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Old 2008-05-31, 02:38
RollDutches RollDutches is offline
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Default Cocaine like Reasearch Chemical

Maybe around a year or so ago, there was a post about this RC that might have been and analogue of Cocaine or just a RC like it.

Anyone happen to know the name?
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Old 2008-05-31, 02:43
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Could be 2-AI
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2_aminoindan/2_aminoindan.shtml

or this
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4_fluoroamphetamine/4_fluoroamphetamine.shtml
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Old 2008-05-31, 02:44
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Mdpv?
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Old 2008-05-31, 02:44
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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You're looking for benzoylmethyl ecgonine. It's IUPAC is methyl (1R,2R,3S,5S)-3- (benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1] octane-2-carboxylate.

Kinda as hard to find as regular cocaine and you're probably gonna end up paying the same price for it anyways.

Last about an hour, cocaine-like rush. VERY RARE though.
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Old 2008-05-31, 03:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RollDutches
Maybe around a year or so ago, there was a post about this RC that might have been and analogue of Cocaine or just a RC like it.

Anyone happen to know the name?


There are an ungodly fuckload of compounds which will interfere with VMAT. Do you plan on narrowing this down?

'cause I'm not going to brute-force every possible mono, bi-, or tricyclic (usually)-monoamine hydrocarbon that could possibly physically exist for you.
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Old 2008-05-31, 03:26
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there are so many bloody RCs dude. "cocaine like" is pretty broad.
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Old 2008-05-31, 03:27
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Try typing "stimulants" into wikipedia.

If you can't find what you're looking for within 5 minutes than this thread wasn't a complete waste.
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Old 2008-05-31, 06:48
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I remember that post if it's the one where the people who worked with it had to use gloves/masks since it was so damn strong. Talking about airborne powder getting inhaled and such.

I remembered the post about half a year ago and found the wiki but I don't recall the name or have a link.

Anyways that's only if you're talking about the post I am.
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Old 2008-05-31, 15:42
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You're looking for benzoylmethyl ecgonine. It's IUPAC is methyl (1R,2R,3S,5S)-3- (benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1] octane-2-carboxylate.

Kinda as hard to find as regular cocaine and you're probably gonna end up paying the same price for it anyways.

Last about an hour, cocaine-like rush. VERY RARE though.


Benzoylmethyl ecgonine is the chemical name for cocaine shit head.
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Old 2008-05-31, 15:52
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You're looking for benzoylmethyl ecgonine. It's IUPAC is methyl (1R,2R,3S,5S)-3- (benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1] octane-2-carboxylate.

Kinda as hard to find as regular cocaine and you're probably gonna end up paying the same price for it anyways.

Last about an hour, cocaine-like rush. VERY RARE though.


Ha ha.

Subtle ;)
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Old 2008-05-31, 15:59
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Benzoylmethyl ecgonine is the chemical name for cocaine shit head.

WHOOOSH
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Old 2008-05-31, 18:27
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Yeah sorry I can't think of anything more, I know the effects were just like coke but 30x
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Old 2008-05-31, 18:30
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Was it psychedelic too or just stimulating?
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Old 2008-05-31, 18:50
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4-Methylmethcathinone

Look it up on erowid. It is stronger than speed and has virtually no hangover.
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Old 2008-05-31, 18:54
RollDutches RollDutches is offline
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Just stimulating it wasn't 4-Methylmethcathinone :/
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Old 2008-05-31, 19:39
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I'm willing to bet it was CFT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(-)-2%CE%B2-Carbomethoxy-3%CE%B2-(4-fluorophenyl)tropane), as that's the only real "cocaine-like RC" I've seen discussed here.
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Old 2008-05-31, 22:26
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I'm willing to bet it was CFT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(-)-2%CE%B2-Carbomethoxy-3%CE%B2-(4-fluorophenyl)tropane), as that's the only real "cocaine-like RC" I've seen discussed here.


This may very well be the one i was talking about anyways.
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Old 2008-06-01, 01:10
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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ive tried that shit its ok but kinda gay tho i prefer real cocaine its much cheaper too cuz i can get pounds of the shit for like $5 bucks lol fags u all suck
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Old 2008-06-01, 04:03
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Benzoylmethyl ecgonine is the chemical name for cocaine shit head.

right over your head, huh?
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Old 2008-06-01, 04:05
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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WHOOOSH

This, but moar.

:)
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Old 2008-06-01, 05:15
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would this have the same effects as coke if iv'd?
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Old 2008-06-01, 08:58
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I was reading about this one called WD-40 or something like that. It was really dangerous because it was like 500x the strength of coke and people couldn't take it or they would OD(less than 1 mic).

Also, DimethylBenzocaine is reported in some pubmed articles to have similar action to cocaine, with effects leading slightly more towards the analgesic side.
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Old 2008-06-01, 13:13
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I was reading about this one called WD-32 or something like that. It was really dangerous because it was like 500x the strength of coke and people couldn't take it or they would OD(less than 1 mic).

