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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-06-06, 05:07
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Achilles Armour 
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Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Or convince me that there's nothing wrong with it. I've done it twice, I'm 17 y.o. and I wont do it more than twice a month. I'm just wondering if I'm fucking up my mind by taking it.
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#2
 2008-06-06, 05:08
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
We can't tell you that "there's nothing wrong with it" because if you abuse it, then there is something wrong with it.
And we can't convince you to stop doing it either, because it is so much fun.
Sorry holmes, it's all up to you on this one.
edit: did i just call someone "holmes"? maybe ive been taking too many drugs myself. or not enough. you guys decide!
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#3
 2008-06-06, 05:12
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Maybe you just don't have enough perspective on the subject. Pop a few pills and consider the issue while rolling.
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#4
 2008-06-06, 05:19
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Okay, well mdma like any other substance is not safe to abuse. Abuse in general is not wise. Twice a month ought to be alright but learn to use it for uplifting/beneficial psychological purposes other then party use, ya digg?
.peace.
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#5
 2008-06-06, 05:42
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
We can't tell you that "there's nothing wrong with it" because if you abuse it, then there is something wrong with it.
And we can't convince you to stop doing it either, because it is so much fun.
Sorry holmes, it's all up to you on this one.
This holmes.
Maybe you just don't have enough perspective on the subject. Pop a few pills and consider the issue while rolling.
This.
Okay, well mdma like any other substance is not safe to abuse. Abuse in general is not wise. Twice a month ought to be alright but learn to use it for uplifting/beneficial psychological purposes other then party use, ya digg?
.peace.
And this.
edit: did i just call someone "holmes"? maybe ive been taking too many drugs myself. or not enough. you guys decide!
Oh and most definetly not enough.
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#6
 2008-06-06, 07:02
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
not enough drugs buy more
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#7
 2008-06-06, 07:26
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Most people stop doing it when:
1. They get "responsibilities" and cannot stay up all night smiling and hugging people.
2. Cannot afford it anymore.
3. Build a tolerance and must take more than a normal amount of pills.
4. Get bored of it.
Until one of those happens, find some pure ex and have fun!
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#8
 2008-06-06, 09:08
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The Doc 
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
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Originally Posted by plehem12
We can't tell you that "there's nothing wrong with it" because if you abuse it, then there is something wrong with it.
And we can't convince you to stop doing it either, because it is so much fun.
Sorry holmes, it's all up to you on this one.
edit: did i just call someone "holmes"? maybe ive been taking too many drugs myself. or not enough. you guys decide!
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I prefer "holmes" over "dog", but I don't live in East L.A. so I can't get away with it. C'est la vie.
Peace.
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#9
 2008-06-06, 09:21
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Are you fucking kidding me? I'm 15 I've done Ecstacy roughly 25 times. I dropped a pill before art today, it was great fun. Done stop man, you've only just begun. You only need to stop when it starts to affect you negatively.
Until then though, drink up, double drop and inhale, it's what your teenage years are for man!
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#10
 2008-06-06, 09:25
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
I honestly don't give a fuck whether or not you use mdma or not. Fuck, inject paint stripper into your cock for all I care.
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#11
 2008-06-06, 09:43
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
If you do it enough, your mind will turn on you or you'll become an e-tard, and then you'll be much more motivated to quit. Granted E isn't as bad as even many people in the drug culture seem to think. But it's damage is directly correlated to how frequently it's done, so if you do it enough I'm sure you'll reach the point where ytu feel you've permanently fucked up something in your brain.
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#12
 2008-06-06, 09:49
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Drugs are for gays, that's why you should stop.
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#13
 2008-06-06, 13:31
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
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Originally Posted by parkus
Drugs are for gays, that's why you should stop.
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thats probably just poppers
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#14
 2008-06-06, 13:54
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Most people stop doing it when... they get "responsibilities" and cannot stay up all night smiling and hugging people.
I loled :D.
There's nothing wrong with MDMA. There is, however, something wrong with the people who abuse it.
Just know your limits and don't be stupid. Most things in moderation are fine.
From a personal perspective, I've been using MDMA roughly once a month (sometimes twice) for about 1 1/2 years now - I'm fine and, besides the drowsy comedowns, it doesn't effect my life negatively. When/if it does, I'll stop. It's that simple.
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#15
 2008-06-06, 14:31
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Take 5-HTP before and after rolling so you minimize depletion of serotonin. Lack of serotonin is the only possible harm it can do, because dopamine starts trying to enter the serotonin receptors and effectively destroys them. Just take it and you should be fine.
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#16
 2008-06-06, 14:56
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Make sure you roll about 5 times a week, and only buy triple-stacked double-dipped blue Supermans. Otherwise it's a waste of time.
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#17
 2008-06-06, 14:59
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
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Originally Posted by Piles Of Crack
Make sure you roll about 5 times a week, and only buy triple-stacked double-dipped blue Supermans. Otherwise it's a waste of time.
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This guy knows his drugs ;)
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#18
 2008-06-06, 22:36
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
edit: did i just call someone "holmes"? maybe ive been taking too many drugs myself. or not enough. you guys decide!
Too much, start coming on when you are coming down from meth again.
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#19
 2008-06-06, 22:50
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
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Originally Posted by fat_thighs
Most people stop doing it when:
1. They get "responsibilities" and cannot stay up all night smiling and hugging people.
2. Cannot afford it anymore.
3. Build a tolerance and must take more than a normal amount of pills.
4. Get bored of it.
Until one of those happens, find some pure ex and have fun!
