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 #1 
Old 2008-05-31, 04:00
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Default Piracetam + hydergeine

just to let you all know

i have powered up my smarts

smarts

although it may not seem like it

piracetam and hydergeine taken together give me at least a + 4 to intelligence
 #2 
Old 2008-05-31, 04:10
silverballs silverballs is offline
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*adds piracetam talisman to inventory*

*adds helmet of hydegeine to inventory*


Shutup and do something.
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Old 2008-05-31, 04:12
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I'm willing to do anything right about now.
but let's not

let this thread degenerate more than it already has

eh?
 #4 
Old 2008-05-31, 04:55
Puck Puck is offline
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oooz newtropics??

dey dont fuxx u up get da fuk out of mah BLTC u nigger

lulz
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Old 2008-05-31, 04:58
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Originally Posted by Puck
oooz newtropics??

dey dont fuxx u up get da fuk out of mah BLTC u nigger

lulz


yeah well ill beat you up
 #6 
Old 2008-05-31, 05:16
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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piracetam and hydergine don't work

if you're going to pay money to become smarter you might as well buy amphetamines
 #7 
Old 2008-05-31, 05:24
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Australia, ACT
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Are you feeling ok?
 #8 
Old 2008-05-31, 05:57
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Default Re: Piracetam + hydergeine

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Originally Posted by Chemical Eudaemonia
piracetam and hydergine don't work

if you're going to pay money to become smarter you might as well buy amphetamines


gtfo speed freak
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Old 2008-05-31, 06:05
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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gtfo speed freak

gtfo pseudointellectual hobo
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Old 2008-05-31, 06:06
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gtfo pseudointellectual hobo

god damnit im an intellectual pseudo hobo, not a psuedo-intellectual hobo
 #11 
Old 2008-05-31, 07:01
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box
just to let you all know

i have powered up my smarts

smarts

although it may not seem like it

piracetam and hydergeine taken together give me at least a + 4 to intelligence


actually im on this very combination right now.....

in fact our hydergeine comes from the same site..... ;)

as far as the Piracetam is concerned I'm interested in the dose you found most suitable....i take 5 grams/day in 1.5+ mg
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Old 2008-05-31, 08:20
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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god damnit im an intellectual pseudo hobo, not a psuedo-intellectual hobo

I bet you found your computer dumpster diving in the back of a comp usa, best buy, or circuit city. Some upgraded and threw their old one out in the dumpster for you.
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Old 2008-05-31, 10:04
plainclothescop plainclothescop is offline
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gtfo pseudointellectual hobo
Well said.
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Old 2008-05-31, 11:33
Leary Leary is offline
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if you're going to pay money to become smarter you might as well buy amphetamines

yup. Speed's the only decent nootropic. Unless you're the kind of fag who drinks chamomile tea for "anxiolysis".
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Old 2008-05-31, 17:40
She Devil She Devil is offline
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I've been meaning to get some Hydergine.

QHI? I hear that the FAS variety is exponentially more effective than the non-FAS.
 #16 
Old 2008-05-31, 20:20
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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I hear that the FAS variety is exponentially more effective than the non-FAS.



what do you mean by FAS variety?
fetal alcohol syndromeConfused

The liquid form?
I use my hydergeine by splitting it in half and then hold it under my tongue for ~3minutes (localized soreness does occur in the area which you hold the tablet/powder). Making the liquid form basically the same, and substantially more expensive/mg.
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Old 2008-05-31, 20:57
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what do you guys think of Modafinil (Provigil)? Does it work, or is it just a load of bullshit?
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Old 2008-06-01, 06:33
She Devil She Devil is offline
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what do you mean by FAS variety?
fetal alcohol syndromeConfused

The liquid form?
I use my hydergeine by splitting it in half and then hold it under my tongue for ~3minutes (localized soreness does occur in the area which you hold the tablet/powder). Making the liquid form basically the same, and substantially more expensive/mg.


No. "Facilitated Absorption System" - time release, in other words. Non-time release hydergine supposedly has very low bioavailability.

The cheapest I can find it for is $35 for 60 4.5mg tabs.
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Old 2008-06-01, 06:34
She Devil She Devil is offline
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what do you guys think of Modafinil (Provigil)? Does it work, or is it just a load of bullshit?


Over-hyped IMO.
 #20 
Old 2008-06-01, 07:10
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Your medicine cabinet
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Modafinil does nothing that coffee can't except put a dent in your wallet.
 #21 
Old 2008-06-01, 07:51
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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No. "Facilitated Absorption System" - time release, in other words. Non-time release hydergine supposedly has very low bioavailability.