I think you mean WD-40.
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Old 2008-06-01, 17:59
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I think you mean WD-40.

yea, thanks.
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Old 2008-06-02, 01:16
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Hey all, I don't know if this has been posted here or not but there is a new thing going around my town at least called angel eyes. Here is a quote from another forum.

Angel Eyes is a brand name dog pill that's active ingredient is tylosin tartrate. Tylosin is a powerful antibiotic used in animal feed to produce healthy pigs, cows, and chickens. Its antibiotic effects on humans is zip.
However, there is a strange side effect...
Department of Industrial Health, Ministry of Labour, Singapore- "Tylosin when ingested in 5 mg doses in adults, caused increased heart rate, blood pressure, metabolism; feelings of exhilaration; increased mental alertness; rapid or irregular heart beat; reduced appetite; weight loss; headaches; heart failure; respiratory failure; nausea; abdominal pain; strokes; seizures..."
You only get the negative sides if you do too much just like with coke.

Merck Index has this to say...

Monograph Number: 9900
Title: Tylosin
CAS Registry Number: 1401-69-0
Trademarks: Tylan (Elanco)
Molecular Formula: C46H77NO17
Molecular Weight: 916.10.
Percent Composition: C 60.31%, H 8.47%, N 1.53%, O 29.69%
Literature References: Macrolide antibiotic isolated from a strain of Streptomycetes fradiae found in soil from Thailand: Hamill et al., Antibiot. & Chemother. 11, 328 (1961); eidem, US 3178341 (1965 to Lilly). Prodn in batch and chemostat cultures: P. P. Gray, S. Bhuwapathanapun, Biotech. Bioeng. 22, 1785 (1980). Partial structure: Morin, Gorman, Tetrahedron Letters 1964, 2339. Structure: Morin et al., ibid. 1970, 4737; Achenbach et al., Ber. 108, 2481 (1975). Configurational study: S. Omura et al., Tetrahedron Letters 1977, 1045. Abs config: eidem, J. Antibiot. 33, 915 (1980); N. D. Jones et al., ibid. 35, 420 (1982). Synthesis of tylonolide, the aglycone: S. Masamune et al., J. Am. Chem. Soc. 98, 7874 (1976); K. Tatsuta et al., Tetrahedron Letters 22, 3997 (1981). Relationship of ribosomal binding and antibacterial properties: J. W. Corcoran et al., J. Antibiot. 30, 1012 (1977). Biosynthesis studies: E. T. Seno et al., Antimicrob. Ag. Chemother. 11, 455 (1977); S. Omura et al., J. Antibiot. 31, 254 (1978).
Properties: Crystals from water, mp 128-132°. [a]D25 -46° (c = 2 in methanol). uv max: 282 nm (E1%1cm 245). Soly in water at 25°: 5 mg/ml. Sol in lower alcohols, esters and ketones, in chlorinated hydrocarbons, benzene, ether. Solns are stable at pH 4-9; at pH <4 another active compd, desmycosin is formed.
Melting point: mp 128-132°
Optical Rotation: [a]D25 -46° (c = 2 in methanol)
Absorption maximum: uv max: 282 nm (E1%1cm 245)

Derivative Type: Hydrochloride
Molecular Formula: C46H77NO17.HCl
Molecular Weight: 952.57.
Percent Composition: C 58.00%, H 8.25%, N 1.47%, O 28.55%, Cl 3.72%
Properties: Crystals from ethanol + ether, mp 141-145°.
Melting point: mp 141-145°

Tylosin is both a central nervous system stimulant and an antibiotic.

CAUTION: May be habit forming

Therap-Cat-Vet: Antibiotic.

Also, I hear, but haven't confirmed that when you bump this you want to get the beef flavor and stay away from the fish, the fish seems to burn the nostrils and not last quite as long.
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Old 2008-06-02, 01:28
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Hey all, I don't know if this has been posted here or not but there is a new thing going around my town at least called angel eyes. Here is a quote from another forum.


You only get the negative sides if you do too much just like with coke.

Merck Index has this to say...



Also, I hear, but haven't confirmed that when you bump this you want to get the beef flavor and stay away from the fish, the fish seems to burn the nostrils and not last quite as long.

....wow...you don't say...that's very interesting...hmm
 #27 
Old 2008-06-02, 01:46
tribulus tribulus is offline
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Yeah the beef is something like 10x more potent than coke!
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Old 2008-06-02, 01:48
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Oh, I almost forgot petco is having a huge sale of this shit online right now!
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Old 2008-06-02, 01:53
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okay what the fuck you HAVE to be joking me

http://shopping.msn.com/results/shp/?text=angel's+eyes,scid=14,SortBy=POP,Order=D&edt=1%22

THAT STUFF?!

will get me

COKE HIGH?!
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Old 2008-06-02, 02:30
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Also, I hear, but haven't confirmed that when you bump this you want to get the beef flavor and stay away from the fish, the fish seems to burn the nostrils and not last quite as long.

And on this note, the thread takes a turn for the hilarious.
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Old 2008-06-02, 02:48
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I was smokin some tylosin rocks the other day in my kitchen and my roommate asked if I was making beef for dinner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cocaine_analogues
 
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