explaining why id post them?
fine fucker

1. crushing adderall beads - those things are a bitch to crush up. looking for the best and easiest way. found it =fail

2. smoking acid - simple question about a subject on which i have NO experience and LITTLE knowledge of. same as your menthol question. could have been figured out on google but im not a googler im a totsean, dick =fail

3. difference between LSD and mesca - i have never done either, had no idea on the difference, now i do know so through that thread i learned a lot of shit on both, therefore = fail

4. dick size question - dude im completely satisfied with my dick size, honestly i probably get more ass than you anyways. and im not just e-boosting myself right now, girls like me. unfortunately for you, theyre not into the pasty white, drapes shut, broken-framed glasses, pizza faced mother fuckers. =fail

5. throwing up while rolling - i just dont understand this one. thats what he took and he threw up = fail


and finally hell fucking yeah i wanna rape her, shes hot as fuck. rape fantasies are fun as hell. = fail.


now i could be a complete ass and go through your posts and find 20 threads that you say some retarded shit in but its just not worth my time yaknow? theres my justification for all of those so if you want to bitch. it can escalate all you want, just know im probably getting some ass while youre crying about my posts.

fuck off :)

No I never said anything like that. A couple months back I got into an argument about the definition of overdose and how it is applied to marijuana. the only thing I said that it is possible to have an overdose on marijuana but not in the sense where you would die but only where the effects become very uncomfortable and unenjoyable. If you oculd not over dose on marijuana then the term THC poisoning would have never been created. The definition of overdose is

To take too large of a dose or to many doses.
Or an excessive dose.
A greater than safe dose
to take more than a prescribed dose.
(It does not say anything about lethality.)


I have known people who have smoked way to much and had bad symptoms from it. And in my opinion and according to the definition that is an overdose also.
If anyone thinks marijuana is a perfectly safe drug and that you cannot take over your normal dose that gets you high then you are greatly mistaken because there has been cases where people even had to be hospitalized because they took way to high a dose of marijuana. It usually happens more when weed is consumed orally.
Again, marijuana toxcity is possible.
"[L]ethal effects of overdose by humans are nonexistent or rare"

Dewey, W. Cannabinoid Pharmacology. Pharmacological Reviews. 1986 Vol. 38, No. 2. pp. 151 - 178. pg. 172.


It says lethal effects but that does not me you can take an overdose and get away with it without getting bad symptoms. It only means you will not die.


alright man i have you confused with someone else then so my bad. i see what youre saying though cause ive smoked a grip of weed and gotten uncomfortable highs. but anyways the only way to overdose is if you were being gassed with marijuana smoke until you passed out and then even after. its just a high improbability that it would ever happen, actually would be a good way to kill someone and get it blamed on an accidental overdose.

1. crushing adderall beads - those things are a bitch to crush up. looking for the best and easiest way. found it =fail

2. smoking acid - simple question about a subject on which i have NO experience and LITTLE knowledge of. same as your menthol question. could have been figured out on google but im not a googler im a totsean, dick =fail

3. difference between LSD and mesca - i have never done either, had no idea on the difference, now i do know so through that thread i learned a lot of shit on both, therefore = fail

4. dick size question - dude im completely satisfied with my dick size, honestly i probably get more ass than you anyways. and im not just e-boosting myself right now, girls like me. unfortunately for you, theyre not into the pasty white, drapes shut, broken-framed glasses, pizza faced mother fuckers. =fail

5. throwing up while rolling - i just dont understand this one. thats what he took and he threw up = fail


and finally hell fucking yeah i wanna rape her, shes hot as fuck. rape fantasies are fun as hell. = fail.


1. Fine. Still coulda found it on google

2. I didn't find the answer to my menthol question on google. See #1.

3. I wasn't talking about the part of your title
"difference between acid, LSD and mescaline"
I was talking about
"difference between acid, LSD and mescaline"

4. Really don't want to comment.

5. He did not take "triple stack pink motorolas". He took likely shitty pink motorolas. Triple stack = noob. Thinking that the stamp makes a difference = noob.

And if you dig rape, that's cool. But I get my sex the legal way.

So, no, you've still come out for the worse from this.

1. Fine. Still coulda found it on google

2. I didn't find the answer to my menthol question on google. See #1.

3. I wasn't talking about the part of your title
"difference between acid, LSD and mescaline"
I was talking about
"difference between acid, LSD and mescaline"

4. Really don't want to comment.

5. He did not take "triple stack pink motorolas". He took likely shitty pink motorolas. Triple stack = noob. Thinking that the stamp makes a difference = noob.

And if you dig rape, that's cool. But I get my sex the legal way.

So, no, you've still come out for the worse from this.

1. yes and i said that. im not a googler, im a totsean. its easier for me to come here and ask any question that i come up with. i like answers from real people, not text files.

