I can't get spore needles. Just too much hassle. But I have access to lots of subs. Is there any way I can grow mushrooms from subs?

What are subs?

But, yes living mushrooms can be used to grow more mushrooms.

I think by subs he means substrate used already to grow shrooms, and the answer is yes.

Wait wait wait wait wait.

Trying to grow like that is NOT the best method. Sterilization is MUCH harder to maintain when inoculating with pieces of mushrooms.


IF you can, get some agar media and some of those dishes. Inoculate the agar with a piece of a mushroom and that will even give you a single strain mushroom. Meaning that all mushrooms made from that agar will be about the exact same as the one you use to inoculate, so make sure it's a fast growing BIG mushroom.

Once the agar is fully colonized you can use that to inoculate jars.

EDIT: If you have any fresh caps, just make a spore print.

So you're trying to grow Panaeolus Subbalteatus from a live tissue transfer? Do you realize just how hard that's going to be? You're going to need agar and you're going to have to jump in and use whole grains and bulk techniques. Long story short: you will almost inevitably fail if you try to grow a Panaeolus when you still have to ask these questions.

Stop being cheap and get a syringe or a print of a Cubensis. That's the only species I would reccomend for beginners.

He's in Australia, so by 'subs' he probably means psilocybe subaeruginosa, not panaeolus subbalteatus. P. subaeruginosa are also difficult to cultivate, though. Adding spores to an outdoor woodchip patch may be your best bet.