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Dont listen to this. Ive done grams upon grams in the past... 2 months and im finally stopping my abuse (but i need something, so im doing coke one weekend, acid the next for the whole summer). It just loses its magic so fast if you abuse it. 2 times is nothing though, do it every couple weeks and youll be so happy :)
its so amazing, but it can be so hard on a person, and while its not addicting, its just so great to be on mdma.
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#20
 2008-06-07, 01:09
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
convince yourself.
UTFSE, do some research and make up your own god damn mind.
stop relying on totse to make your decisions for you, when we know absolutely nothing about you or your situation.
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#21
 2008-06-07, 01:11
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
just take more pussy.
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#22
 2008-06-07, 03:53
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Why would you want to stop?
Like really I've only done it twice. The first time was pure magic and the second time not so much (the pill wasn't very good). But since that second time wasn't as good it just makes me want to do it again.
Just go find some good pills and go out and enjoy yourself instead of being so scared about it. Don't regret it when you're older that you never had as much fun as you could.
Until you get negative effects I don't see why you don't keep using it (in moderation don't just start abusing it).
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#23
 2008-06-07, 06:22
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
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Originally Posted by fat_thighs
Most people stop doing it when:
1. They get "responsibilities" and cannot stay up all night smiling and hugging people.
2. Cannot afford it anymore.
3. Build a tolerance and must take more than a normal amount of pills.
4. Get bored of it.
Until one of those happens, find some pure ex and have fun!
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One, two and three.... I havent done it for such a long time because i just can't get very high for very long like when I first started (tolerance is fuckin bogus) and no money for it.
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#24
 2008-06-07, 11:11
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Ecstacy is awesome for having a pretty guaranteed good time (it's an entactogen/empathogen, with a very intense "mood lift" quite markedly different from standard dopamine-related bliss.
It can be so awesome to talk to people on E, share things, profess your sense of a bond to another person, that you otherwise may not be as prone to saying. Empathy and a very deep and fuckong sublime mood lift where everything is just fucking awesome. Like, it;s actually awesome. there are much deeper effects than other standard club drugs like coke and shit... which are generally no deeper than just pure "pleasure" or gratification. Obviously this is a very seductive path, etc, etc.
MDMA isn't conventionally addictive, but some people will coe to rely on it. Addiction is far more remote with E than with sometrhing way more accessable/fucking everywhere, like benzos or booze, or something that serves as the ultimate escape (strong/euphoric opiods or coke,) Granted, a person could safely do coke or heroin much more frequently than they could safely use E too frequently. There is a chance of causing irreparable damage, but noticable brain damage only seems to happen in cases of ridiculous excess. I kbow one dude who did E and coke ridiculously frequently all summer, and he's still totally there... actually one of the smarter people I know.
So yeah, ecstasy is truly a wonderful and unique drugs. If you use it too frequently, the "magic" will die and become hollow. ideally every few months, but Shulgin uses 2 weeks as minimum rule of thumb, and he seems to be doing pretty okay still. So it's safe if you save it for special occasions. While you're a kid you can (or should I say probably will treat it a bit irresponsibiliy, and do it perhaps a bit more often than this, now and then. As long as that doesn't become the rule by which you set your limits.. Since it's a nice drug and release so much intense happiness, when it's new, a person's first tendency is to spam the good shit as much as they safely can, because it's good in so many ways. Not just good vibes. Whenever I'm on E, I end up making like a dozen more friends that night with comparatively little effort due to the openness/empathy...
SO just don't be one of the kind that throws safety to the wind and just says "fuck it" and use it irresponsibly, leading to a sort of damage, if not the objective/medical well-being of your brain, frequent use totally disrupts your life. You run out of the happy chemical and live in some of the worst depressive funks you can imagine, if it's good or you cross your limits. It's best to be saved for the right situations, and I think it's a drug people also outgrow a fair deal.
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#25
 2008-06-07, 17:37
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Monotony can ruin things, especially drugs.
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#26
 2008-06-07, 19:42
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Alright, how about this: I did ecstasy every weekend when I was 16-17. Right now I'm a business major with a 3.50 GPA.
This drug is not going to ruin your life, it's not going to destroy your brain. However I'm not going to suggest do it that often, because it really gets old. I definitely ruined it, and I only look back on those days with disdain.
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#27
 2008-06-07, 20:38
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Thanks for all the responses.
I just wanted to know if it's as bad as people think. To see if I was ruining the future of my mind. I've decided to keep doing it.
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#28
 2008-06-07, 20:43
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
I'm just wondering if I'm fucking up my mind by taking it.
Look to me like the effects are doing everything they are suppose to.
*stretches*
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#29
 2008-06-07, 20:54
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
Well as it has been said, you are the only one who can prevent yourself from doing it.
For me, the reason I don't touch it is because it is overpriced shit where I live. It's far from pure, just junk, and overpriced. I prefer some sort of opiate instead.
Unless you know the person selling really well (like grew up with them, and they wouldn't fuck you over) then I wouldn't trust it. Not saying that the occasional situation doesn't happen where someone gets fucked over by someone close...but where I'm at in my group we don't do that shit and kind of look out for each other.
If you feel the need to spend your money on a drug then go with some opiates, especially if you like that kind of "swallow a pill and be done" thing.
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#30
 2008-06-07, 21:06
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where is my mind?
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Re: Convince me not to keep doing ecstacy.
I'm 17 y.o.
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