The cheapest I can find it for is $35 for 60 4.5mg tabs.

35USD with s/h? EEK!
Where?????

how does this "fas" exactly benefit me?
I seem to tolerate this stuff well, except for a single instance of definite dark room pseudo-hallucinations experienced a day after i rapidly began the stuff at 9mg/day (in 2 doses)
(wave/pulsating like vision field overlay in colors and morphing shapes of yellow, green, blue and non pronounced reds and purples) This, could have been something unrelated.

Currently I split the 4.5 mg in halves and take a half twice daily, it works for me well.
I have tried 9+ mg and even snorted a pill once, the only negative i have experienced was the ungodly sinus pressure...




Also, does your body negatively react when you stop using hydergine, resulting in a significant decrease of the oxygen supply to the brain? I have experienced some undesirable effects after a month or 2 off the stuff. The only way i can describe it, is a: lack of intensity in my vision, my surroundings seem unnaturally yellow and depressing.
This, once again, could have been something unrelated
 #22 
Old 2008-06-01, 08:24
Pooter Pooter is offline
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35USD with s/h? EEK!
Where?????

how does this "fas" exactly benefit me?
I split the 4.5 mg in halves and take twice daily.

I have tried 9+ mg and even snorted a pill once, the only negative i have experienced was the ungodly sinus pressure...

Also does your body negatively react when you stop using hydergine, resulting in a significant decrease of the oxygen supply to the brain?

I have experienced some undesirable effects after a month or 2 off the stuff, but that could very well be due to many other factors.

The only way i can describe it, is a: lack of intensity in my vision, my surroundings seem unnaturally yellow and depressing.

Looks like it could either be destructive oxidation of your rhodopsin, which would cause a bias towards brighter wavelength. We would have to assume that opponent process theory is correct though, as that would decrease the bodies ability to percieve darker colors, and in turn, contrasted vision would result in a lighter, or less intense, perception of lights.

There is a slight possibility that the alleged nootropic effects are allowing for an expanded work capabilities of the optic nerves, which could result in psuedo tetrachromacy. That last assumption would be based on the assumption that more Optic nerve capacity = capability to process complex secondary colors quicker and that the chances of being "knocked off" by selective perception(neglection of "superflous" color stimulus because brain can only process so much) is decreased.
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Old 2008-06-01, 15:38
Ljudska Ljudska is offline
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I bet you found your computer dumpster diving in the back of a comp usa, best buy, or circuit city. Some upgraded and threw their old one out in the dumpster for you.

hey, there's no shame in that.
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Old 2008-06-01, 18:26
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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Looks like it could either be destructive oxidation of your rhodopsin, which would cause a bias towards brighter wavelength. We would have to assume that opponent process theory is correct though, as that would decrease the bodies ability to percieve darker colors, and in turn, contrasted vision would result in a lighter, or less intense, perception of lights.

There is a slight possibility that the alleged nootropic effects are allowing for an expanded work capabilities of the optic nerves, which could result in psuedo tetrachromacy. That last assumption would be based on the assumption that more Optic nerve capacity = capability to process complex secondary colors quicker and that the chances of being "knocked off" by selective perception(neglection of "superflous" color stimulus because brain can only process so much) is decreased.

Actually this is not present in day light, which looks better then ever.

It just seems to jump out at me, the artificial light sources seem foreign and depressing to me.

It has become distracting, and something I can't get used to, unlike a foul odor or noise.
Colors in general have become quite interesting, streetlights like the reds and greens seem to bright and annoying at times...and i'm not the type to bitch about colors, but these things hurt....the change of my color and surrounding perception is accompanied with a head change which i cant exactly describe in words....

But, perhaps this is something else and is totally unrelated. I will soon be doing an extended tissue mineral analysis to get a better feel for what is going on.
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Old 2008-06-01, 18:33
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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The cheapest I can find it for is $35 for 60 4.5mg tabs.

I shell out way more then that for the "novaris" one. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction for getting such a reasonable price.
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Old 2008-06-01, 23:06
G_P G_P is offline
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I bet you found your computer dumpster diving in the back of a comp usa, best buy, or circuit city. Some upgraded and threw their old one out in the dumpster for you.


whats wrong with that? ive gotten lots of good electronics for free because people were throwing it away. Free shit is the best.
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Old 2008-06-07, 22:29
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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whats wrong with that? ive gotten lots of good electronics for free because people were throwing it away. Free shit is the best.

Nothing wrong with that i was just messing around because of his pharmacy dumpster diving thread. it was just joke calm down.
 
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