2. its in the tobacco, not the filter. there ya go. and they are more harmful for you and leave a plastic coating on your lungs. stay away from menthols unless you are doing ecstacy.

3. and? i had no idea what i was talking about then. now i do, enough said right? or do you want to keep bitching about how i made a thread without googling again?

4. ill bet you dont because your comment would most likely be retarded and sad and would probably end the same as all your other responses.

5. and no because I took the same pills the same night. rolled balls. and how is triple stack "noob"? and i know the stamp makes completely no difference. i just added it in there for extra reference. notice how i said mdma as well, idiot.
also what the fuck man you just recently did E for the first time at the end of march so now youre the fucking authority on it? get some fucking knowledge.

finally, dude honestly ive never raped anyone and never will. i just made the thread because it went through my mind. also i think its funny youre going a year back for that thread.

man we can keep going through like this or you can shut your mouth. i dont really give a shit how stupid any of my questions are because i gain knowledge one way or another from every, single, one. so not only am i learning more and expanding my mind and vocabulary, im making sensitive assholes like you more and more pissed off.

and what are you like 14? saying how its annoying people cant sell drugs without asking totse. you do the same thing you little bastard.

so once again, fuck off :)

5. and no because I took the same pills the same night. rolled balls. and how is triple stack "noob"? and i know the stamp makes completely no difference. i just added it in there for extra reference. notice how i said mdma as well, idiot.

man we can keep going through like this or you can shut your mouth. i dont really give a shit how stupid any of my questions are because i gain knowledge one way or another from every, single, one.


Did you test the pills? How can you be sure they were MDMA? How do you know they were triple stack? It's "noob" becuase it's marketing bullshit from dealers.

And if you're cool with being a dumbfuck for all of the totse community, that's cool. I'm just saying that your shitty questions could be typed into google, instead of polluting this forum.

Did you test the pills? How can you be sure they were MDMA? How do you know they were triple stack? It's "noob" becuase it's marketing bullshit from dealers.

And if you're cool with being a dumbfuck for all of the totse community, that's cool. I'm just saying that your shitty questions could be typed into google, instead of polluting this forum.

personally no, i did not. but i had a friend who was a dealer for years and had her own test kit. i bought E from her for over a year and know that what she tells me is true. dude, now that i know youre some little kid this conversation is ridiculous because you are running out of rebuttals. stop replying.

no, im just cool with posting what i want, how i want, and when i want because totse is complete shit now. and if you had been here 4 years ago you would know this place is NOT what it used to be. so shut the fuck up and go back to 4chan.

^ You can wax poetic all you want about "the good ol' days" but your join date's only 3 months before mine.

Let's keep everything verifiable here, since the first time I saw totse and didn't even know there was a BBS was back in 2002. I came back in December 2006 and early 2007 is when I joined.

I don't bother taking 5-htp before using MDMA, as i tried it a few days before, and I don't think it's that effective at BOOSTING your levels of serotonin, when they're at a fairly normal level anyway. Maybe a week before works better... especially if you're low, but really, go running in the sun and eat a good diet and in a few weeks......

Afterwards though, is a different matter. I think 5-htp does help a fair bit with my comedowns, although it's quite subtle. Just takes the edge off, and reduces that hot-headache-no-serotonin-irritable-lethargy that no one in the world enjoys. I occationally use it in winter if I feel all low and down n out, but hey, the minor boost it gives me could well be placebo. Don't know, or care, really.

Anyway, it's not a set medecine. Be careful, and work out what's good for you. There is not a fixed way to pre/post load.

oh yeah buddy well thats why it helps having more than one handle, and i dont need to post how long ago that was because if i do youre gonna get in a whole "oh i was here first" fight huh? because you cant take it like the little cunt you are. but honestly, as any person from back then can tell you, totse WAS better. if you think it is good now then you either have very low expectations, like insane trolls, or are contributing to the overall shittiness.

so hey, congratulations on coming to totse sooooo long ago and good job not finding the community for over 4 years. if only we could be so lucky now...

you are a twat :D

oh yeah buddy well thats why it helps having more than one handle, and i dont need to post how long ago that was because if i do youre gonna get in a whole "oh i was here first" fight huh? because you cant take it like the little cunt you are. but honestly, as any person from back then can tell you, totse WAS better. if you think it is good now then you either have very low expectations, like insane trolls, or are contributing to the overall shittiness.

so hey, congratulations on coming to totse sooooo long ago and good job not finding the community for over 4 years. if only we could be so lucky now...

you are a twat :D

You may not want to admit you have 2 USERNAMES ON TOTSE, I believe that is against the rules!

To all the assholes that say tryptophan is just a theory are fools. It's what your body must intake to create serotonin. It's not created internally. 5HTP is one step closer than tryptophan to actual serotonin.