I am going to be trying an extraction on poppy pods to make a smokeable opium from them. Even if the product comes out too oily to smoke I will just be sticking it in capsules and eating them so its a win-win. I have to wait like a week to order a batch of pods. I will prob be ordering like 150-200 Large pods I get my tax check mailed on the 13th and I have a vaction from work after that so I have plenty of time to just fuck around with. I am planning on the first couple of days just getting bombed with the opium and some pills than using the opium to wean myself down and quiting the second week of my vaction for good.

Well enogh of me rambling I was just wondering if anyone else has done an extraction like this before. Here is the extraction.


fresh pods were freezed, then ground in a blender, with 3 volume equivalents of cold water,
and allowed to stand for 1 hour.
The resulting goo was stirred, then sifted crudely, to retain the biggest pieces.
The filtrate was allowed to stand for 1 hour at room temperature, after which the fairly clear,
light brown top layer was decanted into a bottle, which was not to be filled completely.
The filter residue was extracted again with water, fractions were combined.
The closed bottle was kept still, in a freezer at -5 centigrade until 2/3 of the solution was frozen.
The freezing solution was filtrated, after which the ice was discarded.
The filtrate was put back in the bottle, and the freezing procedure was repeated.
The resulting brown solution was allowed to evaporate on a hot water bath,
yielding a brittle brown substance which was potent and tasteful enough to smoke pleasurably.


The dude who came up with this said for dried pods like I am using to let it sit in water for a while in the fridge before freezing and to do 3 extractions instead of 2 with the fresh.

-Greg

Do you really need to freeze the damn things? I can only assume that is to break down cell walls, but why do you need to do that?

mike

Yea thats why you freeze the fresh pods but the dried ones you dont have to freeze. You have to freeze the mixture of 2/3s to force the oils and waxes into the ice and make the opiates go into the 1/3 parts of the water.

Gotcha. I eagerly await your results.

mike

thought you were getting clean you hapless nigger :)

How about instead of wasting those poppy seeds, you wait till next spring and plant them, dipshit. Then you can get REAL opium.

That lasted all of 2 days.

i think you're too stupid to do this

Hoppin lowrider, arent you the guy who scammed some people on RTS? You are a piece of shit.

And you are not going to get physically hooked on opium after a week of use, pussy, you do not need to "ween" your self off the second week.

If anything, dosing the second week would increase your chanches of w/d when u quit the third week.

You are probally too stupid to do this anyways and you should just go back to scamming RTS.

How about I am already physicly addicted to opiates I was using it to wean myself down off of my use already.

Now go back to jail junior

I am going to be trying an extraction on poppy pods to make a smokeable opium from them. Even if the product comes out too oily to smoke I will just be sticking it in capsules and eating them so its a win-win. I have to wait like a week to order a batch of pods. I will prob be ordering like 150-200 Large pods I get my tax check mailed on the 13th and I have a vaction from work after that so I have plenty of time to just fuck around with. I am planning on the first couple of days just getting bombed with the opium and some pills than using the opium to wean myself down and quiting the second week of my vaction for good.

Well enogh of me rambling I was just wondering if anyone else has done an extraction like this before. Here is the extraction.

The dude who came up with this said for dried pods like I am using to let it sit in water for a while in the fridge before freezing and to do 3 extractions instead of 2 with the fresh.

-Greg

I tried many times different ways and dont waste your time on that, the whole theory behind it is fucked (bout the alkaloids not getting trapped in ice coz of lattices etc. etc.) Trust me on this, i separated the ice from the unfrozen half and drank the ice next day and volume for volume ice was about %80 the strenght of the unfrozen liquid, if not just as potent. Like i said the guy who came up with that applied viable concept (fract. freezing) to unfeasible application.

The best method to get smokeable opium from dried pods, or even fresh unsliced pods would be as follows:

0. Prepare pods. Cut off crowns, break off the nuckle, take out seeds (keep em)
1. Crush to fine powder, whatever means dont create excessive heat via friction (electic grinders take 1-2 sec grinds every 10 seconds etc.)
2. First soak in warm water for 15mins, stirr up every 2-3 mins. Filter, strain the mush, squish it around etc. dont break the filter paper.
3. Resoak the mush in hot water (not boiling but scolding hot), stir around, steep for 15mins. Filter,strain,press out them juices
4. Resoak the mush in hot water, steep for 20 mins, adding a squirt of citric/ascorbic acid every 5 mins and stirring. Filter and strain (french press ftw) (this step is only good if you want to drink your tea, coz lemon/lime makes the smoke kind of nasty. So drink this and use previous 2 soaks for the smokin goo. unless you use pure form acids, dont use that for smokable product.
Compare the color the liquid from each soak&strain use that as reference for future batches. The darker and more bitter it gets, the more potent it is.
5. If you need to store it, freeze it. It will spoil and smell really sick in room temp in 2-3 days.
6. With the help of a vacuum pump/aspirator and a vacuum adapter in a boiling flask you need evaporate the water below morphine breakdown point, you can also use dessicants but they take a while on their own and that liquid goes bad pretty fast in room temps.
7. Here you got few options, if your pods were high potency from the start, your goo might be good to go at this point. However, chances are that it was not, and the taste is nothing like sliced latex opium. You should refine your product, if you cant find out/figure out how then you wont be able to do it anyways. Then you can use another batch of pod tea and a simple process (that as i found out wont work very well without a nice >$100 ph meter) you can precipitate out all the nasty sugars,fats,chlorophyl etc and keep the calcium morphenate, and then basify it. Use that to "lace" the goo from the first process to make the already good opium into the 2-hit-OD shit :D

Thats just ime, its not good for commercial scale production but with proper refinement you can have better shit than Thailand.

i think you're too stupid to do this

A fucking monkey can do that.

How about instead of wasting those poppy seeds, you wait till next spring and plant them, dipshit. Then you can get REAL opium.

You cant fucking read? PODS dipshit, not seeds.

He is man, he's just having one last final super-party-blowout binge to enjoy himself with before he really hunkers down and stops taking them.

dude withdrawing from opium is alot worse than anyone specific opiate...


just letting you know, you have a much larger alkaloid composition here..

dumbass.

thats bunch of fucking bullshit, what alkaloid composition? codeine, morphine and a buch of non addictive non recreational crap like noscapine or papaverine? dont spread such fucking myths poppy tea is a way better alternative to say methadone. yea it is weaksauce in comparison but id rather be addicted to opium/ppt anyways. and kratom is great for gettin off opium if you got all into it. Together is an effective and all natural way to get off harder opiates. Better than md at least.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2isgy87&s=3


with that, and a little more know how, you can make over the counter heroin. And yes, it really is that easy.